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...Are you sure it's unintelligible or is it just your incapacity to infer the implications of my observations? Nobody else seems to have a problem with doing it without having every little thing laid out to them, explicitly.
yes thats what it boils down to, without the unnecessary sarcastic exaggeration that you are making, yes
reasonings will be weak. especially in a semi dead thread. if you wont be taking attempts at starting somewhere, someone has to, and if u spend a good portion of ur energy slowing that down, without providing better avenues unprovoked then it'd be fair to characterize you as anti town / not interested in town gaining momentum in any direction, right or wrong.
Ratchet you will really write a fucking novel to justify *not* playing the game and then act completely belligerent for being considered as scum. It's annoying. You *know* better. None of this is instrumental or informative to the outside observer. What are you doing? By all means continue to deconstruct my case, I *am* piling it together out of stray thoughts I'm having so it's not exactly hard to poke holes in, but at the end of the day you're only doing a disservice to yourself.
i like this alot actually, thought process seems townie
there is no reason for the hostility between us. if u r town we are just looking for somewhere to start from in a semi dead thread rly
>I think
>I don't agree
>I assumed
>I think
Once I find a compelling reason to care even a little bit about any of the above, or understand why that should compass my thinking at all, I will let you be the first to know. Next.
Uh huh, which is why I've looked to not engage over extended period of times frequently over the course of the game, but had to, because I've had to explain the absolute pits like why a shark gif implies humour or whatever. Intellectually-dishonest. I haven't been seeking this shit, it has been flung at me instead, and the best you have is to observe the volume of interactions and interpose that *I* must be the one farming this?
No, that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that your "motive" angle doesn't really work because any perceived "lack of effort" does not carry to conception that I'm scum with it. Also, let me just point out how ironic it is for you to whine incessantly about being held to unfair standards over your Elden Ring mislynch, yet me not going full aggro on Day 1 means I haven't contributed anything meaningful to the game. Absurd.
I don't believe you've even begun to make a sincere attempt towards this.
I'm quite sure, yes. I'm also quite sure these "observations" are mostly flat and unsupported, which is precisely why I'm asking for the nitty gritty details - they simply don't exist.
I prefer "anti-nonsense", actually. Yours is not the only way to play town.
interactions between active players have to come at a certain point, regardless of alignment, however its much more likely for u to interact if you are both town. if one of u is scum they wud be content with the other one being quiet or just soft buddy/pocket, something gram could be accused of doing if we were to take his posts in negative light
I am not going to defend ultra's reasoning, but I added some of my own as to how you or gram can have a scum in you - that was ultra's point that he might have arrived to with different reason of his own.
Yes, I'm definitely not playing the game by responding to this. This is all part of it, Ultra. I really don't think dismantling the "case" that is supposed to be presenting me as scum is doing myself a disservice at all, quite the opposite actually.
It has nothing to do with being considered as scum, by the way. It has everything to do with you throwing out poorly-established statements like you did, and then try and defend them when we both know there is absolutely nothing behind the curtain here.
Oh, lucky me. I only had to repeat myself, in full, once to have my position noted. That's like, e times less than usual!
Ratchet, what game are we fucking playing?
I don't think it's honest of you to compare a case based on "You posted a gif" to "You look scummy based on your relation to other players in the game if those players are town". And I think it's inarguable you're seeking that interaction. Crazy thought, I know, but you're not actually obligated to talk to Ekko after you have addressed him a couple of times. You continued to engage with him, charitably, because you suspected him.
My evaluation of you is cumulative - it factors town and scum aspects of your play. Sorry to say that without engagement, the former is going to lean towards 0, and so I will default scum reading you.
I'm not asking you to go "full aggro". I'm barely even holding you to your own standards, frankly in a vaccuum you haven't contributed much aside from this recent lid blowing over pretty consequential behaviors.
Viewong posts in a negative light is only going to bias your perception anyway. I am sure if I had the inclination I could find any number of posts in this thread and ascribe a compelling scum motivation to them. Does that mean they're more likely to have come from scum? Of course not. The rest is just pra- babble.
Well of course Gram and I could have scum in there. I am uninformed, I don't know what his alignment is. My problem with this, and you do this a lot, is you grab two names or three names or four names and say "there is maybe scum in here" - yes, maybe so! We could even both be scum from everyone's perspective but his and mine, so it really doesn't mean anything at all. I could draw names from a hat and have similar results.
im tempted to just leave the thread until EoD actually
ws folks arent interested in plurality at all
do you expect players to be right from the get go? specially if u town read ultra u can see he is at least trying to start somewhere there is no reason for ur posts being this unhelpful
no matter. I'm once again forced to spend time on active players. its a shitty habit we need to get rid of. there is rly none else to talk to anyway
The observation that you have spent most of your real estate either bickering with Ekko or aggressively defending your non-contributions is supported, I don't really feel the need to pull up quotes or anything at this point.
The disservice is that you're not applying 10% of the effort here in any other facet of the game so far, which would be much more instrumental than whatever this is.
Well, certainly not one that requires me to care about any of those arrow points beyond how it helps me read you. Look - lean town. It really is that easy.
Well, for one, it serves as a defence before I invariably get accused of "ducking dialogue" or whatever stupid idea comes up next. You have, again, failed to establish exactly how my relation towards Flower and Ekko makes me appear scummy in the event that they are both town, aside from being a little wrong on Ekko (I did say "conflicted") and... being right on Flower(?) - I think I've made this point several times over by now.
Oh no, anything but default scum reading me. No engagement- really? Even you don't believe the hogwash you're coming out with now.
There is no "lid blowing". I am perfectly calm. Tired, maybe, but calm. I'm not emotionally invested in this discussion. In fact, I'd wager you are more so than I.
I provided my reason from my PoV. I am fully aware you can both be town too and I don't intend on focusing on active players until I am satisfied with my current status on the less active ones, but I see zero issue with raising my concerns or bringing my reasonings forward. if its wrong its wrong. Again my issue is toward your destructive rather than constructive attitude towards town's momentum, and its not necessarily scummy but its not really townie either.
if your read of gram is around null area these posts don't make sense even more
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