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Dr. Watson said:
No, not really

It'll be entertaining indeed

What I'm expecting is the wagon will slow to a crawl after Gram and Xenos' votes and yours, which is why we're gonna put pressure and stress a time limit to avoid the majority of counterarguments used to obviously stall, just as it happened before

This very small window of time I'm advising is mostly so we can use hindsight to observe behavior surrounding the wagon
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So high pressure in a very limited time
 
Dr. Watson said:
So yeah, it's Aurelian and Nacho

Aurelian today, him tomorrow

If Aurelian flips town...
(yeah sure of course this will happen, despite evidence to the contrary. Totally town locked. Confirmed town, back off guys.
:dyoutlov)
...then I probably made an egregious mistake with these reads lmao

Let's do it, baby
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Wait how im town locked if Aurelian flips town, I think that there are 2 scums left, it should be over
 
Bachi said:
The poe is small right now, and the only scenario I see Gram scum here is if he hard bussed his team, and this is a possibility, but yeah,
Aurelian was a priority yesterday, and the lynch went in Gads direction just because Gramms tagged people to vote for him. The wagon lynch formed in half an hour. Im pretty sure Aurelian was the main point of discussion last day.
This is why I said a scum Gram- town Aurelian scenario is impossible, I say this cuz Aurelian was sussing Gram last day from what I remember.
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No, the lynch happened because of Town consensus and cooperation
You perhaps are correct that tagging people to vote assisted in the wagon, but it mostly assisted in speeding up the wagon. It was a concession, he waved the white flag. It's the reason why he self-hammered.

I was actually waiting for the Gram deepwolf theory. That's actually something I wanted to use as a wait to bait people (apparently you are the people) into trying to press an agenda against him. I am almost certain scum went for Flower first because of this exact thing. It's a last ditch attempt to throw off reads and sprinkle paranoia around Gram's slot. It's why he has survived past his usual expiration date - he's needed to get a mislynch on him and persuade newer players not paying attention to the thread.

Let's entertain this even further:
The RDK lynch. Let's say with your deepwolf theory and him having thread control that this was an intentional move. Perhaps he even understands that he has to cement his position in the thread by bussing teammates in order to gain my trust and increase town credibility for him in my eyes, because he knows I won't underestimate him. Let's say he switched it up which would force him to flip his mates like pancakes, lest I get suspicious over just how many town mislynches seem to happen.

You fail to ask this very simple question: Do you really believe Gram would put in that tremendous amount of effort with a 4D play that could potentially get him caught in his own web and backfire?
Gram is capable of deepwolfing and doing higher level plays. The question is whether he'd put in that much effort to win a game and tango with me and Flower.
The answer is that it's extremely unlikely. He doesn't have complete understanding of my thought processes, either, so him being able to tango by aligning himself with my own plays and direction decreases. The only one who could tango would be someone like Polar orcastrating (harhar) things at this level.

Re: Aurelian sussing Gram
That isn't an argument. Like nowhere near an argument. You're basing it off... what? That Aurelian sussing him further confirms Gram is a deepwolf?
Do you understand why this argument does not hold up
 
Nibel said:
So high pressure in a very limited time
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Correct

I'll let you do the honors before Gram

Pressure time limit also means that it unfortunately leads to Xenos moving line molasses and we have to wait for his vote, here's to hoping he gets on sooner
 
Dr. Watson said:
No, the lynch happened because of Town consensus and cooperation
You perhaps are correct that tagging people to vote assisted in the wagon, but it mostly assisted in speeding up the wagon. It was a concession, he waved the white flag. It's the reason why he self-hammered.

I was actually waiting for the Gram deepwolf theory. That's actually something I wanted to use as a wait to bait people (apparently you are the people) into trying to press an agenda against him. I am almost certain scum went for Flower first because of this exact thing. It's a last ditch attempt to throw off reads and sprinkle paranoia around Gram's slot. It's why he has survived past his usual expiration date - he's needed to get a mislynch on him and persuade newer players not paying attention to the thread.

Let's entertain this even further:
The RDK lynch. Let's say with your deepwolf theory and him having thread control that this was an intentional move. Perhaps he even understands that he has to cement his position in the thread by bussing teammates in order to gain my trust and increase town credibility for him in my eyes, because he knows I won't underestimate him. Let's say he switched it up which would force him to flip his mates like pancakes, lest I get suspicious over just how many town mislynches seem to happen.

You fail to ask this very simple question: Do you really believe Gram would put in that tremendous amount of effort with a 4D play that could potentially get him caught in his own web and backfire?
Gram is capable of deepwolfing and doing higher level plays. The question is whether he'd put in that much effort to win a game and tango with me and Flower.
The answer is that it's extremely unlikely. He doesn't have complete understanding of my thought processes, either, so him being able to tango by aligning himself with my own plays and direction decreases. The only one who could tango would be someone like Polar orcastrating (harhar) things at this level.

Re: Aurelian sussing Gram
That isn't an argument. Like nowhere near an argument. You're basing it off... what? That Aurelian sussing him further confirms Gram is a deepwolf?
Do you understand why this argument does not hold up
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„You fail to ask this very simple question: Do you really believe Gram would put in that tremendous amount of effort with a 4D play that could potentially get him caught in his own web and backfire?`
I mean yeah, he is one of the people who put the most effort in this game, bussing is not 4D play tho, the cop died early, originaly I tought that a team Gramm Nibel would make sense, but if this was the case they would have ended the game last day
And yeah I want to lynch Gramm, this is why I have him as my strongest town read
 
Bachi said:
„You fail to ask this very simple question: Do you really believe Gram would put in that tremendous amount of effort with a 4D play that could potentially get him caught in his own web and backfire?`
I mean yeah, he is one of the people who put the most effort in this game, bussing is not 4D play tho, the cop died early, originaly I tought that a team Gramm Nibel would make sense, but if this was the case they would have ended the game last day
And yeah I want to lynch Gramm, this is why I have him as my strongest town read
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My scenario had nothing to do with bussing in itself, it's how he would build up to the bus on a scum mate in this theoretical. The 4D play would be finding a way to divert the wagon from forming as long as possible, not immediately pushing the wagon when he has power and thread control to manipulate Flower. He did not do this.
Why would he bus a teammate from the getgo for the sake of town cred when it means he loses numbers and more thread control as a result?

It doesn't guarantee he would risk that.

For scum, bussing is the absolute last resort when their numbers are reduced. Which means yesterday's lynched forced scum to bus as they had no other choice - it's not an outcome Gram of all people would prefer.
Experienced and good scum themselves will not solely rely on thread control either. Let's say he sent a kill on Flower (lol) instead of actual flipped scum. Only reason he would do that is if he worked under the assumption that Flower caught on to him and would convince me that the deepwolf theory is correct.

I don't know his scumplay exactly, but what aligns with his own scumhunting style. RDK's mislynch is explained by obstinance, not agenda.
 
Bachi said:
@Nibel You said that Aurelian was trying to frame you, why are you not voting him?
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Why are you shading him after the criticisms of his play have been slowly debunked?

More importantly, why are you trying to slow down the process and go against what was agreed upon?

The plan was GAD first, then Aurelian

Stop it
 
Bachi said:
Im close to scum lock you, any last words
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seems to be the way this game will elapse. Xeno and Aurelion are not likely to be on a team imo. Nibel checked Xeno and saw no kill potential.

I'm frankly confused why 2 power roles claims are still alive. Particularly one that can check for kill potential but that's a different matter.

And let's face it, I don't kill Flower ever. Flower didn't suspect me a single time this game except paranoia after we discussed how much FM I've played.
 
Flower said:
You are not gonna put me down.
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It's right here, transparent in, so in our face that it'd be difficult to assume they had zero intention to put the bullet in her brain stem. She was into something with her solve.

Scumplay and the kill points to them, again, being cheeky and proving Flower wrong for lulz (among other reasons, of course)

I am more confident in this rather than it being a randomized, poorly thought out kill
 
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