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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Paxton

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(Fate) Xiang Yu vs Heracles

Xiang Yu wrecks him with minimal effort. His fighting style hard-counters Berserkers and the physical gap is nowhere what it was between Berserker and Saber. Sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, lasers, fists, hooves and armor spikes means that he has 10 ways to kill Heracles with just his...
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(Fate) Xiang Yu vs Heracles

Xiang Yu wrecks him with minimal effort. His fighting style hard-counters Berserkers and the physical gap is nowhere what it was between Berserker and Saber. Sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, lasers, fists, hooves and armor spikes means that he has 10 ways to kill Heracles with just his...
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"The resistance IF IT EXISTS."

There's no IF, Heracles is pretty clear that he can never be killed by the same method twice, Archer had to use six different Noble Phantasms (presumably) to take those lives. The only exception is if you use an attack so powerful that it kills him multiple times in one shot, as is what happened with Caliburn (near as I can tell anyway).

I don't know Xiang Yu so I don't know if he can beat Heracles or not, although I would ask what about his fighting style "hard counters" Heracles?
 
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There's no IF, Heracles is pretty clear that he can never be killed by the same method twice,
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Practically , that's true, tehnically , not so much.

You kill Herc with an attack , he comes back and he gets like +100 resistance to that attack.
If you can use the same attack but power it up enough that it bypasses that additional resistance, you're good.
 
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yeah that guy alex cross/lucas hood (believe it's him) had actually posted this on many forums, although few people actually listen lol. He did get VSB to delete their demonbane pages though :kobeha
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I tried to explain they are using a fan-fictional character but they won't listen. Most people didn't even play the sequel but instead made stuffs out of their ass.
 
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Paxton said:
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(Fate) Xiang Yu vs Heracles

Xiang Yu wrecks him with minimal effort. His fighting style hard-counters Berserkers and the physical gap is nowhere what it was between Berserker and Saber. Sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, sword, lasers, fists, hooves and armor spikes means that he has 10 ways to kill Heracles with just his...
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Again, they keep believing Heracles is made of tissue paper and you need to be just a percent stronger every time to bypass God Hand when that's not how it works in reality(As Rey stated, you need to basically amp that by virtually 100% of the last hit if you are using the same method. Artoria Alter can bypass it because her Mana Burst is just that bullshit even compared to other Mana Burst users)
Xiang Yu is HILARIOUSLY strong(He's Dragon Tier just in basic operations) but Heracles is still canonically more bullshit than him despite literally having virtual bullshit precognition.
 
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Again, they keep believing Heracles is made of tissue paper and you need to be just a percent stronger every time to bypass God Hand when that's not how it works in reality.
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Basically, just because an attack IS A rank doesn't mean every single one is gonna kill him or even cut him. He's still a fucking tank with legs at the end of the day.

Not to mention Heracles still has a higher strength stat and equal agility, so it's not like it's just gonna be easy for Xiang Yu to land these hits, even with his pre-cog
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Xiang Yu is HILARIOUSLY strong(He's Dragon Tier just in basic operations) but Heracles is still canonically more bullshit than him despite literally having virtual bullshit precognition.
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So he could take a few lives but Heracles would still beat him out in the end? That's kind of the impression I got from reading Xiang Yu's wiki anyway.
 
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So he could take a few lives but Heracles would still beat him out in the end? That's kind of the impression I got from reading Xiang Yu's wiki anyway.
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Basically, it would be a long tanky fight imo where it might come down to energy consumption and how that affects their respective masters.

Herk has the higher hand because Xiang's NP sucks ass and wouldn't do shit to Herk and so he would be only using his physicall shit against Herk and even if we were generous enough to assume his physical shit would be enough to bypass Herk's durability and GH, niggas forget that he can bullshit willpower himself to stay alive if the situation is desperate enough.

Xiang is durable enough to the point where he can eat high level NPs without breaking a sweat so probably , the only way he goes down if Herk uses the best god damn Nine Lives he ever pulled off ,which might or not be enough and so we circle back to this being a long , drawn out fight .
 
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Adamant soul said:
Basically, just because an attack IS A rank doesn't mean every single one is gonna kill him or even cut him. He's still a fucking tank with legs at the end of the day.

Not to mention Heracles still has a higher strength stat and equal agility, so it's not like it's just gonna be easy for Xiang Yu to land these hits, even with his pre-cog
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Yeah, that's the actual point here as it's basically 2 bullshit tanks(Xiang Yu straight up took a TNR Clarent Blood Arthur with no damage and called the shit minimum, it's the most based shit ever :oldryoma) going at each other until one drops and Heracles has the advantage in God Hand and Xiang Yu has his bullshit Precognition.

Here, Mordred explicitly goes against waiting for the rocket to deliver it's payload and suggests that she uses her Noble Phantasm to destroy it before it lands and Ritsuka agrees.

Here, it's shown that despite it being a direct hit, Xiang Yu comes out of the wreckage practically unharmed and notes that Mordred's True Name Release Clarent Blood Arthur was a "minimal" threat level(considering CBA is an A+ Noble Phantasm, that's an ABSURD amount of power to be called "minimal" all things considered, especially with how Noble Phantasm and Strength ultimately differ by a massive amount)
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So he could take a few lives but Heracles would still beat him out in the end? That's kind of the impression I got from reading Xiang Yu's wiki anyway.
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In a sense but it would be far, FAR more of a drag down brawl unless we give Heracles Nine Lives.
Still would be a cool match to see.
 
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Well isn't that just strange...
 
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Saitama and Garou Vs DBS 17

Saitama and Garou as of the newest chaptes Vs Android 17 With the newest feats as of the manga can they now take Androud 17 from DBS? Bloodlusted
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sb seems also lurks my posts, remember

i said expect saitama and garou vs top blue goku and vegeta thread

but

hey

they used toaster 17, in order to not make it that obvious :mjlol
 
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