https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/ccc-gilgamesh-vs-xeno-goku-2260587/?page=2 from what i understand the moon cell takes energy from the sun and seraph was destroyed by excalibur?.(I just want to get more information on the nasuverse and opinions, don't take it as a spite or...
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@Thegoldenboy2188 @Paxton Get ready for me to tear this dude a new asshole because now? Now we get to the real dumb shit:
now i am going under the assumption that everything is canon to each other and there is still a single unified canon (there isn't) but just to really drive home the point you can defend it even with nonsensical shit from Extella, which does not fit with Extra lore at all.
How doesn't anything from Extella fit Extra Lore? At all? How is there not a single Unified Canon? Like I don't even know how you can say this about the fucking Nasuverse which has unified canon throughout many of it's series taking place on the same timeline(Fate/Zero is primarily used for the Anime UBW and Heaven's Feel series but not to the VN F/SN, El-Melloi Case Files seems to definitely be in the Anime Canon but the Events itself(Waver being El-Melloi the 2nd) happens in multiple time trees.)
Nameless's Backstory explicitly uses a timeline in Fate/Extra, Gilgamesh remembers CCC and Hakuno and even how CCC ends simply wraps back to Extra and the fact that The Last Encore is a Bad End that happens at Extra. This is basically bitching that Extella doesn't 100% follow Extra the way he wants it to.
Extella states that there is no energy in "this dimension" to contain the continuous propagation of timelines? well guess what? this is entirely irrelevant to the Moon Cell, which has HIGHER dimensions, with its Universe of Record stated to have entirely different laws that operate different compared to the rest of reality. and the Moon Cell contains infinite possibilities YET to be put into effect into the real world that it simulates and stores. even if we say the normal multiverse has finite timelines this has no bearing in the Moon Cell AT ALL.
...This is so wrong, I don't even know where to begin...
1. The Moon Cell doesn't create timelines, it analyzes and looks through hypothetical universes.
2. The Moon Cell explicitly DOESN'T HAVE INFINITE ENERGY(The Regalia, which is literally the power of the Moon Cell unbound which 1/3rd was enough for Nero and Tamamo to NOT get instantly murdered by most Heroic Spirits or Altera), was straining to allow Saber Venus to even EXIST):
3. The people INCLUDED the Moon Cell and the issue of the energy problem is due to making certain that the Human Order would survive to get off the Planet:
This is something of required reading if you want to know more of the Nasuverse... Universal Mechanics atleast for the Human Order.
tldr: the Moon Cell has higher dimensions and the Universe of Record has entirely different laws and rules that have nothing to do with the rest of the main reality and simulates and stores infinite possible futures not YET put into effect in reality.
"it's just a moon because MOON Cell." yeah no. we see Nasuverse have celestial bodies contain entire realities and shit. The Reverse Side of the World as shown in MBAA has a moon and an entire cosmos in it, with it being a different layer of the planet not even containing the laws of physics.
He's right in that Nasuverse Planets and the Moon Cell are capable of having entire Realities. The Reverse Side of the World even in the oldest texts explicitly mention that it's a literal other world... this doesn't mean that it's a literal UNIVERSE:
I'm sorry man, I only have access to so much information on Fate atm, I'll look further into what is nonsense and what isn't when I can. Didn't even know it destroyed a Man Made Island just by trying to land, that's actually extremely impressive. EDIT: Apparently the person is adding more stuff...
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Reverse Side of the World [Others] The place where the evil dragon Fafnir finally arrived at the very end of the novels. The Phantasmal Races, having understood that the Age of the Gods was over, ceded the Earth’s surface to humans and moved to this place. The world where humans currently live (including the laws of physics) is like a fabric that thinly extends across the surface of the planet. Beneath that fabric exist the planet known as “Earth”. On the other hand, the Reverse Side of the World is the world as it was before humans lived there… that is, the fabric of the era where Phantasmal Races strode the land. In other words, the Earth is the bottommost layer of the planet, and it is covered by the “Reverse Side of the World”—the place where the laws of the “world” as it once was reigns, and covering that is the “Present World”.
In the Reverse Side of the World, the Holy Grail cannot activate its function of “using the Third Sorcery”. In the first place, that function was for the sake of granting Shirou Kotomine’s wish. In other words, it is programmed to target humans, and doesn’t count Phantasmal Races as valid targets.
Jeanne d’Arc is a Heroic Spirit who, from the start, lost her human body long ago. Because of that, the chances of her reaching the Reverse Side weren’t completely zero… However, that is merely the kind of “not zero” like, as a comparison, somehow managing to pass through a wall with the tunnel effect, but the Throne where Heroic Spirits Exist is cut off from the time axis, so she effectively had an infinite number of attempts to try.
Now, does Space exist in many of the textures? YES. Does this mean that it's an actual Universe? NO. It just means that there is a large amount of Space in each Texture like there can be an Afterlife and a "Hell" for each different Texture in the same place.
yeah though like these same people think Void is only defensive Servant level, ignoring the fact it never mentioned void, ignoring the fact that entire long statement has been massively contradicted and rectonned, ignoring her stated to be the second strongest in the franchise and ignore how GO states she's a shadow of her real self and ignores her connection to the Root shit making normal parameters meaningless even in GO. these people go through insane mental gymnastics to avoid multiversal Nasuverse or placing anything above Grand Order. they then proceed to wank Servants as LS to FTL casual planet busters.
Bro, Void wank... AGAIN(How many times this keeps happening despite that being clear as fuck.
But somehow, we wank normal Servants as LS to FTL Casual Planet Busters, that somehow makes no sense but anything connected to the Moon Cell is somehow Multiversal/Outerversal? You shitting me?!
@CrossTheHorizon @ChaosTheory123 Like please, look at this shit if anything else and tell me how absolutely fucking stupid this line of thinking is.
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