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  1. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Have I missed something that has massively nerfed RWBY since volume 6? Goku's pre-training feats were calculated and he is very low gigajoules at the time and barely FTE. Ruby was doing stuff at that level in Volumes 1-6, what has changed?
  2. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    to be fair, they're using pre-training Goku
  3. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    SB seems weird, they either are pretty accurate with a select few verses but never discuss it anymore (Xeelee, the Culture, Doctor Who, Halo, etc) or grotesquely innacurate and downplay or wank it to high heaven and those are the only threads they ever care about
  4. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    VSB stans light novels, visual novels, and weebshit Spacebattles stans Xeelee Sequence and the Culture (Not that they get their rating wrong. SB is actually quite accurate with more sciency sci-fi series stats it's just they downplay everyone else in comparison) They stan furr shit
  5. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Classic Mandrakk was like Omni++ and so might be able to beat a few especially with his plot hax, but most of the other characters are Black metal shittiers and the cosmology is too fucked to scale properly I assume
  6. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Isn't Galactus like a multiversal tier telepath and magic user?
  7. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    While I conditionally buy universal/multiversal 40k (As in only in the warp and places subsumed by the warp), the idea that they are always "outerversal" is just retarded, but muh dimenshunz
  8. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I was using any marvel character there tbh, didn't specificalyl intend to mean Hyperion there
  9. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Keep in mind I am talkin about Post Crisis here. Post Flashpoint seems inconsistent to all hell. Pre-Crisis is just yeah. DC, contrary to what is claimed, is actually not too badly inconsistent. Almost any time Superman has dealt with a cosmic there is very heavy context behind it that makes superficial claims fall apart fast. Same with almost any other DC Herald. Feat scale is also more consistent. They do sub-planetary stuff with ease or mild inconvenience at worst, can handle planetary stuff fine, and stellar/solar system level feats are usually treated as a rare awe-inspiring feat the heroes scrape through. Most universal stuff is as esoteric as you can get: "This character lifts a book with infinite pages but supposedly its weight is nonexistence or something IDK nothing makes sense in the realm they lift it as the plot falls apart where they're at" or "This character fought this one guy who fought this one guy who represented space" or "Superman destroys realities, but...
  10. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I think my problem with DC is I am absolutely incapable of accepting DC has unjustifiable/unexplanable inconsistencies and I am dead-set on creating a coherent narrative/study on feats, scaling, and cosmology when DC is only barely better than Marvel when it comes to scaling and has recently gone out of its way to shit on all these things
  11. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Goku is in an awful spot where he could one-shot any average herald in brute strength but is so disadvantaged in speed and hax he has no real tier in it.
  12. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    They once did Madara vs Goku but claimed Madara could win with hax cuz speed equallized. The admins realized this was retarded and locked the thread.
  13. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    CIS vs Humanity should be clearcut Since this is Disney, CIS have similar firepower (IIRC heavier turbolasers get low gigatons in Disney), lower range, "dumber" and less versatile ships than UNSC/ME Humanity, but an obscene numbers advantage, much better starfighters, and far superior FTL. Logistically they have this in the bag.
  14. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I want them to use more Halo, Doctor Who, Xeelee, and 40k. They tend to be better with those verses, or at least Dragon Ball cuz they're so bad with it it's fun to debate, but noooop, just boring fateshit
  15. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Time Lords low end weapons dismantle planets, stars, star systems, and galaxies Weaponry in TARDISes can cut apart universes, split and merge timelines, etc Higher end weaponry can destroy the entirety of N-Space and it's infinitely divergent universes as a result The best weapons they have are a threat to the entire multiverse which is more like Megaverse+
  16. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    Still seems a little ridiculous to give Terra multiversal range
  17. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    So the scaling makes no sense? Chaos was just a knight who created a time loop to grow power over ages Kefka gained universal(?) power over magic and declared his ambitions to destroy all of existence Neo-Exdeath tapped into and took control over a multiversal nexus of nonexistence Ultimacea wanted to compress time into a singularity Chaos being the most powerful makes little sense Still weird they don't mention that her main/canonical equipment is the Gauntlet and Apocalypse
  18. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    I was looking at Terras profile and I feel some of her powers and abilities might be sus https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Terra_Branford > Multiversal range based on magic FFV characters can do > Subjective reality manipulation based on FFIV And also doesn't include her being 19 for the second half of the game or equipment she canonically/is definitely intended to use specifically like the Gauntlet or Apocalypse
  19. Maddie

    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

    As it stands Seiya is sextillions to septillions c by VSB numbers so this is just overkill
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