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[Alco]

Now to give credit to Poyser his position on me has been very consistent with his worldview that he is purporting to have. His suspicion on me isn't actually bad, and I'd be lying if I said it was, because if he's town he obviously sees me setting him up after Tweet which *should* ring some alarm bells. My response is obviously that I don't have scum TMI and can only evaluate based on what I see, but he is uniquely positioned here to gather impressions like this.

Lol the bolded are Poyser’s exact words

 

[Emil]

I’m sorry but Ekko your arrogance (or confidence w/e) is so extremely misplaced here. You barge in yesterday 1 hour begrote deadline demanding a case while bekend certain Tweet would flip town and now You’re gonna hindsight hero again and do your thing where you accuse everyone at least once so you’re bound to be wright.

it comes across as very disingenuous

do u have issue with the people i sus? instead of being vague how about addressing them 1 by 1? whose "everyone" i accused at least once and why do u agree/disagree with them being town/scum

Let me get this straight. Its dumb to question the validity of the Dodd kill as obvious, but you're using the same kill to inform your suspicions of the most active players, even though that carries the implicit assumption that Dodd is not a standard kill. Woof.

i just said... rookies
they took the obvious safe kill
they rly want that janitor claim and dont wanna risk the shot being wasted

 

[TAT]

My only issue with Poyser right now is his interactions with Ekko and the constant town reading him and Lethal had with each other since Day 1, which seems odd to me but maybe I'm over thinking it.

I don't think it's odd at all

I also think he's been giving Town reads super easily

 

[Ultra]

I’m sorry but Ekko your arrogance (or confidence w/e) is so extremely misplaced here. You barge in yesterday 1 hour begrote deadline demanding a case while bekend certain Tweet would flip town and now You’re gonna hindsight hero again and do your thing where you accuse everyone at least once so you’re bound to be wright.

it comes across as very disingenuous

I was gonna say Odo (Gramma), but Ekko’s coming in a close second and gaining with his unwarranted cockiness

Points to anyone who can spot the problem with these posts.

 

[xenos5]

ok so im sick idk how much patience i will yave to catch up

i did read snippets so correct me if im wrong but someone was outed as indie iirc which was xenos, wasn't there consensus the slot should be gotten rid of via vig or whatever? what happened to that?

I got revealed as part of a SK duo with Flower. And I agreed to only whack targets of town's choosing in exchange for my continued survival. And I abstained from using a kill last Night Phase because town couldn't agree on how to use me.

 

[Emil]

> Doddsy confident Tweet wasn't lying about his role (stump) and his town
> Doddsy gets killed and janitored by mafia
> Doddsy supported vigging/shooting Xenos

Not gonna bother because lazy but Hans also reading CP as scum like I did based off yesterday and day 1 doesn't hurt and he was suspicious about Alco but that one I'm less certain about.

Now who were the people Tweet felt strongly about?

Poyser based off his suspicions with Lethal's last town reads,

One of Hans reads. He can confirm if I'm misinterpreting him from yesterday though or not.

doddsy might have been cop?

 

[Ratchet]

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I'm not going to get into a tete-a-tete where we just repeat the same points. I'm giving you due consideration, and I'm trying to be fair, but "I don't gain from this as scum" isn't a very compelling argument to me when you already dug a hole by town reading tweet for silly reasons. That's a sticking point, you're not going to convince me to change that by telling me it's bad, because my response is simply "disagree".

For me to be scum you have to stick a lot of square pegs into round holes to make it make sense

I don't think this is remotely true and I don't think you believe you're this easy to find as town here either.

 

[Poyser]

being aggressive isnt scummy. being aggressive for no reason is. did u have a reason to be aggressive? have u never seen a player be inactive and busy and ask for a case on the main wagon? that aggression was FORCED ASFK

they kill u and ultra because if u r town this is the perfect time to do it. no sane townie will protect u n1. why not kill u? arent u carrying the game?

Ok you’re obviously a fucking idiot and I’m not gonna waste my time lmao

WHY WOULD THEY KILL ME

literally why?????

I was the second largest wagon yesterday, which is only gonna get stronger after I’ve pushed a mislynch lmao. Killing me would be fucking stupid and you obviously know that

the aggression came because I thought you were being obnoxious as fuck and I’d already spent the day dealing with the king of obnoxious BPD and I had zero patience for your shite with 30 minutes til deadline

if anything was forced, it was you telling me my case is good but still refusing to vote because you want to “see how tweet responds” despite being told countless times that we had 30 minutes until deadline lmao. Obviously the chance of him answering was very slim, so it was all for show

also I like how you completely ignored the fact that you just called the case on tweet forced after saying it was good yesterday did you forget you said it?

 

[Ratchet]

Lol the bolded are Poyser’s exact words

Is there a point being made here?

 

[Poyser]

thought you gave T-Pein too easy a town read early

and i think the claim of TMI was a reach

 

[TAT]

yeah it seems like this aggression is for show, putting it on a little too thick

unvote vote Poyser

 

[Emil]

More consistent? Like just think about it for 5 seconds. Obviously if I’m mafia I know tweet is town, so that means I would have made an active decision to defend him against pressure and try to stop the wagon forming on him. It then means I made another active decision to completely abandon that play, change completely and start pushing him for a lynch strongly. Again, knowing that he’s town. Why? Is your best argument really that I did it for WIFOM? That’s a pretty terrible argument

Like flipping my read and pushing strongly means I’ve made the decision to purposely dirty myself, because not only is it going to look awkward that I’ve flipped, but I’m then strongly pushing someone that I know is gonna flip town and make me look even worse. And to put it over the edge, it was completely unneeded. Ultra was already pushing tweet hard, so there wasn’t any need at all to dirty myself. Makes much more sense than to just keep defending him, push somewhere else or take a step back and let ultra push his thing through.

again I just don’t see you believing this shit as town, because the FAR more likely explanation is that I don’t know what tweets alignment is and changed my mind after reading his ISO as I said. For me to be scum you have to stick a lot of square pegs into round holes to make it make sense

tweet's iso without context doesnt look scummy. tweet's tone doesn't look scummy. if u town read him before idk why it changed

who was wagon at the time? maybe u r defending a scummate by going tweet's direction after town reading him

at least u gave me a case

half of these sheep on the wagon dont foken have a reason and unable to give me a case for who they r voting for

mindless and hopeless

 

[Poyser]

Points to anyone who can spot the problem with these posts.

The top part is approached from a place where Ekko is town is what I’m guessing you’re talking about

 

[Emil]

I’m waiting for tpein, I also am not sure if I most wanna push you or ratchet yet

whats the corelation between me ratchet and tpein? why does waiting on tpein stops u from pushing us? u just told me tpein is town earlier. why bother waiting??

 

[Poyser]

I'm not going to get into a tete-a-tete where we just repeat the same points. I'm giving you due consideration, and I'm trying to be fair, but "I don't gain from this as scum" isn't a very compelling argument to me when you already dug a hole by town reading tweet for silly reasons. That's a sticking point, you're not going to convince me to change that by telling me it's bad, because my response is simply "disagree".
I don't think this is remotely true and I don't think you believe you're this easy to find as town here either.

I didn’t dig myself into a hole at all lmao you’re talking utter shite

 

[Alco]

Why Gram before you've even received results on him? What actually is the case here, because it is becoming a very easy, safe position to hold. I want your read on this Alco, show me the thought process please.

His play yesterday was very tame. Last game we played he gave Tpein a very early town read and This game he’s scum reading him. I see no real difference between Pein This game and last so I wanted to know what the difference is. He ignored my question completely. There’s a complete lack of involvement and town odo usually does at least some effort to lead the conversation

 

[Poyser]

tweet's iso without context doesnt look scummy. tweet's tone doesn't look scummy. if u town read him before idk why it changed

who was wagon at the time? maybe u r defending a scummate by going tweet's direction after town reading him

at least u gave me a case

half of these sheep on the wagon dont foken have a reason and unable to give me a case for who they r voting for

mindless and hopeless

Aurelian was being pushed at the time

 

[Poyser]

whats the corelation between me ratchet and tpein? why does waiting on tpein stops u from pushing us? u just told me tpein is town earlier. why bother waiting??

He should have something for us! And I wanted to interact with you and Ratchet before deciding where to push as you’re my top susses

 

[Ultra]

The top part is approached from a place where Ekko is town is what I’m guessing you’re talking about

Yes.

Also, this is my observation of Ekko's town meta

I don't remember where I said this, possibly in discord, but after a game this was word for word my critique of Ekko's play, so I know this is not conflation on Alco's part.

 

[Emil]

Points to anyone who can spot the problem with these posts.

the first paragraph itself doesnt add up

calls me doing my thing where i accuse everyone (he has only seen me do this as town), and the word "doing my thing" implies doing the usual stuff i do - i have only been town or indie here.. 1 game subbed and mafia for 1 day

then calls it disingenuous in the same sentence when it was implied that he is addressing my town meta