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Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Yup, I came away from that post after Ekko pointed it out pretty convinced he is Indie. It shores up some doubts I had too. His play simply makes way more sense as Indie that knows he has no chance of winning from this position and thus is treading water. The fact he hasn't claimed wincon either tells me he is probably not pro-town or someone we can keep around.
aight idk what we're doing then, let's get his claim? I'd wager the impression most people have rn is that you're against the wagon on luka and that is giving people cover to go against it as well and emboldening luka to not claim. that's my perception.
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
also luka was complaining about the thread being stale and wanting to move on but the main wagon claiming is literally a part of how that happens. we either lynch or consider other options with the time we have left. just sitting around refusing to claim is how things stagnate.
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
What do you think of Luka being Indie? Don't really think this stands up anyway - if you think that regarding Magic then what do you take from Magic's posts so far? He hasn't given a single town read, and his only real interaction with me is saying I'm doing too much and asking me about whether I think there is an execution mechanic. It's not exactly setting the world alight to me, so I'd love to hear what your issues are with my conclusion there. Being generous with town reads is a given - most of you can't play town very well so I have to stretch and ask myself if it makes sense for you to do as scum. If I feel like the answer is no then you get a town read. It gives me something to work with.

Performative isn't really a good enough description. I've outlined what I'm looking for from him and why I think I haven't seen it, there is an element where my vote is made not to lynch but to gauge his reaction, which you could argue is performative as it presents conviction of a read that isn't there, but I've been pretty transparent about this. My attempt to prod you for thoughts is just that - you are not above giving something to the game, I voted you because I haven't liked how much of a backseat you had taken so far and your response to this is to take every facet of my play an interpret it in the most uncharitable way you possibly can. I am not impressed.
I don't think about a world where Luka is indy, idk how you can read somebody exactly indy on d1 to begin with. If he happens to be indy, I still don't like your play individually.

Gotta be honest, I didn't bother to really follow the argument Ultra and you were having, but just glancing over it it looked like Ultra went with the world where Luka and you were scum, which obviously you push back against and eventually wind up voting him. It strikes me as the most cookie-cutter "I'm pushing back with a vote because I have to" line of play.

I'll give you that Magic isn't doing shit so far, however I feel like you've had it out from him from your first post onward which looks to me like what I said, starting with the conclusion. I don't think much of anything was going on by the time you first mentioned Magic so idk why you'd single him out except to make a point that ooo look I'm not a fan of Magic. Could also be that I got my timeline wrong as usual tho.

How much of a surprise is it really to you that I'm taking a backseat?
 

Ratchet

Moderator
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aight idk what we're doing then, let's get his claim? I'd wager the impression most people have rn is that you're against the wagon on luka and that is giving people cover to go against it as well and emboldening luka to not claim. that's my perception.
He is 2 or 3 votes away from being lynched, he isn't really emboldened to claim because the longer he goes unclaimed the more likely his lynch is set anyway. I'm not too interested in his slot because I don't think he's working for scum but yes he should probably claim.
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
I mean, I'm refusing to claim since it's not even 24h into day and my claim gives town zero information. There is 0 scum incentive for me refusing to claim here. In addition to that, the post is "wolfy", not "clowny"; from a town POV it's genuine thoughts so don't call my posts "clowny" please when the only clowny thing here is the fact that you think I make such a transparently wolfy post as scum, thank u!
There is definitely scum incentive for you to refuse claiming, it gives you more time to think of a fake. Plus there's always a chance people just look at the clock, refuse to blind lynch you less than 24 hours in, move elsewhere and forget all about you.

I for one don't think I'm willing to entertain this nonsense refusal to claim

vote lynch Luka
 

Luka

Polarized Noob
also luka was complaining about the thread being stale and wanting to move on but the main wagon claiming is literally a part of how that happens. we either lynch or consider other options with the time we have left. just sitting around refusing to claim is how things stagnate.
See the problem is the fact that 1. My role doesn't give town any new information or reason to doubt the claim and 2. The only cases against me are kinda bad meta? The funny thing is I see the case against me being indie more than I see the case against me being scum, especailyl from people like your POVs.
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
See the problem is the fact that 1. My role doesn't give town any new information or reason to doubt the claim and 2. The only cases against me are kinda bad meta? The funny thing is I see the case against me being indie more than I see the case against me being scum, especailyl from people like your POVs.
your opinion on the case is irrelevant. you have to claim.
 

Luka

Polarized Noob
There is definitely scum incentive for you to refuse claiming, it gives you more time to think of a fake. Plus there's always a chance people just look at the clock, refuse to blind lynch you less than 24 hours in, move elsewhere and forget all about you.

I for one don't think I'm willing to entertain this nonsense refusal to claim

vote lynch Luka
Sorry, my claim doesn't give town any new information and I'm spiteful enough not to claim at this point. Also pretty horrible logic given I can just uh, use my flavor safe claim if given one.
 

Ratchet

Moderator
Moderator
I don't think about a world where Luka is indy, idk how you can read somebody exactly indy on d1 to begin with. If he happens to be indy, I still don't like your play individually.
Ah well, you should read the part where I go over it then!
Gotta be honest, I didn't bother to really follow the argument Ultra and you were having, but just glancing over it it looked like Ultra went with the world where Luka and you were scum, which obviously you push back against and eventually wind up voting him. It strikes me as the most cookie-cutter "I'm pushing back with a vote because I have to" line of play.
Ultra hasn't explicitly scum read me, and if you're not even reading the interactions, how are you forming conclusions from it? This is Sky-esque.
I'll give you that Magic isn't doing shit so far, however I feel like you've had it out from him from your first post onward which looks to me like what I said, starting with the conclusion. I don't think much of anything was going on by the time you first mentioned Magic so idk why you'd single him out except to make a point that ooo look I'm not a fan of Magic. Could also be that I got my timeline wrong as usual tho.
I singled him out because he didn't do any of his usual starters, and seemed to just be trolling with the "we should lynch in the first 24 hours" post. So I prodded him and nothing he has done has made me think he's town. Hence my comments. You could argue that I'm calling him out for things that could apply to others, and sure, but I don't think he's held to the same standards those are.
How much of a surprise is it really to you that I'm taking a backseat?
Not at all. Once again, you are not above playing the game, hence my attempt. To get you to play the game.
 

One Last Username

Distinguished
Technically you have
Like, I would greatly prefer not to at this point out of spite lol. Me claiming will do 0 for my slots wagon I think.
So you are a vanilla townie then?

Make it official.

Swear on Dracula’s coffin right here, right now that you are town.
 

Luka

Polarized Noob
Like, I claimed. Now people on the wagon will go "You wouldve claimed earlier if you're town!" Despite us having precident for that no being the case (Jailkeep game, I think my first game on here I refused to claim? Last game is another example). The only proper case I have on me is for me being a hostile indie which I can see the angle from and I guess early parts of Ultra's case in which I misinterpreted his stance which is more reasonable than his actual one.
 
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