Game Ranked The Traitors Mafia

[Magic]

Are you joking? First he advocated for lynching Ekko and yet tied me to an Ekko town flip saying it would make me look bad. Does that make any sense to you? Does that come from somebody that has read the thread and is formulating real opinions or does it come from someone that is trying to make up an opinion on the spot and misremembered what happened?

Also, he voted to SHIELD RAEM? Like what??? Did he explain that? Did he explain reading him town?? Looks pretty convenient in hindsight now we know the flip doesn’t it

i didn't say any of it makes sense. i just don't correlate making sense with being scummy lol. like he was just flailing but not necessarily in a scummy way.

 

[Ultra]

Except it had literally nothing to do with his play around magic? Have you forgotten what the read was??
It was about the fact that he actively voted for magic to have the shield, and advocate as such in the thread, something he had absolutely no reason to do as scum because nobody else was talking about it, and keeping magic around is something he actively wouldn’t want as scum. Had nothing to do with him playing nice

You think a member of the mafia has no possible investment into the discussion at hand of who should be protected.

Further, you think mafia has no incentive to strategically utilize the concept of the shield to cozy up and disarm players who pose a challenge.

Because if you can accept these, you would see why this is utterly thick

 

[Poyser]

i didn't say any of it makes sense. i just don't correlate making sense with being scummy lol. like he was just flailing but not necessarily in a scummy way.

I get that, but I struggle to explain it coming from town? Like not making sense isn’t necessarily scummy but nor does that make it town kek. If you notice something in the thread that makes you read somebody a certain way, you’re far less likely to get that version of events wrong, because it made you feel a certain way. If your opinion is bullshit then obviously you look for reasons to back it up and that’s where you can get it wrong

It’s not even that he doesn’t make sense that’s the issue, it’s that he’s made a read and an association based on something that doesn’t make aense

Also again… voting to shield raem?!

 

[Poyser]

You think a member of the mafia has no possible investment into the discussion at hand of who should be protected.

Further, you think mafia has no incentive to strategically utilize the concept of the shield to cozy up and disarm players who pose a challenge.

Because if you can accept these, you would see why this is utterly thick

Are you fucking stupid??

Obviously they have an investment in the discussion. That investment would be in making sure the result of said discussion results in a positive for them????

Feel like im the twilight zone here

 

[Ultra]

Saying you have no issue with the throw away vote is both such a surface level take and really bad. Even if RDK is scum, there’s not really anything in that vote that would stop them being aligned, because RDK was never in danger nor did he try and push it hard. It was just safe. You need to evaluate tweet himself and not just come with this crap

What credibility does Tweet gain from tossing his vote there that couldn't easily be easily accomplished by him just communicating his scum read on him lol. This is a bit forced

 

[Ultra]

Are you fucking stupid??

Obviously they have an investment in the discussion. That investment would be in making sure the result of said discussion results in a positive for them????

Feel like im the twilight zone here

So you think in no conceivable universe does RDK do anything but cower away and immediately try to kill Magic at the first possible chance and any deviation from this exact sequence is license to read him because it is an objectively negative value play? What a load of horsecrock. I'm rather used to it by now, but it still amazes me you unironically think along these lines and pass this for play. I'd rather believe you're scum, but unfortunately this is par for the course.

I'm going to invoke my inner Ratchet her and call this what it is - Dross. Feel free to address anything in that ISO, you're going to have to when I take his ass to the rope.

@Magic I'd like you to weigh in on RDK as well

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Huh

Wish we’d have flipped Richard instead so I’d know whether or not I could trust magic kek.

Thing that stood out to me the most out of everything at EoD was tweet making a show of asking people to convince him of cases… and then throwing his vote on Haza who was never a viable lynch. Just bad. Also felt his take on Richard was lazy as fuck, disregarded everything to say “feels more lost than scum” despite the fact that me, magic, Shep and cp all wanted him voted out. Like as town there I’m fairly sure Tweet would take that way more seriously than just being like nah don’t see it gonna waste my vote instead

Nobody convinced me and I didn't like the options people were giving me so why would I do anything else than do my own shit instead

 

[Poyser]

What credibility does Tweet gain from tossing his vote there that couldn't easily be easily accomplished by him just communicating his scum read on him lol. This is a bit forced

Credibility?
Maybe Richard is scum and he doesn’t wanna vote there, but doesn’t wanna be the one to go directly against it in case he flips anyway, or indeed flips in the future. Again, in terms of thread sway it was an incredibly strong wagon

Maybe Richard is town and he felt that he’d look like shit if he sheeped on it and thought he’d look better by trying to do his own thing

Let me ask you something. What’s the town motivation to throw your vote on someone that has no chance of getting lynched and also not even bothering to try and convince anybody else to vote along with you? Especially when the main wagon options are so close, that you’re pretty much leaving up to others to decide, of which there is a probable scum influence?

Adding to this, earlier on tweet seemed pretty sure that RAEM was scum and was struggling yet when it came time to go, he didn’t wanna vote him? Again do you find this 180 satisfactory?

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Ughhh this is gonna be so damn bor

 

[Poyser]

So you think in no conceivable universe does RDK do anything but cower away and immediately try to kill Magic at the first possible chance and any deviation from this exact sequence is license to read him because it is an objectively negative value play? What a load of horsecrock. I'm rather used to it by now, but it still amazes me you unironically think along these lines and pass this for play. I'd rather believe you're scum, but unfortunately this is par for the course.

I'm going to invoke my inner Ratchet her and call this what it is - Dross. Feel free to address anything in that ISO, you're going to have to when I take his ass to the rope.

@Magic I'd like you to weigh in on RDK as well

This is so disingenuous I’m not even gonna bother

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Ughhh this is gonna be so damn bor

Fuck posting on phone

BORING.

Cba figuring out if Poyser is scum or not, I just hate it whenever he thinks I'm scum. Don't even wanna talk to the guy about it tbh, he's responsible for just about 100% of the times I get mislynched

 

[Ultra]

nat, much like raem, looks town based on her attitude towards ekko.

there's no reason to act out in that way and basically try to policy lynch as scum and write it off as the person is annoying. like it's genuine frustration. scum often don't put their own frustrations over their team(due to being in a chat with their team and knowing them), whereas town are much more likely to go down that route.

What?

You're saying scum don't cite irrelevant reasons to justify their behavior? Am I reading this correctly?

As far as Nat vs Ekko goes, I wouldn't be comfortable reading it as anything other than NAI, because it's clear there's some underlying...tension there, and they have a history. I think they need to light some candles and find a room.

 

[Ultra]

He's responsible for just about 100% of the times I get mislynched

 

[Poyser]

Like you’re just posting absolute hyperbolic drivel to avoid tackling my actual points and it’s pathetic

I really want to think you are scum but this is reminding me so much of flowers game that I can’t possibly ignore it

 

[Poyser]

Fuck posting on phone

BORING.

Cba figuring out if Poyser is scum or not, I just hate it whenever he thinks I'm scum. Don't even wanna talk to the guy about it tbh, he's responsible for just about 100% of the times I get mislynched

Pathetic

Why bother playing

 

[Ultra]

Like you’re just posting absolute hyperbolic drivel to avoid tackling my actual points and it’s pathetic

Fuck off, you literally just no-sold my entire case and ISO in favor of crack smoked out of a tinfoil cigarette.

 

[hime]

this is a vig kill i think

did mafia not recruit?

why kill cp

the wu literally says the traitors killed him

 

[Goth Boy]

the wu literally says the traitors killed him

You exposed Ekko as a speedreader

 

[hime]

You exposed Ekko as a speedreader

what r ur reads so far?

 

[Natalija]

Okay, I am going to claim my role now, I lied about being vanilla.

I'm the OMGUS cop

Which means I needed people to suspect/vote me so that I could investigate them. It was a one shot, so it doesn't matter anymore if scum know. I had a few candidates: Spamsopp, Ultra, hime, Magic, Poy.

I investigated Magic, for better or for worse, and he is town.