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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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SupremeZaarin

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You mean Talzin?

Anyways, what is the difference between Disney Nightsisters and Legends one.

I know Disney one has voodoo based magic and wiped out pre empire while the later still thrive post clone wars.
It is actually Witches of Dathomir in legends. Nightsisters being the only faction is one of many instances of Dave Filoni pretty much messing up the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. Gethzerion is the founder of the nightsisters sect. Talzin is just one of the leaders succeeding Gethzerion.

Regarding Disney, I do heard from reviews of Ashoka that the Nightsisters came from another galaxy.

As for magic... There's Charal, one of the nightsisters and is noted to be stronger than both Logray and Morag. These are characters within Ewoks. And there's like a bunch of abilities that are exotic compared to the normal Jedi or Sith would display. As in one of them falls to lava and they got transformed into a lava monster. If only Anakin learned that ability, lmfao.
 
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I'm more laughing no one bought his shit at all even over there, goddamn
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They even brought up Servants Archer could scale to and what he has dealt with(He doesn't scale to Cu Alter but I do like the fact they brought in Cu Alter's Planetary+ Noble Phantasm and it was needed to even punch through Scathath just to really rub it in).
EDIT: I do get why they did that as EMIYA Alter does fight Cu Alter in the FGO SE.RA.PH. Manga and did defeat him but he had Ishtar's supporting him, EMIYA Alter has a wildly different skill set than normal EMIYA and Ishtar had to take a Gae Bolg for him to get the killshot. It wasn't a decisive victory for him alone, all things considered.

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Man what an absolute fuckup of a thread. Word to the wise Astaro:
Servants do actually scale to each other in different works, believe it or not, it's due to this thing called the Throne of Heroes!

And once there, a Servant's power remains STATIC and can never change:

Here, Servants as spirits are complete and can't grow anymore. The more magical energy they have available though, the more able a Servant is capable of harnessing the power they held in life.

Even FGO actually understands this which the point of Ascension is simply allowing a Servant to reach their maximum potential which is in fact canon to gameplay with plenty of examples of Servants going all out with their 3rd Ascension(And even that has it's limits depending on the Servant).

Ultimately, there is zero difference between F/SN Archer, Extra Nameless and FGO EMIYA at the end of the day outside of small difference of circumstances, they are ultimately the same Heroic Spirit and the same level of power regardless.
 

Astaro

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@Xhominid The Apex You got to give me a shoutout Xhom, especially since I got king of derps on Ignore.

Made that thread with limiting Archer to F/SN + Ataraxia only. As in no cross scaling with any other works regardless where hes supersonic-hypersonic and City level at best. I did acknowledge throwing in outside works makes it a stomp in his favor.

If you can, make an account on there and post what you got to say here to there. I’d love to see that sites Vs section get more activity
 
@Xhominid The Apex You got to give me a shoutout Xhom, especially since I got king of derps on Ignore.

Don't feel like it because I feel you would take my genuine answer as an insult.

Made that thread with limiting Archer to F/SN + Ataraxia only. As in no cross scaling with any other works regardless where hes supersonic-hypersonic and City level at best. I did acknowledge throwing in outside works makes it a stomp in his favor.

And I told you why doing that is basically absolutely pointless right? Nasu hilariously made doing the "limiting factors" completely worthless since F/SN with this:

Here, Servants as spirits are complete and can't grow anymore. The more magical energy they have available though, the more able a Servant is capable of harnessing the power they held in life.

There is no different in which version you take from, EMIYA will remain is EMIYA regardless of where you limit him because his feats would remain that way.
Also, Supersonic-Hypersonic and City Tier? My guy, we literally have Respect threads that ONLY use F/SN and HA and EMIYA is at none of those levels...


Caladbolg II Speed = 170,515 m/s or mach 501.087
Caladbolg II Yield = 1.844 megatons

And both Heracles and Medea casually reacted to Caladbolg II(Medea did it when it was even CLOSER to her while Heracles did it from further away and still swatted it down):

This is something Berserker can swat out of the sky too as shown here

Medea herself reacts to it and erects a barrier long before it crosses any significant distance too

So Yuta would STILL be absolutely outmatched.

If you can, make an account on there and post what you got to say here to there. I’d love to see that sites Vs section get more activity

Too lazy honestly and besides, the people basically prove my point a bit better even if someone saying Yuta is Island Tier is lulzy.
 

OtherGalaxy

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:jordangif niggas delusion has reached new heights

don't really get why he's being this way about Elric when he admits he's going off the SB respect thread only

which is missing a lot of information. It's not SB's fault and they didn't do anything wrong, Moorcock's just written way too many books and Atem happened to be a nut who read a huge amount of them for the threads we have here and on FV.
 
don't really get why he's being this way about Elric when he admits he's going off the SB respect thread only

which is missing a lot of information. It's not SB's fault and they didn't do anything wrong, Moorcock's just written way too many books and Atem happened to be a nut who read a huge amount of them for the threads we have here and on FV.

Honestly while I don't blame SB for nor the guy for doing that sort of thing, I DO blame them for not even trying to do the most basic of research most of the time and outright ignoring their Meta Threads even then.

There's only so much of an excuse when there is when you can do research and see if there are any actual respect threads worth a damn and ways to cross reference. I have actually done it plenty of times when I actually tried to do so and I am explicitly a lazy guy at points and if I can do it, someone dedicated to it can easily do it even faster or better.
 

Astaro

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Don't feel like it because I feel you would take my genuine answer as an insult.



And I told you why doing that is basically absolutely pointless right? Nasu hilariously made doing the "limiting factors" completely worthless since F/SN with this:



There is no different in which version you take from, EMIYA will remain is EMIYA regardless of where you limit him because his feats would remain that way.
Also, Supersonic-Hypersonic and City Tier? My guy, we literally have Respect threads that ONLY use F/SN and HA and EMIYA is at none of those levels...


Caladbolg II Speed = 170,515 m/s or mach 501.087
Caladbolg II Yield = 1.844 megatons

And both Heracles and Medea casually reacted to Caladbolg II(Medea did it when it was even CLOSER to her while Heracles did it from further away and still swatted it down):



So Yuta would STILL be absolutely outmatched.



Too lazy honestly and besides, the people basically prove my point a bit better even if someone saying Yuta is Island Tier is lulzy.
Oh well. Bob getting banned on there now too over some political shit slowed things down on there.
 

OtherGalaxy

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Honestly while I don't blame SB for nor the guy for doing that sort of thing, I DO blame them for not even trying to do the most basic of research most of the time and outright ignoring their Meta Threads even then.

There's only so much of an excuse when there is when you can do research and see if there are any actual respect threads worth a damn and ways to cross reference. I have actually done it plenty of times when I actually tried to do so and I am explicitly a lazy guy at points and if I can do it, someone dedicated to it can easily do it even faster or better.
tbh it's a HUGE series so again like, not holding it against them like I don't when people don't know their shit about Transformers (unless they're lying which is different)

This dude on FV was told the SB thread was lacking and just said "No, it looks good enough to me. Elric is bullet level"

If he was familiar with the series on any level he would know the first book ends with Elric resetting the universe (which I'm pretty sure got retconned as it expanded to be the multiverse and so on)
 
Oh well. Bob getting banned on there now too over some political shit slowed things down on there.

I'll think about it to be fair but GaRbS will get mad at you for what I will do if I get in there lol.

tbh it's a HUGE series so again like, not holding it against them like I don't when people don't know their shit about Transformers (unless they're lying which is different)

Again it's not an excuse if you make no efforts in even trying to do so yourself. It's like looking at a 2 year old Respect Thread of an ongoing series and thinking "Yep, that's good enough for me".
While I did bring up SB, I'm talking about the lack of using their own Meta-Threads to back up their evidence despite people doing exactly that. You have no idea how many times I've seen people get Textures in Fate wrong despite someone making a Meta-Thread about it correctly(This also includes Flowering's TTGL thread and how he got info of how the series is and they still refuse to use it, same with the TES thread which also has full on documentation).

This dude on FV was told the SB thread was lacking and just said "No, it looks good enough to me. Elric is bullet level"

Then the dude shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt and should have looked harder.

If he was familiar with the series on any level he would know the first book ends with Elric resetting the universe (which I'm pretty sure got retconned as it expanded to be the multiverse and so on)

And that's why I refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt lol.
 

King of time

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tbh this is a BIG movie so again, I'm not against them like I don't when people know nothing about Transformers (unless they're lying which is different)

This guy on FV was told the SB thread was missing and just said "No, it looks good enough to me. Elric is bullet level"

If he's familiar with the series on any level, he'll know the first book ends with Elric resetting the universe (which I'm pretty sure was retconned as it expanded multiverse, etc.)
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...c-of-melniboné-corum-erekosë-hawkmoon.973945/. I found this
 

OtherGalaxy

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I just checked the Sailor on the Seas of Fate comic and it has the Four Who are One slicing through tens of thousands of higher dimensions of the universe they were in lol


bullet level eternal champions my ass
 
And honestly speaking of that... I might as well go over GaRbS' point too because it wouldn't be fair otherwise:


1-That's just empty and delusional boasting from Tesla, he's not strong enough to blow up a whole continent.

1. That's actually false because ONLY Edison calls out Nikola Tesla's point as a "boast" and even it's treated as more "I'll get to that later" because Edison and Tesla don't really like each other at all.

2. Edison explicitly notes that Nikola Tesla is stronger than him when it comes to his Lightning and was the huge difference in restricting the 28 Demon God Pillars before Arjuna popped up. Even doing THAT would give Tesla Continental+ scaling on it's own considering how strong a single Demon God Pillar is.

3. Nikola Tesla in a "berserk" state fought both Kintoki and Mordred just fine and both of them would be Continental+ well and near into the Planetary range, something ChaosTheory also agrees with due to being able to scale to Servants that can destroy the Mud of the Holy Grail meaning he would be Planetary+:


2-EMYA does not scale to the Cu Alter in the America Singularity, much less so when using his Noble Phantasm. Scathach's statement also says nothing about the nature of that "destroying the world", whether it'd be one hit, or several, or how long would it take, or even what she means by destroying the world.

And this is that typical "ignoring the very obvious point to instead pretend it was something different" shit SB is known for :maury

No, my dude, Scathath is very, very clear in that Cu Alter's Noble Phantasm can "Destroy The World" as in, it would literally destroy the Texture they are on:



There is no "It would take one punch or a hundred" nonsense, Scathath is VERY clearly following the fact that Cu Alter punched her once in the gut and she states he has enough power to destroy the Texture they are on. This is why SB is such a fucking joke at it's core and it may actually be why I may make a WorstGen account: just so I can tell GaRbS how he can't understand simple Reading Comprehension:jordangif

3-EMIYA does not scale to either Thia or Enkidu.

I don't even understand this line of questioning, no shit EMIYA doesn't scale to Enkidu or Thia in the typical sense... but he doesn't need to to be well beyond Yuta's level:diolaugh

EMIYA would be Continental, Continental+ while Enkidu would basically be Star level and so would Thia. None of this changes a single thing for how screwed Yuta is. Of course this is GaRbS here so we are with the impersonation that Enkidu and Theia are somehow Continental or barely there because reasons.

4-EMIYA also does not scale to Nrvnqsr Chaos, there is no evidence he'd be capable of destroying the Soil of Genesis.

Now that's retarded, he absolutely scales to Fabro Rowan:tiredofthis

Again, it's typical SB shit that has him completely misunderstand that his Soil of Genesis is a shitty knockoff to Tiamat's Primordial Sea in every way, including durability that only reaches that level... in Kagetsu Tohya with him long dead.
 

OtherGalaxy

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I'll think about it to be fair but GaRbS will get mad at you for what I will do if I get in there lol.



Again it's not an excuse if you make no efforts in even trying to do so yourself. It's like looking at a 2 year old Respect Thread of an ongoing series and thinking "Yep, that's good enough for me".
While I did bring up SB, I'm talking about the lack of using their own Meta-Threads to back up their evidence despite people doing exactly that. You have no idea how many times I've seen people get Textures in Fate wrong despite someone making a Meta-Thread about it correctly(This also includes Flowering's TTGL thread and how he got info of how the series is and they still refuse to use it, same with the TES thread which also has full on documentation).



Then the dude shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt and should have looked harder.



And that's why I refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt lol.
tbh he is mainly just upset because JayK didn't agree with the recent attempts to boost Digimon Adventure so that's where all these weird takes are coming from lol
 
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