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Game Unranked Archived Fairy Tail Mafia - The Dawn of Fiore [Main Game Thread] (Game Ended - Zeref Dragneel and Acnologia have won the game)

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^Case in point - he earlier conceded the TMI angle as something anyone with flavour knowledge could deduce, now that the conversation has shifted he moves back to it, presumably hoping no one will read the interaction in isolation.
Not really, I didn't concede it. I just gave you the benefit of doubt with *, being you also included Zeref and maybe Acnologia. Even that last part is showing you don't have a concrete role write up where you know the EXACT names of the people who might hunt you. You are just using the flavor to cover your tracks.
 
Why is it less likely a potential town bus drive move “given the choice of targets”? Meaning you think both seemed very town-like based off d1 play, thus a weird choice?
As town busdrive, you either busdrive yourself with a scum read, or use it to protect a strong town read with a scum one. Aurelian wasn't a strong town read for anyone, especially not with his end of day, and neither was Prof, and given that neither of them self-busdrove it would have to come from someone else. Not impossible, to be sure, but all the same.
 
He could claim or hint it from D2. He did not do that. In fact, his post was "I have reason to believe I was shot last night, and I have further reason to believe it was either August, Irene, Mard Geer or Zeref who did so. Outside chance of Acnologia, too, but Zeref appears to be an Indie that is filling the role I'd expect Acnologia to fill." That is way too much TMI for a survivor role.
@Ratchet have you stated your actual wincon yet?
 
Not really, I didn't concede it. I just gave you the benefit of doubt with *, being you also included Zeref and maybe Acnologia. Even that last part is showing you don't have a concrete role write up where you know the EXACT names of the people who might hunt you. You are just using the flavor to cover your tracks.
Mhmm. Which you seem to have forgotten ties back to the OP listing out powerlevels for classes - Zeref and Acnologia would both be near the top if not at the top due to their respective strength. What tracks am I covering? You're making a lot of accusations, but most of it is rather vapid.
 
As town busdrive, you either busdrive yourself with a scum read, or use it to protect a strong town read with a scum one. Aurelian wasn't a strong town read for anyone, especially not with his end of day, and neither was Prof, and given that neither of them self-busdrove it would have to come from someone else. Not impossible, to be sure, but all the same.
I honestly thought Aurelian seemed to appear pretty town-like mid way through d1 but that could have just been my opinion tbf
 
Mhmm. Which you seem to have forgotten ties back to the OP listing out powerlevels for classes - Zeref and Acnologia would both be near the top if not at the top due to their respective strength. What tracks am I covering? You're making a lot of accusations, but most of it is rather vapid.
"Zeref and maybe Acnologia" suggests you don't have names of who might hunt you and you are just throwing random games that are powerful from the flavor.
 
I honestly thought Aurelian seemed to appear pretty town-like mid way through d1 but that could have just been my opinion tbf
Okay, but unless you're claiming town busdrive, I don't recall seeing anyone read him town enough to use a busdrive as pseudo protection. It's not impossible, but I would consider it harder to reconcile.
 
Claiming BP in D2 when there was no pressure whatsoever was and is VERY convenient. If the vig questioned Ratchet about it, he could have claimed to be the survivor. Neither mafia team would have questioned Ratchet for dodging a kill, so for Ratchet to come out with the reveal would not be necessary.

This is benefitting only Ratchet.
 
"Zeref and maybe Acnologia" suggests you don't have names of who might hunt you and you are just throwing random games that are powerful from the flavor.
You have read the OP, yes? Of course you have, you're arguing for the sake of arguing - I gave names of characters that would all be ranked highly as explanations for kills that worked and affected my role as a result. That's exactly the point.
 
I'll wait for you to catch up. I'll note that you are currently talking to a player in Kobe who is probably scum, so if you're not scum with him, you should ensure your view isn't polluted as a result.
I do think you're probably indie not wolf. Just curious about your wincon. Think Kobe is probably wolf here.
 
You have read the OP, yes? Of course you have, you're arguing for the sake of arguing - I gave names of characters that would all be ranked highly as explanations for kills that worked and affected my role as a result. That's exactly the point.
There is nothing in OP that gives the names of the indies. Your Zeref and maybe Acnologia was revealed after the existence of Zeref and the fact that you included Acnologia as a maybe is telling us that you don't have a list that may target you whatsoever.
 
Claiming BP in D2 when there was no pressure whatsoever was and is VERY convenient. If the vig questioned Ratchet about it, he could have claimed to be the survivor. Neither mafia team would have questioned Ratchet for dodging a kill, so for Ratchet to come out with the reveal would not be necessary.

This is benefitting only Ratchet.
There isn't a point being made here either - you're just saying it's convenient because you want people to accept this at face value. If anything, claiming it deters the Vig from wasting more shots, and given that no Vig has claimed shooting me, looks like it really was scum.

I never once claimed my being shot at was crucial information, by the way. Just information.
 
honestly i didnt really read this thoroughly

u r 100% sure u landed ur target?
all i know is that prof did in fact use a preventive ability on xadlin np1
i feel as though its more townie than not that he targets a scummy player over a townie one with a rb
and we can rule out that hes aligned with purple for sure
So you’re claiming watcher correct?
 
There is nothing in OP that gives the names of the indies. Your Zeref and maybe Acnologia was revealed after the existence of Zeref and the fact that you included Acnologia as a maybe is telling us that you don't have a list that may target you whatsoever.
I've read the manga. Acnologia and Zeref are very prominent characters, particularly the latter. What the OP says is that high level roles affect kills differently, mostly implemented from night 3.
 
I feel like maybe there’s some truth Prof’s claimed actions and is potentially just hostile indie. Looking back doesn’t seem like he has a lot scum equity with either faction?
 
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