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Bleach Thread

So Klub Outside was further updated but I'll the truly interesting questions here:

Q387:
Could it be that Engetsu is actually not Isshin's Zanpakuto, but actually another Shinigami's? Like maybe it belongs to one of the Five Great Noble Families? Is the reason why no Shinigami noticed the connection to Isshin after seeing Ichigo use Getsuga Tensho because Isshin's Engetsu is known as a fire type while the Getsuga Tensho ability releases condensed reiatsu in the form of an energy slash?
A387:
The reasons for why no other Shinigami thought about Isshin after witnessing Getsuga Tensho are as follows:
- Isshin's Getsuga Tensho is different from Ichigo's, in that it is a close ranged attack in which both fire and reiatsu are released in the form of a slash.
- Captains don't have any chances of learning about each other's named techniques outside of fighting together on the battlefield and training together.
- During the Soul Society arc, Ichigo only ever speaks the name of his technique in front of Byakuya.
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Honestly? I can buy this... no seriously, I can. Izuru had no fucking clue of Rangiku's Shikai which lead to his defeat in the Soul Society Arc, Kenpachi Zaraki had no idea of either of Komamura's or Tousen's Shikai or Bankai, Renji only seen Byakuya's Shikai and that was due to him being with him for years and the number of Captains and Lieutenants that even know each others Shikai and Bankai are hilariously thin.

Isshin's Getsuga Tenshou in the Anime and Manga... at first comes off similar to Ichigo's... except he wasn't using Engetsu against Aizen vs. when we saw him actually use Shikai against White. In Bleach: Brave Souls, Engetsu is actually coated in fire in his art for the game:
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So it makes sense that his version of Getsuga Tenshou in Shikai is vastly different than Ichigo's... but even IF we say that he still can use the normal variant, the ONLY people would see him ever do one closest to Ichigo's is Rangiku and Hitsugaya, who never seen Ichigo until after the Soul Society mess has finished and even then, only truly connected the dots when they visited Ichigo's home(Where Kubo stated that's when they sensed Isshin, their former Captain).

And as Kubo said at the cherry on top, Ichigo only ever used Getsuga Tenshou by name at Byakuya, he may have used it against Renji but it was a nameless slash with far less power attached to it. So there's no one who would be able to connect the dots whatsoever... smooth answer Kubo... smooth answer.

Q389:
I'd like to know how Shutara Senjumaru got promoted to the Royal Guard. What did she create? At first I thought it must've been the Shihakusho that landed her the promotion, but I don't really see it as being that important to garner her such an opportunity.
A389:
It's actually the Shihakusho.
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Okay this one is funny but it does make sense it's the Shihakusho that made Shutara a Royal Guard Member considering creating the Zanpaktou made Ogetsu a Royal Guard Member, so why not the clothes for Shutara as well?
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
So Klub Outside was further updated but I'll the truly interesting questions here:



Honestly? I can buy this... no seriously, I can. Izuru had no fucking clue of Rangiku's Shikai which lead to his defeat in the Soul Society Arc, Kenpachi Zaraki had no idea of either of Komamura's or Tousen's Shikai or Bankai, Renji only seen Byakuya's Shikai and that was due to him being with him for years and the number of Captains and Lieutenants that even know each others Shikai and Bankai are hilariously thin.

Isshin's Getsuga Tenshou in the Anime and Manga... at first comes off similar to Ichigo's... except he wasn't using Engetsu against Aizen vs. when we saw him actually use Shikai against White. In Bleach: Brave Souls, Engetsu is actually coated in fire in his art for the game:
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So it makes sense that his version of Getsuga Tenshou in Shikai is vastly different than Ichigo's... but even IF we say that he still can use the normal variant, the ONLY people would see him ever do one closest to Ichigo's is Rangiku and Hitsugaya, who never seen Ichigo until after the Soul Society mess has finished and even then, only truly connected the dots when they visited Ichigo's home(Where Kubo stated that's when they sensed Isshin, their former Captain).

And as Kubo said at the cherry on top, Ichigo only ever used Getsuga Tenshou by name at Byakuya, he may have used it against Renji but it was a nameless slash with far less power attached to it. So there's no one who would be able to connect the dots whatsoever... smooth answer Kubo... smooth answer.



Okay this one is funny but it does make sense it's the Shihakusho that made Shutara a Royal Guard Member considering creating the Zanpaktou made Ogetsu a Royal Guard Member, so why not the clothes for Shutara as well?
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Doesn't this kinda contradict the fact that in order to become a captain you have to show off your bankai to them? Or did Aizen just go that route in order to put them under hypnosis?
 
Thegoldenboy2188 said:
Doesn't this kinda contradict the fact that in order to become a captain you have to show off your bankai to them? Or did Aizen just go that route in order to put them under hypnosis?
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Remember, there are 3 Methods to become a Captain, not one. Aizen only did the 1st method, the other 2 are(But I will list the 3rd one too)
  1. Captain Proficiency Test (隊首, taishu): A test which requires the ability to perform Bankai. Nearly all Shinigami become captains using this method. At least three existing captains, including the Captain-Commander, have to witness the test.
  2. Personal Recommendation: To have personal recommendations from at least six captains and approval from at least three of the remaining seven.
  3. Trial by Combat: To defeat a captain in one-on-one combat with at least 200 witnesses from the captain's division. This method is seen as being the exceedingly rarest and the least refined of the three. The method is commonly looked down upon by some captains as barbaric compared to the other refined methods. This method allows one to bypass having the mastery of Bankai or other possible abilities which a captain would otherwise be required to have knowledge of, for it allows no judgment from captains who would require those skills as a prerequisite to join their ranks. Though rare in other Divisions, the Eleventh Division has been set up to exclusively utilize this method, with each captain attaining their rank by killing the predecessor.[15]
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And yes, this was brought up in the Soul Society Arc so it's not something Kubo pulled out of his ass as remember, Kenpachi Zaraki became a Captain by killing the previous one and Urahara was made a Captain through Personal Recommendation in Turn Back The Pendulum.

Nothing showed you need to use your Shikai or Bankai in Personal Recommendation or Trial By Combat(especially if you outpower your opponent hardcore like Zaraki did).
 
Huh, I didn't think the first to were mutually exclusive, I thought that what was needed was Bankai and recommendation. Also doesn't the third way only apply to squad 11?
 
Thegoldenboy2188 said:
Huh, I didn't think the first to were mutually exclusive, I thought that what was needed was Bankai and recommendation. Also doesn't the third way only apply to squad 11?
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Yes, the first two are not mutually exclusive by any means(Aizen explicitly used the 1st Method to get everyone into Kyoka Suigetsu and Urahara used the 2nd method). Don't forget that Yourichi actually has a TERRIBLE relationship with her Zanpaktou and that's why she never uses it in any fashion, yet she's still made Captain regardless.

The 3rd Method isn't actually JUST for Squad 11, anyone can do it, it's just that Squad 11 has it as a principle that you must defeat the previous Kenpachi in combat to be the Captain of Squad 11.
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
Okay this one is funny but it does make sense it's the Shihakusho that made Shutara a Royal Guard Member considering creating the Zanpaktou made Ogetsu a Royal Guard Member, so why not the clothes for Shutara as well?
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idk, her getting into the RG squad just because she made the uniform seems kinda lame, if Shihakusho's were super durable clothing like the Oken then it would make sense, but they're just clothing. Compared to Ogetsu who literally makes the weapons everyone uses.
 
Thegoldenboy2188 said:
idk, her getting into the RG squad just because she made the uniform seems kinda lame, if Shihakusho's were super durable clothing like the Oken then it would make sense, but they're just clothing. Compared to Ogetsu who literally makes the weapons everyone uses.
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To be fair, the clothes matter to the Shinigami in a major fashion... it allows Ichibe to pilfer more Black for his Bankai :diolaugh

But on a serious note, the shit she has made does seem to actually have some actual properties in the final arc.
 
Yeah, finally watching the 1st episode, it's definitely more beautiful looking than I gave it credit for(Virtually every characters' hair color is what Kubo always intended it to be, Ichigo's Shikai is Yellow-Gold but his Bankai is basically damn near pure Black but with some White in there(Most likely so it contrasts better).

Honestly, it wasn't a bad 1st episode and a return to the World of Bleach and the start of the final Arc. Surprisingly, there was some changes that happened but more to help the flow of the story better:
1. We actually see the Quincy Medallion actually affect Ichigo's Bankai... just a bit rather than completely take it away. Meaning it could potentially do it even to him but not in an actual battle sense.

2. We get a major hint of Sasakibe's Bankai and thus his warning that the Quincy can take Bankai make more sense.

3. The fight scene between Ichigo's Group and the Hollows and Ebern was actually expanded upon a bit(not really enough to matter but more than just a quick few panels and Ichigo just jumping into Bankai for the hell of it).
 
And the 2nd episode came out and it confirmed a massive fan theory and showed a significant scene of how Tier Harribel was defeated:

Yhwach did it. Not only does the scene heavily show the flashback of their "fight" but Quilge explicitly stated Yhwach defeated Tier Harribel in battle. He also hints that if the Tres Bestia surrendered, they would be working with Tier Harribel meaning that we may get closer to an actual explanation of why Yhwach took her in alive even compared to how they usually do business.

The 2nd episode was also paced very well besides and further shows how much more improved the arc is under the Anime Team actually having the time and structure to do this sort of thing rather than doing it while the arc is still happening.
 
I also have to mention that there is a RIDICULOUS amount of spoilers in the OP which isn't new as it's 6 years since the Manga ended and they did spoilers since the trailers so...

But it's honestly jarring since it's supposed to be 13 episodes per Cour with a 3 month break for each so...
 
Looking at FV, I'm honestly flabbergasted seeing people complain about the Anime not including Harribel fighting against Yhwach as if that matters in any fashion when:

1)It's surprising it got elaborated on at all(I legit expected them to not even focus on it and leave it hanging as a whole)
2)It legit doesn't matter to the story at large(Harribel gets destroyed by Yhwach, why do people expect her to do ANYTHING meaningful to him and not expect it to basically make him look weaker?)

Like people are going "This is how all of the added scenes will be" and it's like "Dude, this isn't even the actual fight scenes, calm the fuck down" type shit.
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
Looking at FV, I'm honestly flabbergasted seeing people complain about the Anime not including Harribel fighting against Yhwach as if that matters in any fashion when:

1)It's surprising it got elaborated on at all(I legit expected them to not even focus on it and leave it hanging as a whole)
2)It legit doesn't matter to the story at large(Harribel gets destroyed by Yhwach, why do people expect her to do ANYTHING meaningful to him and not expect it to basically make him look weaker?)

Like people are going "This is how all of the added scenes will be" and it's like "Dude, this isn't even the actual fight scenes, calm the fuck down" type shit.
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Yes. I thought it was weird they wanted Halibel vs. YAWCH.

I had to do a quick research on Halibel to see if she was anything significant. But no it was how I remembered it being.
 
B Rabbit said:
Yes. I thought it was weird they wanted Halibel vs. YAWCH.

I had to do a quick research on Halibel to see if she was anything significant. But no it was how I remembered it being.
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She really isn't. She's meant to be the big dawg of Heuco Muendo(which makes sense as Grimmjow isn't on her level yet and the other Vasto Lordes and Arrancar stay in line with her meaning she must have gotten stronger since) and Yhwach takes her down and puts HM under his control showing how absolutely fucked everything is.

Otherwise, we don't get much of why Yhwach captured her and that's it.
 
Well we were at least DIRECTLY SHOWN that Harribel survived at least one attack, which left a sizeable crater in the wall behind her. That alone is an impressive feat considering the attack came from Mustache himself. :maybe

BUT on FV they didn't even acknowledge that and just treated it the same as they've always done.
IE. "Not sure why Yhwach even bothered with her himself when several Sternritter could have done the job."

I did actually like that they eliminated the confusion from the manga, by giving Quilge a title card, giving away his Sternritter status. Something the manga obviously didn't until he used his schrift/vollstanding. It just means less confusion for confusion's sake for 1st time viewers.
 
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