Game Unranked Archived Fairy Tail Mafia - The Dawn of Fiore [Main Game Thread] (Game Ended - Zeref Dragneel and Acnologia have won the game)

[Emil]

if zeref was just a survivor this whole last phase doesnt happen and mafia just wins after lynching nat

 

[DoflaMihawk]

Lessons I've learned:

- Only kill Ratch once
- Kill RDK more than once
- Let Kobe get himself killed

 

[DoflaMihawk]

Sure they can see our chat

Let them see our shame

 

[Ratchet]

hime (seilah) - checks ratchet for destructive abilties + rolecops him. success. obtains ratchet's role and a magic charge for hades (sees tpein visit ratchet)
hime (seilah) - factional kills ratchet. fails. ratchet's kill (indie kill) resolves first and he leaves the game before dying.

Why rolecop me the same night you're trying to kill me with a rolecrush? Honestly Purple spent *a lot* of resources the first three cycles for no actual gain, ended up being a deciding factor even.

 

[DoflaMihawk]

Hime had the idea for us all to vote end day after Sworder did

Would've worked too if not for Sworder's revive earlier

He caused our feelings of both triumph and despair in the span of 5 minutes

 

[Emil]

With the exception of Psychic I dueled only purple scum kek. This despite being drunk and sick af.

GG RDK. Love this <3.

u had dueled tpein and hime same phase but lost both. didnt bother to win the duel cuz drunk i presume

imagine winning that duel. u wud be able to redirect them or their votes. wud be pretty strong

 

[Ratchet]

Lessons I've learned:

- Only kill Ratch once
- Kill RDK more than once
- Let Kobe get himself killed

The second kill on my wasn't that bad still, it's not out of the realm of possibility that it was only a one time immunity so I can see the logic behind it. I think you guys could have caught on to me being indie from day 2, and by definition even if I'm siding with town killing me is less useful than killing town, the real misstep was probably night 3 because by that point you could assume I'd be self-resolving before long.

 

[hime]

Why rolecop me the same night you're trying to kill me with a rolecrush? Honestly Purple spent *a lot* of resources the first three cycles for no actual gain, ended up being a deciding factor even.

u said u would survive another kill on u
we had to get rid of u somehow, role copping would tell us how u can die
and if u dont die, we could control ur role later

 

[Emil]

Why rolecop me the same night you're trying to kill me with a rolecrush? Honestly Purple spent *a lot* of resources the first three cycles for no actual gain, ended up being a deciding factor even.

i think to was to strengthen hime's claim of "saw ratchet targeted by a destructive ability". they might have forgot that it rolecops too. seilah just got the required class to make it a rolecop the previous day (day 3)

 

[Emil]

u said u would survive another kill on u
we had to get rid of u somehow, role copping would tell us how u can die
and if u dont die, we could control ur role later

that too. the control part. purple was hoping to control a killer role

kind of unfortunate the only one u got (nat) used an ultra kill that could not be controlled

 

[One Last Username]

You guys should have shot hime…..

 

[hime]

that too. the control part. purple was hoping to control a killer role

kind of unfortunate the only one u got (nat) used an ultra kill that could not be controlled

tbh didnt understand y we couldnt control ultra kills
the control should be processed before according to ability tree?

 

[hime]

sry if i'm coming off as a sore loser here
really well played @RDK tbh
very townie seeming, the reviver chose u over the cop lmao

 

[T-Pein™]

tbh didnt understand y we couldnt control ultra kills
the control should be processed before according to ability tree?

He was playing anti scum.
We should had had priority over how we use the charges.

 

[T-Pein™]

He was playing anti scum.
We should had had priority over how we use the charges.

We literally killed RDK twice.
First time he was revived and 2nd time kekko cucked us by allowing nat to use her role even tho we supposedly had control over it.

 

[Emil]

tbh didnt understand y we couldnt control ultra kills
the control should be processed before according to ability tree?

ultra kills r absolute. ur ability, busdrives, roleblocks etc.. nothing in the game stops an ultra kill

the only thing that can weaken it however is a reduce kill strength (like hayumi's role or cobra's ultimate). that makes an ultrakill become a superkill or lower. nat's ultimate is the only ultrakill town has. i cannot make it controllable

ur team and red team also has 1 ultra kill. tbh u dont need more. most townies are defenseless. there r only 4 roles with bulletproof this game (natsu, hades, august, acnologia). tpein was 100-year really fast. shooting anyone that is 2 classed and below was almost a guranteed kill for him

kobe has 1 ultra kill that only worked on psychic/ratchet

ratchet has 1 lynch level kill. this is stronger than ultra and cannot be stopped. if u got shot by this its just unlucky for u. the only way to mitigate a lynch level kill is to revive the dead player with a seraph reviver, which is only ultear's role

BPD has 1 lynch level kill, but this kills himself and the target

 

[Ratchet]

u said u would survive another kill on u
we had to get rid of u somehow, role copping would tell us how u can die
and if u dont die, we could control ur role later

That's the point though - you didn't have to get rid of me at all. If you came to the conclusion that I'm Indie, then a glance over the thread state would tell you that I'm not going to reach endgame either way, so your options would either be to let me resolve or block me/redirect me or protect yourselves. As scum, especially in multi ball, you already have a town to kill and an enemy scum team - spending a rolecrush, a busdrive, a role cop and 3 separate kills on a role that you *can* win with is obviously going to work against you. If even a single one of those kills had gone on a townie and worked you almost certainly win the game.

 

[Emil]

We literally killed RDK twice.
First time he was revived and 2nd time kekko cucked us by allowing nat to use her role even tho we supposedly had control over it.

first time he died and was revived

second time he would not have died with nat's kill. instead nat will be rolecrushed (as RDK activated rolecrsh in n6). however the ultra kill takes priority over that.

i could have it such that ur control owns nat's role and her ultra kill submission isnt counted. in that case, nat gets rolecrushed for targeting RDK as u commanded her to and nothing else happens. psychic remains alive as nat doesn't shoot her.

 

[T-Pein™]

That's the point though - you didn't have to get rid of me at all. If you came to the conclusion that I'm Indie, then a glance over the thread state would tell you that I'm not going to reach endgame either way, so your options would either be to let me resolve or block me/redirect me or protect yourselves. As scum, especially in multi ball, you already have a town to kill and an enemy scum team - spending a rolecrush, a busdrive, a role cop and 3 separate kills on a role that you *can* win with is obviously going to work against you. If even a single one of those kills had gone on a townie and worked you almost certainly win the game.

Just like said.
Conviction.
If it failed on the 3rd I would had ultra killed you the next night

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Pretty harsh game for us reds but was still fun, thanks for the game Ekko!

I think that Zeref wincon is fine, it's like day 8 and that role is gonna lose the game a lot more than it's gonna win