you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVELI still don't understand how you can downplay The Demi-Fiend, let alone any SMT protagonist to perfectly frank.
SMTV explicitly starts and basically leads off the fact that most of the Demons we encounter? Are genuine GODS with all of their known feats available to them. In SMTIV: Apocalypse, you literally demonize YHWH and he ends up getting even STRONGER than he was beforehand despite being a Demon at that point.
The entire plot of SMTV is to literally put a new God on the Throne to make him a true Creator onpar with YHWH.
The entire plot of Nocturne is the fact that the Universe, the fucking Universe, was literally folded into a small ass Egg that's called the Conception with a fragment of YHWH in the center that in the canonical ending, The Demi-Fiend obliterates him from across the entire MULTIVERSE! Then kicked Lucifer's ass and is now a True Demon and he had to fight many Gods including Metatron himself.
Like unless these people never even looked at SMT, I don't know how you can even think it's "alot of saying, but no real feats". It really feels like people listened to IWD's Feats > Statements but they take it as the holy gospel and throw all sense and logic away from the fact that if a statement collaborates with the feat, it's accepted.
There're people who unironically believe in sub-bullet level Goku and wooden-door level Elric. This shit doesn't surprise me.you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVELha because “nukes were a threat” like you don’t see kagutsuchi maintain billions of universes in nocturne
well... what exactly is preventing Yhwach to use Am and have both opponents team cover in Ichibei ink erasing all they're powers? DB defenitly have nothing to counter concept manipulation
i'm not 100% sure Sm can't still came out, so let's also use the mausoleum of bones and remove them from existence
Also, just for the fun, Yhwach would let them erasing the team he is with hakai, only to have himself and everyone else on his team came out few second later without a single speck of dust on them
there are literal countless way Yhwach can use the numerous abilities his team has at its disposal to max effect to win this, including time travel and various bs stuff
But on a positive note: they're lucky prime Sk isn't here handling this, he could have make this much worse, like copy all they're powers and abilities (with a conbination of Tsukishima and pernida powers) and start slapping them across the muliverse like ultron with the watcher
you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVELha because “nukes were a threat” like you don’t see kagutsuchi maintain billions of universes in nocturne
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Universe 7 (Dragon Ball Super) and Sailor Moon verse vs HST, One Punch Man, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT verse
- Morals off, win via knockout. - No prep time and no interference. - Moro Saga Dragon Ball Super and current One Piece. - Composite One Punch Man (anime, manga and web novel). - EoS Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT and Sailor Moon. - Takes place on Earth. - Only the Sailor Moon verse has...forums.spacebattles.com
You forgot to include the dude's rebuttal to the DBS characters being far, far beyond Yhwach in speed and him going TA literally works instantly and shit.
well... what exactly is preventing Yhwach to use Am and have both opponents team cover in Ichibei ink erasing all they're powers? DB defenitly have nothing to counter concept manipulation
i'm not 100% sure Sm can't still came out, so let's also use the mausoleum of bones and remove them from existence
Also, just for the fun, Yhwach would let them erasing the team he is with hakai, only to have himself and everyone else on his team came out few second later without a single speck of dust on them
there are literal countless way Yhwach can use the numerous abilities his team has at its disposal to max effect to win this, including time travel and various bs stuff
But on a positive note: they're lucky prime Sk isn't here handling this, he could have make this much worse, like copy all they're powers and abilities (with a conbination of Tsukishima and pernida powers) and start slapping them across the muliverse like ultron with the watcher
Speed? Even if the opposing team had infinite speed it would mean absoluting nothing
It does not matter if by the time Yhwach has made a plan in his mind he has been hit a trilion time by a Db character, the Am make it complitly useless
he and his teammate could die (been erase by hakai even) a quadrilion times a second in this fight, and Yhwach would still be able to do whatever he what whenever he wants, because the Am is that stupid, and the opposition has nothing to stop him doing so
also, there is Barragan that can slow down time, and several way to reverse or time travel, there is literally and endless ammount of way to ignore the speed disadvangate
i don't think people understand the ammount of hax team 2 has at it's disposal, and Yhwach can use all of it in any way he what because the Am can basically allow to ignore any restriction that some broken abilities may have instory
an exaple: team 2 is splatter into pulp by a casual punch to the air by any fodder of team 1... then team 1 is tore apart by spatial erasing attack that just manifest on them from the future by Yhwach still a pulp!
This can happen!
also, Op: does Boruto count? if so, yhwach just make everyone on team 1 under Aida charm and call it a day!
Don’t know why Demi-Fiend got brought up but nice to finally see SB cracking down on the Multiversal Misfit of Demon Academy wank and debunking that shit after, low and behold, more of the novels getting properly translated and not going off liberal fan translations made by power level obsessed geeks. Shit was basically a repeat of FTL Overlord characters until the novels got licensed.![]()
Anos Voldigoad (Maō Gakuin no Futekigōsha) vs Goetia (FGO)
This sounds like Demi-fiend. A lot of saying but no real feats. Soul, mind, concept, etc manipulation is common in fate. Beast 1 exist outside time nd space and immortal and can attack the time line. Anos best feat are self resurrection and not affected by having his heart removed. Servants...forums.spacebattles.com
>Demi-Fiend downplay
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I blame VSBW, aka, madeupstats.net for this poor fellow's existence in the community.Oh god, I forgot Zeno is in this shit
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1. Yhwach's Almighty literally cannot see beings on the same level or beyond him. He literally couldn't see Mimihagi until he went and secured the Soul King so the Balance of Souls wouldn't be disrupted. He shouldn't be able to see ANYONE who has Cosmic Powers beyond him and how many characters in DBS and Sailor Moon hit that threshold? ALOT
2. Yhwach has never shown to bring anyone else back but himself with The Almighty, he has never shown he can take away anyone's power with The Almighty, hell, he's never been shown to even come back from how he was sealed away with it just like his pops. Hakai is killing Yhwach and anyone he fights.
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This... is the... stupidest thing I have ever read in anything that involves Bleach. Barragan. DOESN'T. CONTROL. TIME. It's just a motif that he has and it's not even called Time, it's called AGING.
He literally looked at what Barragan did to Soi-Fon and took what he said literally rather than his aging powers even in his normal state slowed down her kick due to her bones and muscles aging like we saw what happened.
None of that hax matters if you are so slow to do anything. We literally see in Naruto, characters can be faster than the speed of thought if the characters aren't fast enough themselves, the fuck is they going to do to people who treat Faster Than Light as the equivalent of a walk?
Wow, if only Yhwach was able to do that in canon against Ichigo, Renji and Aizen rather than just blast their asses normally and destroy Bankai otherwise... OH WAIT. And spatial erasure? The only thing that comes close is Yhwach using The Almighty to bypass Orihime's shield to hit Ichigo... that's it and that's not erasing space dumbass.
That's not even how Omnipotence works, you fucking idiot sandwich.
lmfaoDon’t know why Demi-Fiend got brought up but nice to finally see SB cracking down on the Multiversal Misfit of Demon Academy wank and debunking that shit after, low and behold, more of the novels getting properly translated and not going off liberal fan translations made by power level obsessed geeks. Shit was basically a repeat of FTL Overlord characters until the novels got licensed.
Not one to normally acknowledge giving Fate a W but Goetia (and any of the Beasts for that matter) would comfortably murk Anus.
His best feats are making an eclipse (with effort now according to the novels) and being able to make a planet crumble in six out of seven attacks needed to “destroy” it to some unknown degree.
Most you can wank him is that at his prime, he’s 10 times the power of the above demonstrations.
No joke, you can literally argue Goetia soloing Midfit of Demon Academy. Perhaps even lower Fate characters can.lmfao
I think qinglong was saying years ago how wanked Maou was based on mistranslations and YET
Thats literally what happened here. Anus being argued as several different levels of infinite Multiversal levels.they got nothing on 2010's era suggs
mah gai made up fanmade translations and was passing them as canon, just to have getbackers reach multiversal/mftl levels, kino ningen moment