I was also scum that game!
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Aurelian is sheeping me on my read so not much to comment on. I did comment on his play before that tho in response to tweet, cos he said that Aurelian is scum and I thought Aurelians entrance was pretty towny
I don’t have any reason to not think he’s town still
I still think lind is a good shout for scum!
Okay, looking through the Poyser's entrance, I would give him a solid top tier.
from the looks of the wagons/direction, it comes off heavily like the people that decided to play for the first half of the phase are all under suspicion while the people catching up are getting away scot-free!
i cant read melkor well but i tend to agree with lind's earlier point that he kind of dug his heels in the ground with his reads and play opposed to adjusting based on the incoming suspicion. i dont think it's overtly scummy to not have a clear direction in a phase most people aren't playing in and just follow someone onto someone you have as null.
i dont really view anything lind did as scummy. ratchet's point about them not making their typical town reads seems like he just skipped the first 2 pages because im pretty sure that's exactly what he used to read fuji, who is one of the few he has any meta with. he also used a similar approach for gad. so not really sure where that accusation is coming from.
gram also agreed with it despite, as lind pointed out as well, lind having more town reads than scum ones at that point. also town reads into the void of inactivity are not going to generate anything, which is essentially what he told tweet(aka being stubborn on bachi wont yield anything but a pivot onto something else might cause a reaction and more activity). again not inherently scummy in terms of where the thread was at the time.
most likely feel like voting gad or gram at the moment. gram because i think he was quick to follow both ratchet and poyser on their points. his biggest contribution and aggression was aimed at ekko and then died off from there.
gad because vibes and his play is just reminding me of his previous game's scum play. cant recall the name but it's whatever game cubey shot me n1 as vig(i think sky's game).
vote gad
so ya, ill start with this.
@Gadministraitor i didnt really give you much to defend against so ill instead ask you how you feel your play has come across this game.
i cant read melkor well but i tend to agree with lind's earlier point that he kind of dug his heels in the ground with his reads and play opposed to adjusting based on the incoming suspicion. i dont think it's overtly scummy to not have a clear direction in a phase most people aren't playing in and just follow someone onto someone you have as null.
i dont really view anything lind did as scummy. ratchet's point about them not making their typical town reads seems like he just skipped the first 2 pages because im pretty sure that's exactly what he used to read fuji, who is one of the few he has any meta with. he also used a similar approach for gad. so not really sure where that accusation is coming from.
gram also agreed with it despite, as lind pointed out as well, lind having more town reads than scum ones at that point. also town reads into the void of inactivity are not going to generate anything, which is essentially what he told tweet(aka being stubborn on bachi wont yield anything but a pivot onto something else might cause a reaction and more activity). again not inherently scummy in terms of where the thread was at the time.
most likely feel like voting gad or gram at the moment. gram because i think he was quick to follow both ratchet and poyser on their points. his biggest contribution and aggression was aimed at ekko and then died off from there.
gad because vibes and his play is just reminding me of his previous game's scum play. cant recall the name but it's whatever game cubey shot me n1 as vig(i think sky's game).
vote gad
so ya, ill start with this.
@Gadministraitor i didnt really give you much to defend against so ill instead ask you how you feel your play has come across this game.
why not scrutinize him now then?
poyser played catchup and called 'illogical' things out. it isn't hard to call those things out, especially if he's scum. it can in fact be a point of focus. wouldnt call him town on anything he's done so far.
Yoho
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No not really if sussing someone equals scummy then everyone is scummy
if you weren't planning on voting lind in this same post can you explain why youd point this out to him opposed to letting it develop and going from there? as in maybe he might have done that down the line. instead youve basically said "hey this is why im not town reading you fully yet, can you tell me why youre not doing this"? like if youre voting him then sure, go all in with the case but this is half in while giving him an out to explain why he's missing something in his meta.
this was our convo last game in regards to you omgusing someone sussing you.
you sussed someone that sussed you and when said they could be mistaken you just said it could still make them scum and that it's a common tactic in deceit to focus attention elsewhere.
can you explain your evolution from last game to this game on being more open minded on those that sus you?
which town are pointing the finger at one another?So far seems to be multiple towns pointingthe finger at each other however if I absolutely needed to pick a suspect I'd start with Aurelian, Ekko and Poyser and will be looking into them more has the game progresses
Man suspecting gram and going for gad. Weak
i could go for either or.
any comments on my comments? if you think it's weak why not go for me if you think im avoiding the harder push to settle for the weaker one.
are you afraid of playing LIVE poyser?
sell me on lind. tell me why im wrong.
sell me on lind. tell me why im wrong.
I was more interested in you and why you decided to go for Gad instead of gram, esp as you had more to say about gram
It’s not enough to make me think you’re scum, and I’d mentally soft read you town based on the fact you had the exact same reaction to Nibel as I did, in the same order and I thought that was a good sign. But you not going for the big dog is kind of the opposite of what I expect from you!
You also only focused on what ratchet said about lind which was disproven, but didn’t really comment on what I said about him
Look at the way lind read both tweet and Melkor, I’ve mentioned it a few times already. He basically read tweet as scum for not prodding more people, then admitted Melkor did this but scum read him anyway so not really sure why he’s so confident on tweet considering the only thing he had on him was something he dismissed for someone else?
Basically his scum reads pretty much entirely come from him disagreeing with their push on bachi. I don’t really see how he could be so confident of bachi being town that early and based on bachi’s play (which was basically nothing) and he said himself he doesn’t even know bachi so it’s not a meta thing or anything. My gut said he was good guying as it was going on and using the fact he knew bachi was town against tweet and Melkor
Yoho
A Simple Man
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i want names m8.
order of operations.
people seem to have a lot of expectations from me based on 5 years ago!
in terms of lind? i didnt really agree on principle and touched on it in that big paragraph post where i think a lot of players that were playing during the inactivity lull of being sussed for it, which isn't really a great method in seeing if they're scum or not as they'll 1) go in circles 2) a lack of people to interact with and meaningful activity will make a lot of it come off as shallow unless they're given a reason to readjust.
i cant recall if lind has responded to this post himself yet and if he hasn't id prefer he do it himself. i have an answer but i wont answer for him.
Rugrat
Caldust
Poyser is right. Thought Magic would be more keen to joust with Odo after last game
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