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Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

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Dr_Professor83

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If I were to theorize a scum motivation on Magic’s part here it would actually be thinking Ratchet is indie and not wanting him to be alive to shoot scum
 

Magic

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Like I said, this was already your prior argument for him, so what changed for you? In plain english

1) the path to victory made more sense as scum than as indy

2) at first I thought you twobwere aligned but that doesn't make much sense from his position

3) I also noticed people just largely standing around and not bothering weighing in on our positions. The apathy makes no sense for scum as they either side with you or side against you for credibility but not do neither for no real end result

4) everyone giving half ass poe answers from Tempest to Ratchet to all the inactives. Ratchet also hasn't really tried to do anything about solving his other poe all game. His entire focus has been on us and this argument.

5) what Luka said about him pushing a world view whereas you're just trolling and telling people to follow a legacy.
 

Magic

Resplendent
Unless I'm wrong ratchet as scum is also more perceptive than Ultra. As in these hints at random roles is something I think he's more likely to pick up on his own but idk if ultra is any good at it
 

Magic

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Also frankly this is what poyser did with Tempest and I in your game without as much intervention. The paranoia does go back to the fact the last two times I've done this it didn't go well.
 

Ultra

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1) the path to victory made more sense as scum than as indy

2) at first I thought you twobwere aligned but that doesn't make much sense from his position

3) I also noticed people just largely standing around and not bothering weighing in on our positions. The apathy makes no sense for scum as they either side with you or side against you for credibility but not do neither for no real end result

4) everyone giving half ass poe answers from Tempest to Ratchet to all the inactives. Ratchet also hasn't really tried to do anything about solving his other poe all game. His entire focus has been on us and this argument.

5) what Luka said about him pushing a world view whereas you're just trolling and telling people to follow a legacy.

Point 1 is my hang up, because I'm not sure why you're concluding this now rather than yesterday if it really jived

Point 3 is good but fails to explain why your focus is on Ratchet who has been taking strong positions and not the gawking onlookers who you're equating him with, obviously I'm a bit biased because I find myself largely in agreement with him, but I made this same observation and I think the natural conclusion is the people fencesitting are more likely scum here. Is Ratchet fencesitting?
 

Magic

Resplendent
Point 1 is my hang up, because I'm not sure why you're concluding this now rather than yesterday if it really jived

Point 3 is good but fails to explain why your focus is on Ratchet who has been taking strong positions and not the gawking onlookers who you're equating him with, obviously I'm a bit biased because I find myself largely in agreement with him, but I made this same observation and I think the natural conclusion is the people fencesitting are more likely scum here. Is Ratchet fencesitting?

I tried hypothesizing a world where you weren't scum and you shit on me.

He's not the one to fence sit but actively take advantage of a situation. This feels like someone securing the win with back to back mislynches
 

Ratchet

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So you want to tell me that Magic is the very figure of frustration having not gotten his ly ch and watched the town get to the brink, but when it really matters, he wants to lynch elsewhere, just when he has all the conditions to get the flip he wanted.

Is that a believable progression? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that deadline is in 6.5 hours and a no lynch is objectively beneficial to scum. Especially scum caught in a thunder dome.

Again I've pointed out again and again how his positions are ingenuine and inauthentic and here he is, getting cold feet. It's weak as hell, town Magic isn't weak as hell. He's concerned with his survival and this is the optimal route for that.
 

Ratchet

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I mean there is really nothing else to say. If you come out of this thinking Magic is town and plays it like this then you are beyond persuasion.
 

Magic

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If anyone wants to check my games, any of the last 3 will show me being indecisive and reconsidering my position. Literally all recent town games. This isn't the gotcha he thinks it is!
 
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