grillmaster
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reason im doing this is that unicrons durability obviously cant be any less than his kinetic energy travelling at these speeds, cause at this size if it were unicron would literally rip himself apart at super speed
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grillmaster
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i was thinking of trying to calc unicrons attack on cybertron but i think finding his durability will be good enough for his AP, since they should be around the same level (unicron can even seemingly damage himself, as we see when he rips his own leg off as the matrix destroys him, albeit this is presumably super close)
never the less thats pretty damn good for 86 movie unicron
but now the true horror begins
because other unicrons get a hell of a lot bigger than this
never the less thats pretty damn good for 86 movie unicron
but now the true horror begins
because other unicrons get a hell of a lot bigger than this
grillmaster
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This will be unfathomably cursed
Marvel G1 US Unicron = "size of Saturn"
so 95.16x earths mass
Speed 1: 2,231.9 kilometers/second
KE: 1.415553535767137832517621898169685433343e+39 J (338,325 Yottatons)
Speed 2: 130,044.222333 kilometers/second
KE: 5.61113745491266055257975885724855442455377e+42 (1,341,094,037.9 Yottatons = 1.34 Billion Yottatons)
Marvel G1 UK Unicron = "Cybertron= bigger than any planet in your miniscule solar system!"
317.907x earths mass at minimum
Speed 1: 2,231.9 kilometers/second
KE: 4.729028771491419576735809423932641730326e+39 (1,130,265 Yottatons)
Speed 2: 130,044.222333 kilometers/second
KE: 1.8745479979812097291813507766197101633528955e+43 (4,480,277,241 Yottatons = 4.48 Billion Yottatons)
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grillmaster
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the world is lost and damned
the world is lost and damned
the world is lost and damned
the world is lost and damned
the world is lost and damned
grillmaster
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grillmaster
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i also did unicrons KE above which was funny
grillmaster
Paramount
funny as hell because it took me forever to remember that galvatron II survives getting smacked by unicron
literally swatted out of the air like a gnat and he LIVES
Thirteen prime
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this is probably the level of hypernova, since the collapse of stars and the appearance of black holes happens with a stellar mass whose mass is 10-20 times greater than the sun, although this is not an ordinary black hole, but still.
Thirteen prime
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this possibly means that they not only survived the collapse of stars, its enormous temperature and pressure, but also the temperature of the singularity itself, which is only a fraction above absolute zero, while this singularity creates holes in reality, distorting space and time, so resistance to all this and more.
grillmaster
Paramount
a hypernova is 100 times stronger than a supernova (thus 100 Foe) yeah
grillmaster
Paramount
Quick calc based on part of Spotlight: Galvatron from IDW
idk how else to link it but in the link Galvatron survives being hit by enough power to "pulverize whole comets"
From what i could find an average comet is apparently around 25 cubic kilometers in volume
pulverization is 214
5,350,000,000,000,000,000 Joules
1,278.6806883 Megatons (1.278 Gigatons)
as a high end, from what ive found the largest comet we know of is 50 times larger than the average, and weighs 100,000 times as much
i find nothing about volume so i tried to calculate it myself from its 80 mile diameter
assuming a sphere shape cause idfk its a rock
note this isnt exact cause this is an extreme high end I think
2,144,660 cubic miles, or 8.9393328e+21 cubic centimeters
1.9130172e+24 Joules
457,222,084.13 Megatons (457.2 Teratons)
idk how else to link it but in the link Galvatron survives being hit by enough power to "pulverize whole comets"
From what i could find an average comet is apparently around 25 cubic kilometers in volume
pulverization is 214
5,350,000,000,000,000,000 Joules
1,278.6806883 Megatons (1.278 Gigatons)
as a high end, from what ive found the largest comet we know of is 50 times larger than the average, and weighs 100,000 times as much
i find nothing about volume so i tried to calculate it myself from its 80 mile diameter
assuming a sphere shape cause idfk its a rock
note this isnt exact cause this is an extreme high end I think
2,144,660 cubic miles, or 8.9393328e+21 cubic centimeters
1.9130172e+24 Joules
457,222,084.13 Megatons (457.2 Teratons)
grillmaster
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Thirteen prime
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I don’t know, to be honest, about the upper limit, I think it’s reasonable to take the minimum or average value.
grillmaster
Paramount
yeah definitely, i just wanted to do that last one cause i was curious
if you wanna wank you can apply it though i guess, since they would certainly need firepower to destroy comets that are larger than average
grillmaster
Paramount
though i doubt the huge comet was discovered when furman was writing (im pretty sure it wasnt)
but hey if you want to account for gigantic objects in space then yeah, but its an obvious high end
but hey if you want to account for gigantic objects in space then yeah, but its an obvious high end
grillmaster
Paramount
Generation 2: Decepticon Warworld
In Generation 2, we see the gigantic Decepticon Warworld, an immense warship of horrific firepower.
In the actual main comic unfortunately, we do not get any reference for the Warworld's size
in the Fleetway comics, however, we do get a shot of the Warworld directly attacking Earth, which I've decided to use cause i have no other reference frankly other than that its "probably really big"
The Warworld is thus somewhere over 925 kilometers (I've previously gotten up to 968 kilometers in diameter, so there's a range, this is rough)
The Warworld's blast creates an explosion over 180 kilometers in diameter, which is INSANE, but if i remember there isnt a huge hole blown in the ground at the site when we see later on, although i dont remember exactly so Prime may have landed elsewhere
nevertheless, this fortress is massive, and it should scale to the Twilight, speaking of which, I'm working on a calc for that too
In Generation 2, we see the gigantic Decepticon Warworld, an immense warship of horrific firepower.
In the actual main comic unfortunately, we do not get any reference for the Warworld's size
in the Fleetway comics, however, we do get a shot of the Warworld directly attacking Earth, which I've decided to use cause i have no other reference frankly other than that its "probably really big"
The Warworld is thus somewhere over 925 kilometers (I've previously gotten up to 968 kilometers in diameter, so there's a range, this is rough)
The Warworld's blast creates an explosion over 180 kilometers in diameter, which is INSANE, but if i remember there isnt a huge hole blown in the ground at the site when we see later on, although i dont remember exactly so Prime may have landed elsewhere
nevertheless, this fortress is massive, and it should scale to the Twilight, speaking of which, I'm working on a calc for that too
Thirteen prime
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Thirteen prime
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Trypticon fell from orbit to the surface of Cybertron as a meteorite at a speed of approximately 11.2 to 72 km/s.
he is approximately 915 feet or 278.892 meters tall.
Now about its weight, since it's made of, say, stainless steel, which is 7.13636364 times denser than leather, I'm taking the example of a Tyrannosaurus rex, so its weight would be approximately 24,777,240 tons, unless I screwed up the GGE again. will be approximately 10-odd gigatons of TNT equivalent.
he is approximately 915 feet or 278.892 meters tall.
Now about its weight, since it's made of, say, stainless steel, which is 7.13636364 times denser than leather, I'm taking the example of a Tyrannosaurus rex, so its weight would be approximately 24,777,240 tons, unless I screwed up the GGE again. will be approximately 10-odd gigatons of TNT equivalent.
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Thirteen prime
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13:30|Omega Prime and Gigatron fought in the core of the earth, the temperature on the surface of the solid core of the Earth supposedly reaches 6230±500 K (5960±500 °C), in the center of the core the density can be about 12.5 t/m³, pressure up to 3 .7 million atm (375 GPa).
As I remember in the calculations about Kong it reached several hundred petatons of TNT, but I don’t know how to calculate it.
As I remember in the calculations about Kong it reached several hundred petatons of TNT, but I don’t know how to calculate it.
grillmaster
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This is workable, but also doesnt account for the fact that trypticon isnt just a tyrannosaurus, hes got gigantic buff arms which should add a lot to his weight