Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Xhominid The Apex]

Idk why the Demi-fiend would show up in that conversation, he swats both of them like annoying pests

I still don't understand how you can downplay The Demi-Fiend, let alone any SMT protagonist to perfectly frank.
SMTV explicitly starts and basically leads off the fact that most of the Demons we encounter? Are genuine GODS with all of their known feats available to them. In SMTIV: Apocalypse, you literally demonize YHWH and he ends up getting even STRONGER than he was beforehand despite being a Demon at that point.
The entire plot of SMTV is to literally put a new God on the Throne to make him a true Creator onpar with YHWH.

The entire plot of Nocturne is the fact that the Universe, the fucking Universe, was literally folded into a small ass Egg that's called the Conception with a fragment of YHWH in the center that in the canonical ending, The Demi-Fiend obliterates him from across the entire MULTIVERSE! Then kicked Lucifer's ass and is now a True Demon and he had to fight many Gods including Metatron himself.

Like unless these people never even looked at SMT, I don't know how you can even think it's "alot of saying, but no real feats". It really feels like people listened to IWD's Feats > Statements but they take it as the holy gospel and throw all sense and logic away from the fact that if a statement collaborates with the feat, it's accepted.

 

[Paxton]

I still don't understand how you can downplay The Demi-Fiend, let alone any SMT protagonist to perfectly frank.
SMTV explicitly starts and basically leads off the fact that most of the Demons we encounter? Are genuine GODS with all of their known feats available to them. In SMTIV: Apocalypse, you literally demonize YHWH and he ends up getting even STRONGER than he was beforehand despite being a Demon at that point.
The entire plot of SMTV is to literally put a new God on the Throne to make him a true Creator onpar with YHWH.

The entire plot of Nocturne is the fact that the Universe, the fucking Universe, was literally folded into a small ass Egg that's called the Conception with a fragment of YHWH in the center that in the canonical ending, The Demi-Fiend obliterates him from across the entire MULTIVERSE! Then kicked Lucifer's ass and is now a True Demon and he had to fight many Gods including Metatron himself.

Like unless these people never even looked at SMT, I don't know how you can even think it's "alot of saying, but no real feats". It really feels like people listened to IWD's Feats > Statements but they take it as the holy gospel and throw all sense and logic away from the fact that if a statement collaborates with the feat, it's accepted.

demons died to a multiversal flood in SMT I though

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

demons died to a multiversal flood though

A Multiversal Flood either done by YHWH or The Great Will... which that would still sound about right.

 

[Background Character]

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Again, boasting about how Bang shattering Elder Centipede's with his brother is somehow strong enough to equal him hurting Kaido. He even says that some things in One Piece of similar scale.
Does he not realize how big everything is in One Piece?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

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Again, boasting about how Bang shattering Elder Centipede's with his brother is somehow strong enough to equal him hurting Kaido. He even says that some things in One Piece of similar scale.
Does he not realize how big everything is in One Piece?

He doesn't have any idea of how thick Elder Centipede's Carcass even is or how Bang and Bomb was able to crack it at all(They explicitly hit in a fashion that causes their attacks to continue to reverb within Sage Centipede to the point they broke it from the inside... which is funnier as they never hurt Elder Centipede otherwise).

So it legits makes me laugh that they think that matters when the only reason Bang has a chance... is because this is Pre-Timeskip Rob Lucci, not Post-Timeskip.

 

[ChaosTheory123]

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Again, boasting about how Bang shattering Elder Centipede's with his brother is somehow strong enough to equal him hurting Kaido. He even says that some things in One Piece of similar scale.
Does he not realize how big everything is in One Piece?

One Piece has the issue most series like Bleach do, if you’re not sifting through the scans looking to connect relevant dots you can end up using the lowest end shit like the exaggerated stick figures and get fairly small sizes for shit

Bleach could do the same with Las Noches compared to a very visible Nnoitra for example

 

[B Rabbit]

Oda's also bad scaling islands. So everyone thinks One Piece has 5km size islands.

Then when you actually to the research on scaling OP you find 5km staircases in one building on those 5km islands and then you realize those islands are more like countries and these fuckers are hitting a lot harder than you thought.

It doesn't help One Piece discourse on vs battle forums are always about agendas and never about the series anyways. So you would never know unless someone pointed it out to you.

 

[Blade]

nba level+ strawhats and country+ sized small islands oda piece is the true canon

 

[OtherGalaxy]

I still don't understand how you can downplay The Demi-Fiend, let alone any SMT protagonist to perfectly frank.
SMTV explicitly starts and basically leads off the fact that most of the Demons we encounter? Are genuine GODS with all of their known feats available to them. In SMTIV: Apocalypse, you literally demonize YHWH and he ends up getting even STRONGER than he was beforehand despite being a Demon at that point.
The entire plot of SMTV is to literally put a new God on the Throne to make him a true Creator onpar with YHWH.

The entire plot of Nocturne is the fact that the Universe, the fucking Universe, was literally folded into a small ass Egg that's called the Conception with a fragment of YHWH in the center that in the canonical ending, The Demi-Fiend obliterates him from across the entire MULTIVERSE! Then kicked Lucifer's ass and is now a True Demon and he had to fight many Gods including Metatron himself.

Like unless these people never even looked at SMT, I don't know how you can even think it's "alot of saying, but no real feats". It really feels like people listened to IWD's Feats > Statements but they take it as the holy gospel and throw all sense and logic away from the fact that if a statement collaborates with the feat, it's accepted.

you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVEL because “nukes were a threat” like you don’t see kagutsuchi maintain billions of universes in nocturne

 

[Derpmaster9000]

you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVEL because “nukes were a threat” like you don’t see kagutsuchi maintain billions of universes in nocturne

There're people who unironically believe in sub-bullet level Goku and wooden-door level Elric. This shit doesn't surprise me.

 

[shiny]

Universe 7 (Dragon Ball Super) and Sailor Moon verse vs HST, One Punch Man, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT verse

- Morals off, win via knockout. - No prep time and no interference. - Moro Saga Dragon Ball Super and current One Piece. - Composite One Punch Man (anime, manga and web novel). - EoS Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT and Sailor Moon. - Takes place on Earth. - Only the Sailor Moon verse has...

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well... what exactly is preventing Yhwach to use Am and have both opponents team cover in Ichibei ink erasing all they're powers? DB defenitly have nothing to counter concept manipulation
i'm not 100% sure Sm can't still came out, so let's also use the mausoleum of bones and remove them from existence

Also, just for the fun, Yhwach would let them erasing the team he is with hakai, only to have himself and everyone else on his team came out few second later without a single speck of dust on them

there are literal countless way Yhwach can use the numerous abilities his team has at its disposal to max effect to win this, including time travel and various bs stuff

But on a positive note: they're lucky prime Sk isn't here handling this, he could have make this much worse, like copy all they're powers and abilities (with a conbination of Tsukishima and pernida powers) and start slapping them across the muliverse like ultron with the watcher

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

you say this but i have seen multiple people claim smt caps at CITY LEVEL because “nukes were a threat” like you don’t see kagutsuchi maintain billions of universes in nocturne

Then those people are idiots because they miss the point that Nuclear Weapons are usually called "God's X" by US in real life.
No shit in SMT where Belief is paramount to a God's power, Nuclear Weapons that are named similarly to God smiting something... would cause insane damage to the World over(not to mention most Demons and even most Humans don't even DIE from the resulting Nuclear Catastrophe, that's usually the demons that do the most damage afterwards)

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Universe 7 (Dragon Ball Super) and Sailor Moon verse vs HST, One Punch Man, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT verse

- Morals off, win via knockout. - No prep time and no interference. - Moro Saga Dragon Ball Super and current One Piece. - Composite One Punch Man (anime, manga and web novel). - EoS Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT and Sailor Moon. - Takes place on Earth. - Only the Sailor Moon verse has...

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You forgot to include the dude's rebuttal to the DBS characters being far, far beyond Yhwach in speed and him going TA literally works instantly and shit.

 

[Masterblack06]

You forgot to include the dude's rebuttal to the DBS characters being far, far beyond Yhwach in speed and him going TA literally works instantly and shit.

Universe 7 (Dragon Ball Super) and Sailor Moon verse vs HST, One Punch Man, Toriko, Dragon Ball GT verse

Speed? Even if the opposing team had infinite speed it would mean absoluting nothing It does not matter if by the time Yhwach has made a plan in his mind he has been hit a trilion time by a Db character, the Am make it complitly useless he and his teammate could die (been erase by hakai even) a...

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[Xhominid The Apex]

It honestly makes me laugh how people continue to wank Yhwach and his retarded Almighty which isn't even all that hax and literally basing it on shit that Kubo never followed up on or people literally got it wrong.

well... what exactly is preventing Yhwach to use Am and have both opponents team cover in Ichibei ink erasing all they're powers? DB defenitly have nothing to counter concept manipulation
i'm not 100% sure Sm can't still came out, so let's also use the mausoleum of bones and remove them from existence

Ah yes, Yhwach will somehow be able to work with Ichibei at the same time and somehow, their powers will strip DBS and Sailor Moon of their powers... despite The Almighty literally showing there is an upper limit to how Ichibei's Ink can work on which combatant. It's funny he also goes with the Mausoleum despite the fact that Ichibei was still alive after the attack and would have died if Ichigo wasn't there... existence erasure, my ass.

Also, just for the fun, Yhwach would let them erasing the team he is with hakai, only to have himself and everyone else on his team came out few second later without a single speck of dust on them

Man Yhwach is in for one HELL of a rude awakening when he finds out that Hakai literally destroys a person's existence, soul included.

there are literal countless way Yhwach can use the numerous abilities his team has at its disposal to max effect to win this, including time travel and various bs stuff

FUCKING TIME TRAVEL?! Who in the HST can Time Travel?! And last I checked, Yhwach's domain is JUST the Future, he literally cannot affect the past.

But on a positive note: they're lucky prime Sk isn't here handling this, he could have make this much worse, like copy all they're powers and abilities (with a conbination of Tsukishima and pernida powers) and start slapping them across the muliverse like ultron with the watcher

Ah yes, a character that has done nothing except shilling and keeping the Planets connected and separate. And when can the Soul King copy powers?! Like what the fuck is this?!

 

[OtherGalaxy]

you know
the db verse has time travel
so they can very easily neg the almighty even if it was as bs as this nut is claiming lol

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Oh god, I forgot Zeno is in this shit

Speed? Even if the opposing team had infinite speed it would mean absoluting nothing
It does not matter if by the time Yhwach has made a plan in his mind he has been hit a trilion time by a Db character, the Am make it complitly useless
he and his teammate could die (been erase by hakai even) a quadrilion times a second in this fight, and Yhwach would still be able to do whatever he what whenever he wants, because the Am is that stupid, and the opposition has nothing to stop him doing so

Sigh
1. Yhwach's Almighty literally cannot see beings on the same level or beyond him. He literally couldn't see Mimihagi until he went and secured the Soul King so the Balance of Souls wouldn't be disrupted. He shouldn't be able to see ANYONE who has Cosmic Powers beyond him and how many characters in DBS and Sailor Moon hit that threshold? ALOT

2. Yhwach has never shown to bring anyone else back but himself with The Almighty, he has never shown he can take away anyone's power with The Almighty, hell, he's never been shown to even come back from how he was sealed away with it just like his pops. Hakai is killing Yhwach and anyone he fights.

also, there is Barragan that can slow down time, and several way to reverse or time travel, there is literally and endless ammount of way to ignore the speed disadvangate

tripscust

This... is the... stupidest thing I have ever read in anything that involves Bleach. Barragan. DOESN'T. CONTROL. TIME. It's just a motif that he has and it's not even called Time, it's called AGING.
He literally looked at what Barragan did to Soi-Fon and took what he said literally rather than his aging powers even in his normal state slowed down her kick due to her bones and muscles aging like we saw what happened.

i don't think people understand the ammount of hax team 2 has at it's disposal, and Yhwach can use all of it in any way he what because the Am can basically allow to ignore any restriction that some broken abilities may have instory

None of that hax matters if you are so slow to do anything. We literally see in Naruto, characters can be faster than the speed of thought if the characters aren't fast enough themselves, the fuck is they going to do to people who treat Faster Than Light as the equivalent of a walk?

an exaple: team 2 is splatter into pulp by a casual punch to the air by any fodder of team 1... then team 1 is tore apart by spatial erasing attack that just manifest on them from the future by Yhwach still a pulp!
This can happen!

Wow, if only Yhwach was able to do that in canon against Ichigo, Renji and Aizen rather than just blast their asses normally and destroy Bankai otherwise... OH WAIT. And spatial erasure? The only thing that comes close is Yhwach using The Almighty to bypass Orihime's shield to hit Ichigo... that's it and that's not erasing space dumbass.

also, Op: does Boruto count? if so, yhwach just make everyone on team 1 under Aida charm and call it a day!

That's not even how Omnipotence works, you fucking idiot sandwich.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Hashirama(Naruto) vs Adult Aang(ATLA)

How would Hashi drop a gate on Aang? Aang has better sensory then Hashirama, seismic sense > Hashis sensory. His flight and movement speed is greater than Hashiramas. And what does Insane regen do against being killed? Hashirama cannot regenerate a limb, only heal organs and wounds...

www.fanverse.org

 

[Astaro]

Anos Voldigoad (Maō Gakuin no Futekigōsha) vs Goetia (FGO)

This sounds like Demi-fiend. A lot of saying but no real feats. Soul, mind, concept, etc manipulation is common in fate. Beast 1 exist outside time nd space and immortal and can attack the time line. Anos best feat are self resurrection and not affected by having his heart removed. Servants...

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>Demi-Fiend downplay

Don’t know why Demi-Fiend got brought up but nice to finally see SB cracking down on the Multiversal Misfit of Demon Academy wank and debunking that shit after, low and behold, more of the novels getting properly translated and not going off liberal fan translations made by power level obsessed geeks. Shit was basically a repeat of FTL Overlord characters until the novels got licensed.

Not one to normally acknowledge giving Fate a W but Goetia (and any of the Beasts for that matter) would comfortably murk Anus.

His best feats are making an eclipse (with effort now according to the novels) and being able to make a planet crumble in six out of seven attacks needed to “destroy” it to some unknown degree.

Most you can wank him is that at his prime, he’s 10 times the power of the above demonstrations.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Oh god, I forgot Zeno is in this shit



Sigh
1. Yhwach's Almighty literally cannot see beings on the same level or beyond him. He literally couldn't see Mimihagi until he went and secured the Soul King so the Balance of Souls wouldn't be disrupted. He shouldn't be able to see ANYONE who has Cosmic Powers beyond him and how many characters in DBS and Sailor Moon hit that threshold? ALOT

2. Yhwach has never shown to bring anyone else back but himself with The Almighty, he has never shown he can take away anyone's power with The Almighty, hell, he's never been shown to even come back from how he was sealed away with it just like his pops. Hakai is killing Yhwach and anyone he fights.


tripscust

This... is the... stupidest thing I have ever read in anything that involves Bleach. Barragan. DOESN'T. CONTROL. TIME. It's just a motif that he has and it's not even called Time, it's called AGING.
He literally looked at what Barragan did to Soi-Fon and took what he said literally rather than his aging powers even in his normal state slowed down her kick due to her bones and muscles aging like we saw what happened.



None of that hax matters if you are so slow to do anything. We literally see in Naruto, characters can be faster than the speed of thought if the characters aren't fast enough themselves, the fuck is they going to do to people who treat Faster Than Light as the equivalent of a walk?



Wow, if only Yhwach was able to do that in canon against Ichigo, Renji and Aizen rather than just blast their asses normally and destroy Bankai otherwise... OH WAIT. And spatial erasure? The only thing that comes close is Yhwach using The Almighty to bypass Orihime's shield to hit Ichigo... that's it and that's not erasing space dumbass.



That's not even how Omnipotence works, you fucking idiot sandwich.

I blame VSBW, aka, madeupstats.net for this poor fellow's existence in the community.