Game Ranked EastEnders Mafia

[Rugrat]

IF LETHAL IS TOWN AND WE MISLYNCH AT ANY POINT WITH PHENOM ALIVE THE GAME IS OVER!!!!

“but but we should lynch my preferred scum read”

Yeah find a fucking team with your scum read that doesn’t include Phenom

 

[PHEN0M]

Double voters are much more problematic for town than scum

Explain your hypothesis. I don’t know this to be true.

 

[Rugrat]

I’m sorry, but it’s frankly astounding that nobody wants to lynch Phenom. No way he flips town lolol

vote Phenom

 

[Imposter]

N2 didnt call for anything

Bpd said he cant arson anymore and also if he was going to be a competent arsonist he would have primed Xenos already, oh well

N2 seemed a prime time to watch T-Pein, no?

 

[The X]

Town

Ultra
Retro
Dalton
Alco
CraigPelton
Lethal
Black Pegged Dragon
Imposter

PoE:

Phenom
Grammaton
Ratchet
Rugrat
One Last Username
TAT
Goth Boy

Is what I'm working with here for reference. Maybe one misclear in the town list at best. Only two if I can see a CP/Imp tinfoil scum world. Woof.

I don't think Goth/OLU are *both* scum. Would be rather convenient. They've been ragged on a ton both by the players in this list and in general. Fuzzier when you factor in their bussing potential too. Likely one is though. Surmising their alignment from play is mostly not likely to yield good results so best I can do is use how others have treated them lol.

Rugrat is kind of a hard player for me to read. Him and Ratchet aren't aligned. Anything else is somewhat fair game.

I think I've found myself too easily deferring to Ratchet/Grandma's respective capacities as scum this game and not just realizing neither are super townie. Have a bit more consideration here that I'll lay out later but I think both are on the table.

TAT seems slightly townie in his exchange with BPD but has jackshit to verify his claim and his gameplay has been preeeerttyy bad. Woof.

Why is Lethal on your town reads?

 

[Rugrat]

Explain your hypothesis. I don’t know this to be true.

Scum have the opportunity to quick hammer with a double voter alive

 

[xenos5]

Hes not scummy he is scum

vote Xenos

not entertaining anything else unless it's iron clad (shout out to Big Show)

If we lose because we lynched the SK then we as town weren't good enough to win

I'll take my responsibility not being here at certain times to push Xenos hard enough, the rest of you should take responsibility as well

If you are town this just sounds like gamethrowing at this point.

You know I won’t die to a lynch. You know I don’t count towards scum team reaching vote parity towards town. You know you guys haven’t nailed a single member of the scum team at this point so you can’t afford a no lynch.

I don’t see you as the type of player to gamethrow. So if you’re scum I see this as you trying to make town waste more time so you can reach vote parity without losing a single scummate.

 

[Ultra]

So you think me and Ratchet aren’t aligned, as well as GothBoy OLU not aligned.

assuming one scum of each pair of your second PoE list, then that fits Phenom in with a team of five pretty neatly.

again, for those people who think “Rugrat is just scum wanting the double voter out”, find me a scum team that doesn’t include Phenom. Bare in mind, at any point if we mislynch with him and Lethal alive it is game over.

I do see your point, but again, Phenom is categorically in the PoE, so I feel that presenting it that way is a bit circular. If we mislynch Phenom we're already statistically donezo regardless. If we arrived at this point D2 or D3 I'd say why not. Here I would prioritize maxing out chances of hitting scum first and foremost. This may sound like I'm over explaining for that slot, but there's a couple reasons I'm being cautionary. Including but not limited to him increasing our odds of surviving this corner we're obviously in if town, and the fact that I saw Ratchet suddenly attempt to direct an SK that way. Woof.

 

[TAT]

N2 seemed a prime time to watch T-Pein, no?

How so

 

[The X]

I blocked Xenos

I had a jailkeep shot

What does your jail keep so? I have seen different versions of this ability in games.

 

[The X]

How else do you explain only scum getting a kill during the night?

I don’t think scum and BPD both shot Ekko.

Though I guess we would need @Black Pegged Dragon to confirm that.

I town read Ekko the whole game.

 

[TAT]

If you are town this just sounds like gamethrowing at this point.

You know I won’t die to a lynch. You know I don’t count towards scum team reaching vote parity towards town. You know you guys haven’t nailed a single member of the scum team at this point so you can’t afford a no lynch.

I don’t see you as the type of player to gamethrow. So if you’re scum I see this as you trying to make town waste more time so you can reach vote parity without losing a single scummate.

Ok bro

 

[Imposter]

If that was directed at me, so you'd watch him for shenanigans and give him a watcher shot from your limited shots

 

[Rugrat]

I do see your point, but again, Phenom is categorically in the PoE, so I feel that presenting it that way is a bit circular. If we mislynch Phenom we're already statistically donezo regardless. If we arrived at this point D2 or D3 I'd say why not. Here I would prioritize maxing out chances of hitting scum first and foremost. This may sound like I'm over explaining for that slot, but there's a couple reasons I'm being cautionary. Including but not limited to him increasing our odds of surviving this corner we're obviously in if town, and the fact that I saw Ratchet suddenly attempt to direct an SK that way. Woof.

It isn’t game over if we lynch Phenom, we have a small margin for error which we have some level of hope of with a co-operative SK as opposed to it being literally gg if he’s scum.

 

[TAT]

Didnt CP cop Ekko

If Mafia win over Town it will simply because they were paying attention whilst Town weren't

 

[Ultra]

Like if your argument is that the game is over if he's scum and we mislynch, the game is 95% over if we mislynch him. So that's why it's not a terribly compelling selling point. Woof.

 

[Rugrat]

I do see your point, but again, Phenom is categorically in the PoE, so I feel that presenting it that way is a bit circular. If we mislynch Phenom we're already statistically donezo regardless. If we arrived at this point D2 or D3 I'd say why not. Here I would prioritize maxing out chances of hitting scum first and foremost. This may sound like I'm over explaining for that slot, but there's a couple reasons I'm being cautionary. Including but not limited to him increasing our odds of surviving this corner we're obviously in if town, and the fact that I saw Ratchet suddenly attempt to direct an SK that way. Woof.

I suggested lynching him last night, but everyone ignored me (people even have the audacity to call me scum for it)

 

[Rugrat]

Like if your argument is that the game is over if he's scum and we mislynch, the game is 95% over if we mislynch him. So that's why it's not a terribly compelling selling point. Woof.

We’re obviously in a difficult position that’s axiomatic, it’s whether you want to gamble the game on someone who is crazy high on PoE being town and I don’t. I also think he’s scum anyway for those same people who want to say “Rugrat’s just doing this to duck responsibility”

 

[TAT]

We have 17 players left, getting rid of the DV isnt urgent but I agree with Rugrat's overall message

 

[Ultra]

Why is Lethal on your town reads?

I mean, unless this is his breakout game, he just sounds pretty townie even without factoring in meta. He's also claimed hated, which isn't impossible if scum but does seem like a questionable passive. Woof.