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Ultra

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... dude it was a second meme vote posted less than 5 minutes after the first meme vote.

Because his meme vote inspired me to also meme vote on Kurumi

Well its pretty suspect since you go after meme voter instead of :
the OG Voter to ask why or The Person who was voted the completely dipped out or if you really wanna dogpile on a meme vote then there's The First Meme vote, who is still around and admitted it was a meme

Oh God, I thought you knew better. Youre either hard scum this game or a Jester, no one gives 3rd man theory two shits

Good stuff. Ratchet btfo.
 

Ratchet

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@Sigismund I'll outline my particular reservation with you - Kurumi has, historically, demonstrated that she reacts poorly to pressure. It is not irreconcilable that she sees an early wagon and claims off of it. Your third vote did, IMO, put her at risk of this. Ultra's to a lesser extent too of course, but it being a lesser extent is why I'm talking to you and not him.

Now in response to this, you've insisted my vote on you is both the same as yours (it's not), and then is inherently scummy, and now you're of the position that the act is so scummy, it cannot possibly come from town looking to force something early to get the ball rolling, and must exclusively come from scum. Of course, you have not adequately qualified any of this from my point of view. In summary, I think your vote is largely OMGUS dressed up with a reason that is, frankly, not very well thought through. Where do you go from here?
 

Sigismund

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Which makes you the third.
Or I go for the second meme vote, who might be trying to engineer pressure without consequence.
Oh no, rumbled already! Jester, in Ranked? No chance.

Like if my suspicion is so bad it means I must be locked scum, why would it be any better if I voted Ultra under the same premise?
Ok and? 3rd man theory is stupid, and almost always wrong. The few times it isn't really doesn't make it a rule, just makes it coincidence. Let alone day 1 page 1 , with clear meme votes.

Its not your suspicion thats bad, its how you have presented your case thus far, with your main contention being "YoU vOtEd ThIrD"and doubling down that route rather than any-other argument like 'Why are you here and active so early in the game compared to your usual meta". Nor did you just
 

Sigismund

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@Sigismund , but it being a lesser extent is why I'm talking to you and not him.


Were both here (Ultra and I), were both active for now, if its only "Lesser" and youre still talking to me, that implies you should also ask Ultra with your own rational. This is a forum, no reason you cant also tag him in the same posts @Ultra like this
 

Sky

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This is the second time sky has accused someone based on unsolicited defense
You call it unsolicited defence, I call it "there's literally no legit reason to sus this person so why are you sussing them"
 

Sigismund

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You can talk to us both at the same time
@Sigismund

Now in response to this, you've insisted my vote on you is both the same as yours (it's not), and then is inherently scummy, and now you're of the position that the act is so scummy, it cannot possibly come from town looking to force something early to get the ball rolling, and must exclusively come from scum. Of course, you have not adequately qualified any of this from my point of view. In summary, I think your vote is largely OMGUS dressed up with a reason that is, frankly, not very well thought through. Where do you go from here?
Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say your vote was the same as mine, I said it was worse. And no I called you scummy for believing in 3rd man theory, as the only thing that ever does is fuck town over,
 

Ratchet

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Were both here (Ultra and I), were both active for now, if its only "Lesser" and youre still talking to me, that implies you should also ask Ultra with your own rational. This is a forum, no reason you cant also tag him in the same posts @Ultra like this
I just outlined why - your vote carried the greater risk of the above, hence why I took more issue with your vote than his, It doesn't imply that at all, I'm specifically contending that your vote created the risk of her caving to pressure early, and your vote was worse in this regard than Ultra's simply because of the number of votes. Your response to this is then to tell me that you can't possibly reconcile what I'm saying as coming from anything but scum. Not good.
 

Ratchet

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Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say your vote was the same as mine, I said it was worse. And no I called you scummy for believing in 3rd man theory, as the only thing that ever does is fuck town over,
Yes you did:
My guy, youre a pot calling me a kettle on that.
This turn of phrase is to establish equivalence between two things.

Also, I'v enow outlined exactly what my issue with your vote was, you have no excuse to be referring back to "muh 3rd vote theory".
 

Sigismund

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I just outlined why
No you didnt. You have not made any reasonable or rational argument on why youre solely focused on me when in this format you can talk to multiple people at once, and by your own words you took issue with his vote. Youve doubled down on that as well, calling his vote "less ergerious" in a prior post and here, yet nothings stoppping you from just talking to us both at once
 

Sigismund

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Because you focused on me rather than Ultra or Ichigo, one of whom did the exact same thing I did but you haven't so much as quoted him.

Yes you did:

This turn of phrase is to establish equivalence between two things.

Also, I'v enow outlined exactly what my issue with your vote was, you have no excuse to be referring back to "muh 3rd vote theory".
You missed my actual post on why I found your vote more scummy
 

Sigismund

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Yes you did:

This turn of phrase is to establish equivalence between two things.

Also, I'v enow outlined exactly what my issue with your vote was, you have no excuse to be referring back to "muh 3rd vote theory".
Then you have no reason to be bringing up 3rd man theory when yes that was the basis of your problem with me
 

Ratchet

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No you didnt. You have not made any reasonable or rational argument on why youre solely focused on me when in this format you can talk to multiple people at once, and by your own words you took issue with his vote. Youve doubled down on that as well, calling his vote "less ergerious" in a prior post and here, yet nothings stoppping you from just talking to us both at once
Yes I did. You can't just insist it didn't happen because you aren't registering it. My argument is perfectly within reason. I think his vote is less egregious and I can reconcile it very easily as within character for him. You do not have this going for you. Instead, you keep wanting me to go back to Ultra as if suspecting you means I must suspect him - ignorant of the fact apparently that you are two very different players. I'm well aware that I can talk to him alongside you - I have no reason to do so.
 

Kurumi

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Interesting where this has lead to. I've never seen Sigismund posting so much in a single phase before.
 
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