Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

[Evans]

Ekko can go as a town lean too

 

[Evans]

lethal why do you do this. it troubles my heart.

let's say youre reading back right now and liking posts but you weren't around. that would mean your likes showed up for others reading back but you also weren't commenting as you read back way after.

this feels like you know cp brought up the fact she was liking posts but not commenting but you didn't just states that's where youre getting the impression from. so instead it just sounds like a weird fucking comment because you have no time reference to know when she liked the posts.

this is entirely not alignment indicative. it just doesn't make SENSE AND TROUBLES MY HEART.

 

[Emil]

ok caught up again

town
gram
melkor
lethal

lean town
evans
sworder
magic - btw how come u dont think xadlin's entrace is similar to fairy tail? @Magic

town side of null
rem - trending down. @RÆM pls give us ur reasoning for ur reads and how they progress now
fang - trending down as well. @Aurelian pls respond to my question above about ur current read of gram after knowing he voted u before BPD
t-pein

null - i dont have a strong reason to town read anyone here
psychic
BPD
odd
tweet
nat


lean scum
cp
xadlin - his opening is very similar to fairy tail as opposed to MHW. just a bit tame/less urgent but the essence of first post activity excuse into saying he will do his best then writing a summary is how he played there

 

[Evans]

ok caught up again

town
gram
melkor
lethal

lean town
evans
sworder
magic - btw how come u dont think xadlin's entrace is similar to fairy tail? @Magic

town side of null
rem - trending down. @RÆM pls give us ur reasoning for ur reads and how they progress now
fang - trending down as well. @Aurelian pls respond to my question above about ur current read of gram after knowing he voted u before BPD
t-pein

null - i dont have a strong reason to town read anyone here
psychic
BPD
odd
tweet
nat


lean scum
cp
xadlin - his opening is very similar to fairy tail as opposed to MHW. just a bit tame/less urgent but the essence of first post activity excuse into saying he will do his best then writing a summary is how he played there

Why town on T-Pein

 

[Magic]

i think evans is town.

dont really like lethals read back. not read all of it thus far, but lacks lethal's typical town bite he has to it. like he's going after aurelian with what odo is giving him but isn't needlessly attacking him and calling him out for dumb shit, or what he thinks is dumb shit, as he tends to do while calling him trash.

i highly doubt anyone is going to have an appetite for a day 1 lethal lynch though so hopefully everyone just takes note of this instead.

 

[Magic]

Well that was something.

Town column: Gram, Magic, Melkor, CP, Tweet
Gram been consistent with his drive on Fang; Magic good with questions; Melkor different approach to this game; CP is more in hope cos I can't wolf read him; Tweet actually taking action and not paper pushing.

Wolf column: Fang, Raem, Psychic
Fang with the abysmal overreaction to slight shade, then tripling down on the argument with Gram that did nothing but distract the game play; Raem blindly following along with Fang and the defending of him based on falsely represented bullying; Psychic done a shit ton of likes and reacts, yet hasn't done much if any towards the game state.

Wanna see more from Dragon and Evans to put them in a slot.

although i do like this overall and more than his read back posts.

 

[Emil]

Why town on T-Pein

2 main reasons for the weak town read

1. first wifom speaking - i dont think he'd roll scum and play remotely similar to what got him almost day 1'ed last time he was scum
2. second - like magic mentioned tpein did in his first posts here than his entire day 1 and 2 in MHW game. its not rly anything majorly impressive tho so read can change easily

now reasons why tpein can be scum:
if aurelian is town i can see tpein/cp as a team. cp is susing tpein and all but has no meat. he will pounce on town aurelian lynch any time (and he has already signaled doing so)

 

[Magic]

i dont think fang is "gaslighting". i think he is just worried that gram could be scum trying to paint him as scummy and lynch him

when fang is scum he town read the people pushing him iirc

i feel like he thinks gram is town but then he doesnt wanna town read someone tunneling him this much so he decides to scum read him so he isnt wrong later in case gram was scum

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rem's contributions r on the weak side yes, but do u sense any ill agenda? like sus'iest thing i can feel from him is maybe a tmi read on fang (but i arrived at same read so idk). its just i remember rem does pocket as scum but this doesnt feel like he is gaining favor of fang and using him to push anything. also him having a scum list of 5 players doesnt help him as scum. need his reasoning for the reads rn cuz they r mostly lazy

do u town read everyone else? thoughts on cp?

i disagree with this stance.

in traitors and monster hunter he made his team up of people pushing him.

remember in traitors he had ultra as his main scum read but the more you pushed him the more he put you apart of his scum team and then basically made a scum team of 3 people that were pushing him.

similarly in mwh his scum team was comprised of poyser and a few others pushing him. he wouldn't let it up.

in this game he was reluctant to put these groups together. i can see him trying to avoid this if he's scum so town can't work out who is town from his read lists.

also as odo and i mentioned previously, he did try repeatedly hammering in the idea that odo was a liar/full of shit but refraining from calling him scum which doesn't make sense if he thinks he's lying.

 

[Tempest]

unvote
vote Aurelian

 

[Grammaton]

i didnt draw any sort of connection at all, if anything id say scum's best bet here is to no lynch maybe?

Well no you didn’t say anything, that’s why I’m asking

 

[Natalija]

there's a 20 page argument of odo/aurelian. the reactions of everyone else and where they stand are telling.

to sum it real quick, odo didn't like that aurelian's initial response to an accusation was insults opposed to defending himself at a larger capacity as he often does(and then afterwards proceeded to do with odo).

also, as i feel like it's getting lost in the shuffle, i wasn't really a big fan of aurelian letting people talk down his game because as town i've often seen him get indignant when people talk down his game whereas this game he was talking down his own game, liking posts inferring that his own game should be met with lower standards, and replied to a tweet post where he said he's basically beating a dead horse and asking him if that isn't what matches his town meta.

he eventually claimed voyeur.

@Aurelian can you respond to this for me?

And also, hmmm voyeur

 

[Magic]

also fang town read RDK in elden ring. he scum reads u here. thats another subtle difference in how he perceived being sused as scum vs what i think is town here

odo repeatedly asked him to scum read him/why he wasn't scum reading him before he eventually scum read him though.

 

[Tempest]

odo repeatedly asked him to scum read him/why he wasn't scum reading him before he eventually scum read him though.

wasn't that just for the vote? I thought he was calling him scum the entire time?

 

[Magic]

wasn't that just for the vote? I thought he was calling him scum the entire time?

no, he brought up the idea he could be town and wouldn't commit to calling him scum for some time.

honestly the role mix up and the way he approached it reminds me of mwh too; i.e. getting the role wrong then correcting it and saying directly how his role works and being annoyed about being questioned on it.

 

[Magic]

i dont have a reason to town read him

this is what i recall from cp

> opened by telling evans not to talk about tpein. very easy topic to have as scum
> tagged psychic multiple times for asking her to do stuff. this goes nowhere. nor from cp's side nor psychics. potential teammate equity
> cant tell his stance on the you vs aurelian topic. as evans mentioned it feels like cp is wishy washy about this wagon. i ant really tell u other than this who he really scum reads
> his comments are honestly nitpicking easy inconsistencies that town can make all the time, like his posts to tpein. this isnt really solving. this is scum fake contributing


i dont have anything from cp to town read him off

i dont think cp's comments against tpein were nitpicky. it's a valid point and comparison.

cp is smart as scum though and would recognize it as such and it's similar in vein to how i mad a wagon on lethal in mwh knowing what he did was scummy and comparable to his previous game.

 

[Natalija]

Why the hell did Aurelian said his claim so quickly, it feels like he just entered the thread and claimed lol
Also it is kinda unfair to keep Grammaton in the nulls zone, I will give him a town lean, feels like he did way to much activity, - Im not confident on his Aurelian take tho, maybe he is on the money maybe not, idk
Raem has the same vibe like in mhm, maybe he is a little more defensive/ w this Aurelian talk, I still think that he went a little hard on T-vegan at the start but well nothing out the ordinary
Physic has some confidence in her initials reads, dont see nothing that astonished there
Idk what BPD is doing, how can you even read that slot? Aurelian tunneling every game?
Unvote

You sound very unsure overall, has your mind changed on anything by now?

 

[Magic]

fixed

why do you town read bpd and lethal?

 

[Natalija]

For the record, I am not 100 on Fang being wolf here, but he's definitely a wolf read.

This is a weird post, how can anyone be 100 sure as a townie?

 

[Aurelian]

@Aurelian can you respond to this for me?

And also, hmmm voyeur

For what purpose

 

[Tempest]

> opened by telling evans not to talk about tpein. very easy topic to have as scum

another way to look at it if you weren't just tunneling: encouraging players to solve rather than wage personal vendettas is a pro-town move

> tagged psychic multiple times for asking her to do stuff. this goes nowhere. nor from cp's side nor psychics. potential teammate equity

literally led to her dropping some substance which felt like town psychic, which I was the first to acknowledge. so it led to a town read.

> cant tell his stance on the you vs aurelian topic. as evans mentioned it feels like cp is wishy washy about this wagon. i ant really tell u other than this who he really scum reads

yeah I have reservations about it because he's not too different from MHW but Odo has made some good points and was right about him in Fallout, I tend to trust players like Magic and Odo d1 more than my own reads and also letting them get their way helps me read them