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Transformers feats/discussion

OtherGalaxy

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Was just looking at some random AVP bits and
This is just another of many confirmations that literally everything has ever happened somewhere in transformers. "Space is infinite" is not how it's usually framed, but is an interesting distinction.

HOWEVER

ANDROMEDA: But we're talking about the Beast Wars of Primax 496.22 Alpha.ROOK: The viewers don't care about your numbers, Romy. They want to be connected to the Great Cosmic Tree, they want to FEEL Primus flow through them.

GREAT COSMIC TREE???

I swear to God if this was Sorenson sneaking in Tree of Life references in the most obscure material imaginable again....
 

OtherGalaxy

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Some interesting stuff regarding the Shattered Glass multiverse from tfcc story "Coalescence"

This is a parallel Bayformers The Fallen who ends up in the SG multiverse before it was actually revealed in Epilogue II
What's interesting is the 13 don't know about this multiverse, we know this from Vector Prime thinking negative universes are extremely rare but also because The Fallen right here is directly saying these are "lost universes"

Basically the 13 had no idea any of this was out here. the Transtech of this multiverse also didn't know, because this Multiverse had a Shroud placed on it that was removed when Nexus Shrouded the main multiverse. It's all very odd and mysterious, it seems like the TFCC writers were seeding a storyline involve The Fallen secretly trying to conquer the Shattered Glass multiverse before FunPub lost the license. And this was published well after the Shroud, and this version of the Fallen is confirmed to be able to travel through universes/multiverses as he wishes. Which just hammers home the Shroud can't affect both main multiverses at once.


Whatever Unicron he encounters back in the main multiverse is also still powerful enough to terrify him, despite this Fallen maintaining his multiversal abilities.

As much as the Shroud was a measure to clean up for FunPub losing the license, it strongly seems like TFCC's writers had big plans for it going forward, especially with the SG Multiverse and The Fallen. Really disappointed it didn't play out. Maybe someday.

The Fallen is asserted to be the source of all entropy in the multiverse. Kinda makes sense as Unicron once said entropy was a pale imitation of himself. But lorewise it's fascinating that the entropy is the natural order, since order is Primus' domain. Makes sense why Primus created him for this task. Also similar I guess to Vector Prime being connected to all time throughout the multiverse maybe? This also makes The Fallen almost certainly the strongest of the 13 aside from Prima, and Nexus with Prima's sword+Terminus Blade.
 

Thirteen prime

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Before we discuss their meetings, we need to discuss something Vector Primes says about Unicron.
Vector prime declares that if someone takes the form and name of the Unicron, he can attract unicron, and in the worst case it can absorb his version that is not related to multi singularity.
 
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OtherGalaxy

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^same writer who did that as Singularity Ablyss. The Matrix' realm can be considered synonymous with the Tree of Life, at least on some level. They are both part of the afterlife beyond reality
 

OtherGalaxy

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I never got why TF fans were so mad about the multiversal singularities. They exist beyond time and space. Linear rules of time and history don't apply to them, that's why they have different histories in different universes. It's complex...but only as complex as you make it. Those editors, while I appreciate how dedicated and in-depth tfwiki's staff are, are just looking too linearly at something that can never fit into that framework.
 

Thirteen prime

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Japanese transformers are too strong.
With the help of Angolmois energy you can create an illusion, manipulate reality, this mystical energy has limitless possibilities of use, with its help you can also raise islands (a continent, more like).
 

Thirteen prime

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To be honest, I don’t understand whether Forest Lee is answering questions here or that there are several interesting points here.
 

Thirteen prime

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one of the japanese BW manga also says it has the power to create universes, I posted the page a page or two back
By the way how powerful are auto avatar Alternity (this includes Megatron) I know they have moon cutting feats but is there anything beyond that or can they be compared to protectors?
 

OtherGalaxy

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By the way how powerful are auto avatar Alternity (this includes Megatron) I know they have moon cutting feats but is there anything beyond that or can they be compared to protectors?
for the Avatars I am only aware of the moon cutting feat for raw power, though they have other hax and I know one of Bumblebee's avatars could alter the z-axis spacially of his enemies
 

Thirteen prime

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for the Avatars I am only aware of the moon cutting feat for raw power, though they have other hax and I know one of Bumblebee's avatars could alter the z-axis spacially of his enemies
I just found that auto avatars can create time loops and tunnels with hundreds of timelines (although this is a hack, but still).
 

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I find it really interesting Furman refers to both the movie and comic versions' respective "deaths", I guess this is more confirmation that 86 Unicron may still be part of the greater gestalt entity
 

Thirteen prime

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In fact, in Marvel comics, Cybertron is larger than any planet in the solar system.
I had no idea humans possessed self- destruction circuits. You learn some- thing new every day in this job! As I have said on previous occasions too numerous to mention, the cartoon series is littered with inaccuracies and blatant mistakes. Skyfire is indeed Jet- fire (puttup!) and Cybertron is larger than any planet in your miniscule solar system. For the story as it really is... read the comic!

IT TURNS IN TH
 

Thirteen prime

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To be honest, I just made some other explanation of the nature of Unicron, although these scans are already available.

In my opinion (which is not very) True Unicron is essentially the embodiment of infinite nothingness, he is a formless (that is, formless) endless emptiness, the heart and the totality of infinite nothingness, he is absent from all things and phenomena of existence, he is an essence that is above all things of existence and beyond which there is nothing (essentially like Yogiri).


As you all know, Unicron-level entities are essentially outside and not limited by the concepts of time, but Unicron can also literally create this very concept of time.
 
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