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Last post at the moment to you, I need to have my dinner then do my research on the above mentioned earlier players simply going to repeat myself:

- you aren't playing like your normal town self
- you aren't being hyper aggressive and mindlessly tunneling at anyone who barks back at you
- you've produced absolutely worthless reads lists which are without any value because 90% of them besides myself and Grammaton you barely/didn't interact with at all
- you are perturbed Craig withdrawing how the town read on you because he's suspicious of your later posts and behavior
- you have remained completely static to Ekko spending his last bunch of posts undermining and playing what could be seen as distancing if your aligned and not commented on it
- you don't have a single other player to suspect at all here

Not good signs.
Meta is bunk and I've explained multiple times why I'm not interested in playing 'how I usually do'.

It's curious that I get absolutely slandered for my tunnels and when I try to be more mindful and patient, you try and use it against me. I've put myself, and others, in unhelpful situations because of my tunnels and especially on this site, it's not something that's really worth it.

Do I need to interact with every slot to get a read? That's complete bull. I've read the game, I've read interactions between slots, I don't personally need to interact with a player to come up with some sort of read for that slot. You don't believe that.

Where have I ever showed being perturbed? What kind of emotion are you trying to dress up here? Craig hasn't explained his progression on me going from town to wolf. Me having a couple of posts that apparently 'rubbed him the wrong way' isn't an explanation, especially when I have done my best to help clarify any questions he has had about my slot.

What the fuck is this bull? Ekko is doing his own thing, he's not addressing me, and there's nothing that demands a response from my slot about what he's posting. How are you trying to align us here based on me 'remaining static'? That feels like an ass pull to me and makes no sense.

That's not true at all? I didn't like Raem. I don't like Craig right now based on what Ekko has said and how he's flip flopped on me. I'm iffy on Magic. I'm not crazy on Nat or Odd. I think Xad voting me and peacing is not a great look.

You say not good signs, but basically what your argument against me comes down to is that I'm 'not playing like my town self' and my reads are shit.


Enjoy your dinner!
 
I've never ever indicated I read you as town at any point in the game
But you never called me wolf until the wagon on me started. Your use of the r-word also suggests that you thought I was an idiot and full of shit as opposed to being wolf.
 
Meta is bunk and I've explained multiple times why I'm not interested in playing 'how I usually do'.

It's curious that I get absolutely slandered for my tunnels and when I try to be more mindful and patient, you try and use it against me. I've put myself, and others, in unhelpful situations because of my tunnels and especially on this site, it's not something that's really worth it.

Do I need to interact with every slot to get a read? That's complete bull. I've read the game, I've read interactions between slots, I don't personally need to interact with a player to come up with some sort of read for that slot. You don't believe that.

Where have I ever showed being perturbed? What kind of emotion are you trying to dress up here? Craig hasn't explained his progression on me going from town to wolf. Me having a couple of posts that apparently 'rubbed him the wrong way' isn't an explanation, especially when I have done my best to help clarify any questions he has had about my slot.

What the fuck is this bull? Ekko is doing his own thing, he's not addressing me, and there's nothing that demands a response from my slot about what he's posting. How are you trying to align us here based on me 'remaining static'? That feels like an ass pull to me and makes no sense.

That's not true at all? I didn't like Raem. I don't like Craig right now based on what Ekko has said and how he's flip flopped on me. I'm iffy on Magic. I'm not crazy on Nat or Odd. I think Xad voting me and peacing is not a great look.

You say not good signs, but basically what your argument against me comes down to is that I'm 'not playing like my town self' and my reads are shit.


Enjoy your dinner!
If you are town and this is a proper change it is a good one. Unfortunately the first game you make the change will always draw suspicion as it's just how humans react to change lol.


Did you state why you're iffy on me?
 
But you never called me wolf until the wagon on me started. Your use of the r-word also suggests that you thought I was an idiot and full of shit as opposed to being wolf.
You are being intentionally evasive again and not answering me: I never before your wagon happened ultimately resolved you as being town clearly. Grammaton even pressed me on me hinting I saw you as scum or was he lying?
 
If you are town and this is a proper change it is a good one. Unfortunately the first game you make the change will always draw suspicion as it's just how humans react to change lol.


Did you state why you're iffy on me?
I mean, I played like this last game but I wasn't sussed. Right now I'm only being sussed by Fang and Craig for 'not playing like myself' and Xad just jumped on. You've never explained your vote on me, though, other than you saying other have said I play a certain way.

I think you could be a puppet master this game. There's been a lot of posts where I do think you're making pro-town comments and trying to move the game forward, but there are other times where I pause and wonder if you have an agenda. Sorry I don't have any examples to pull on this! Sorry if I'm being wishy washy on your slot!

;)
 
You are being intentionally evasive again and not answering me: I never before your wagon happened ultimately resolved you as being town clearly. Grammaton even pressed me on me hinting I saw you as scum or was he lying?
What am I being evasive about and not answering??? I'm the one asking the questions!

Okay so Gram said you were just hinting at me being wolf? This is supposed to prove what exactly?? When I called you out for seeming like you were forcing your town meta, did you think I was wolf? Or did you call me the r-word and try to dismiss me?
 
What am I being evasive about and not answering???
The entire framing of the question was a smoking gun and not what actually transpired.
That's how.
I'm the one asking the questions!
Good for you, Coloumbo.
Okay so Gram said you were just hinting at me being wolf? This is supposed to prove what exactly?? When I called you out for seeming like you were forcing your town meta, did you think I was wolf? Or did you call me the r-word and try to dismiss me?
So you aren't disagreeing that Grammaton correctly deduced I was shading you as scum. But at the same time you are contradicting it by saying it shouldn't count, somehow I am "forcing" my own meta as town but don't explain how I am but then repeat yourself earlier as if it makes a difference here. Unlike the last game where I came around to seeing you as town, there was still a foundation and basis for your normal play, here there is none of that.

I went over the first 24 hours, most of your posts are involving me and Grammaton.
Lesser extent with Craig. Magic, and Ekko.
When you voted me and Raem voted you back, you gave a 1-liner response to both Magic and Raem.
You had like all of 2 posts interacting with Tweet between the first TWENTY NINE/29 pages in day 1.
You also liked the post where Melkor mistakes the first lynch vote on me from Grammaton and attributes it to you.

You have barely any interactions with Raem.
You have barely any interactions with Tweet.
You have barely any interactions with Evans.
You have barely any interactions with Psychic.
You have barely any interactions with TSworder.
You have barely any interactions with Nat.
You have barely if ANY interactions with Melkor.
You have basically no interactions with T-Pein, Lethal, or Odd.


Despite this you felt confident to produce a sub-par reads list on like 60-70% or more of the games players to give very weak one-liner reads on basically calling them all light town while not interacting with most of the games active players besides a very small handful of people.

There is no scope of interactions you have with any other players that match arguing, debating, or interacting with me and Grammaton.

On top of that you are ignoring everything I said about Ekko retracting his earlier town read on you and shoving you into his null pile because he found several of your posts suspicious but you keep tracking between me and to a lesser extent, Craig. Not a word about Ekko at all here whose potentially setting you up for taking a lynch here.

Very odd behavior.
 
Wet noodle, wasn't that what Ultra was calling me last game? What did I flip there?

Key word here being usually. Like I said, sometimes I don't have the time or energy to be thay active or strong with my convictions, which is why I'm saying my activity and what I can contribute to the game is NAI. You keep going back to 'you aren't how you usually are!' but I don't have much interest in playing that way in this game. You think my reads are mailed in, okay, have you disagreed with them? Do you think I'm completely off basis this game? Does it seem like I have an agenda? What posts of mine are feeling wolfy? This feels like a lazy and opportunistic push by you all because you think I'm not playing like how I USUALLY play.
yeah but Ultra never catches scum :obamalaugh

I don't really know what your reads are because you hedged or used language like "I guess" a lot. Can you expand on any of your town reads and why you feel decent about them?
 
Now for real to do my research but I want to point out BPD has not given a single clear cut scum read at all in the entire game.
Not even for me, whose his strongest push for lynching, he admits multiple times that he's not "100" (percent?) certain I could be scum but no one else has fallen into his scum radar.

Food for thought. :aizen
 
Magic seems off this game but I would need to see more from him before I write him off as scum, I don't really like Odd's entrance. I don't mind going in that direction over Aurelian. Although I don't want to see Aurelian vs Gram next dayphase either. I feel it's better to resolve his slot now.

magic - scum lean/feels off
Odd - scum lean
Aurelian - needs to be resolved
Nat - says alot but nothing substantial
Lethal - something about him feels off
I think we should resolve BPD or T-Pein instead of Aurelian tbdean
 
The entire framing of the question was a smoking gun and not what actually transpired.
That's how.

Good for you, Coloumbo.

So you aren't disagreeing that Grammaton correctly deduced I was shading you as scum. But at the same time you are contradicting it by saying it shouldn't count, somehow I am "forcing" my own meta as town but don't explain how I am but then repeat yourself earlier as if it makes a difference here. Unlike the last game where I came around to seeing you as town, there was still a foundation and basis for your normal play, here there is none of that.

I went over the first 24 hours, most of your posts are involving me and Grammaton.
Lesser extent with Craig. Magic, and Ekko.
When you voted me and Raem voted you back, you gave a 1-liner response to both Magic and Raem.
You had like all of 2 posts interacting with Tweet between the first TWENTY NINE/29 pages in day 1.
You also liked the post where Melkor mistakes the first lynch vote on me from Grammaton and attributes it to you.

You have barely any interactions with Raem.
You have barely any interactions with Tweet.
You have barely any interactions with Evans.
You have barely any interactions with Psychic.
You have barely any interactions with TSworder.
You have barely any interactions with Nat.
You have barely if ANY interactions with Melkor.
You have basically no interactions with T-Pein, Lethal, or Odd.


Despite this you felt confident to produce a sub-par reads list on like 60-70% or more of the games players to give very weak one-liner reads on basically calling them all light town while not interacting with most of the games active players besides a very small handful of people.

There is no scope of interactions you have with any other players that match arguing, debating, or interacting with me and Grammaton.

On top of that you are ignoring everything I said about Ekko retracting his earlier town read on you and shoving you into his null pile because he found several of your posts suspicious but you keep tracking between me and to a lesser extent, Craig. Not a word about Ekko at all here whose potentially setting you up for taking a lynch here.

Very odd behavior.
Very odd behavior.
 
yeah but Ultra never catches scum :obamalaugh

I don't really know what your reads are because you hedged or used language like "I guess" a lot. Can you expand on any of your town reads and why you feel decent about them?
I have already expanded. Melkor and Psychic I actually gave decent posts about. Expanded on Lethal when Magic asked. Gram I've expanded on because of how he handled Fang. Already talked about my decent town reads.
 
mainly the accuracy of them, they ring true. Aurelian hasn't really had a chance to go on the offense this game since he was under fire from early on so this shows another side to his mindset this game and I like what I'm seeing
Can you expand on what rang true?
 
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