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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Is it that hard?

The Nasuverse isn't as hard or difficult as people say it is, the actual issue is that as Type-Rey states, it's easy to misunderstand how concepts work in the Nasuverse.

For example, Shiva's 3rd Eye is a conceptual version of Shiva destroying the Universe... but it's framed in such a way that if he EVER used it on anything but the Universe, whatever he killed will be designated as a Universe(Imagine Sefar being like Kama is...). This is why Kama, combined with her connection to Mara already, could do the shit she does and have a virtual Universe within her... but why she also died to Parvarti's Trishula Shakti in the end, not because it has "Universal Power" but because Shiva killed her once so a simple recreation can do the same thing.

It's similar to how Heracles' God Hand makes him a legit nightmare to the point he's undefeatable in the right HGWs but if you so much as nick him with Hydra Poison(somehow), he will literally lose God Hand's protection instantly and all of his lives but the one since he ultimately "died to it"(He didn't but it was why he ultimately just killed himself).

It doesn't help that power can ultimately overcome conceptual defenses as well as shown a few times in FGO and even in the Anime and Manga when it comes to certain feats. So you end up with people who think the Nasuverse is more Conceptual Than Power... when it's closer to Dragonball Z in which Power > Conceptual in the right circumstances and other times, concepts can defeat other concepts which can lose to other concepts.
If you want the absolute best example of this, see Sefar vs. Excalibur at full blast, Sefar killed virtually all of the Divine Spirits and various gods and Machine Gods with her bullshit conceptual powers from the Umbral Star... and was killed due to Excalibur's simple but insane power.
 

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That list had to remind me of No Game No Life never getting a second season :catsad

Pretty bad reason to not get into the series. Just watch the first season still and if you want to know further, read the novels from where the anime ended
 
Rest of the list is old shows that for one reason or another have aged poorly today. Can’t say I disagree with most of the list even
 
I meant this comment.
No arguments or threads stick out yet, so just a reminder that Indiana Jones Shiva is way stronger and cooler than Record of Ragnarok Shiva.


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How hard is it to be stronger than Shiva from Ragnarok?

The Nasuverse isn't as hard or difficult as people say it is, the actual issue is that as Type-Rey states, it's easy to misunderstand how concepts work in the Nasuverse.

For example, Shiva's 3rd Eye is a conceptual version of Shiva destroying the Universe... but it's framed in such a way that if he EVER used it on anything but the Universe, whatever he killed will be designated as a Universe(Imagine Sefar being like Kama is...). This is why Kama, combined with her connection to Mara already, could do the shit she does and have a virtual Universe within her... but why she also died to Parvarti's Trishula Shakti in the end, not because it has "Universal Power" but because Shiva killed her once so a simple recreation can do the same thing.

It's similar to how Heracles' God Hand makes him a legit nightmare to the point he's undefeatable in the right HGWs but if you so much as nick him with Hydra Poison(somehow), he will literally lose God Hand's protection instantly and all of his lives but the one since he ultimately "died to it"(He didn't but it was why he ultimately just killed himself).

It doesn't help that power can ultimately overcome conceptual defenses as well as shown a few times in FGO and even in the Anime and Manga when it comes to certain feats. So you end up with people who think the Nasuverse is more Conceptual Than Power... when it's closer to Dragonball Z in which Power > Conceptual in the right circumstances and other times, concepts can defeat other concepts which can lose to other concepts.
If you want the absolute best example of this, see Sefar vs. Excalibur at full blast, Sefar killed virtually all of the Divine Spirits and various gods and Machine Gods with her bullshit conceptual powers from the Umbral Star... and was killed due to Excalibur's simple but insane power.
By the way, here I will give my explanation. It does not claim to be accurate, but please listen to it:

For example, Shiva's 3rd Eye is a conceptual version of Shiva destroying the Universe... but it's framed in such a way that if he EVER used it on anything but the Universe, whatever he killed will be designated as a Universe(Imagine Sefar being like Kama is...). This is why Kama, combined with her connection to Mara already, could do the shit she does and have a virtual Universe within her... but why she also died to Parvarti's Trishula Shakti in the end, not because it has "Universal Power" but because Shiva killed her once so a simple recreation can do the same thing.
Oh. No, Kama didn't become the universe just because she was killed by the Third Eye. This is the root cause.
The Third Eye burned Kama. Fully. Body, mind, soul, origin and even concepts. Leaving only nothing. But it was not easy to completely kill the divine spirit. As a result, Kama continued to exist as Ananga, or "incorporeal". What can be a container for "Nothing"? Anything, except that Shiva completely destroyed even the possibility of owning the body. As a result, Ananga made something equal to the Third Eye with his body. Simply put, he connected himself with the universe. Thus, getting a body.
No, this does not mean that anyone whom Shiva burned with his Third Eye will become analogous to the "universe". Here is a small excerpt.
○身体無き者:EX
カーマの別名の一つ、『アナンガ(身体無き者)』を示すスキル。

かつてターラカという魔神が神々を苦しめていた。
それを倒せるのはシヴァとパールヴァティーの子だけであると知った神々だったが、そのときシヴァは修行に集中するあまり、パールヴァティーにまったく目を向けていない状態であった。
これに困った神々はカーマを派遣し、シヴァに情欲の矢を撃つことで夫婦の愛を取り戻させようとした。
だがカーマのその行為にシヴァは激怒し、第三の目を開いてカーマを焼き殺してしまったという。

万物を、すなわち宇宙を破壊する神であるシヴァの力を直接その身に受け、
灰とされてしまった神性の末路とは―――
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○ Bodyless: EX
A skill that represents one of Kama's aliases, "Ananga (the bodyless)".

Once upon a time, a demon named Taraka tormented the gods.
The gods knew that only Shiva and Parvati's son could defeat it, but at that time Shiva was so focused on his training that he didn't pay attention to Parvati at all.
The deities, embarrassed by this, sent Kama to force Shiva to restore their love by shooting her with arrows of lust.
However, Shiva was enraged by Kama's act, and it is said that he opened his third eye and burned Kama to death.

Directly receiving the power of Shiva, the god who destroys all things, that is, the universe,
What is the end of the divinity that has been turned to ashes?

By the way, what's the problem with Parvati? Her Noble Phantasm is after all the power of Shiva, which he gave her in the end.

and was killed due to Excalibur's simple but insane power.

Did Siriel happen to possess you? Since when did a multidimensional sword created literally from the hope of all mankind with the highest level of Sacrament suddenly become just a powerful piece of iron?

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Anyway, forget all the bullshit I wrote. We are here to have a good time.

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@shiny I'm not gonna fight you but to avoid Rey having a massive conniption when he returns:

Did Siriel happen to possess you? Since when did a multidimensional sword created literally from the hope of all mankind with the highest level of Sacrament suddenly become just a powerful piece of iron?

Let's NOT use that, translation is still faulty and can change at any time with the official translation and dimensions don't mean shit in the Nasuverse.

But yes, in comparison to attacks that can never miss and will warp causality to go first, attacks that are infused with the Authority of The Gods and so on? Excalibur at full blast is just using the Energy of the Planet itself to fire a massive blast... that's it.

Oh. No, Kama didn't become the universe just because she was killed by the Third Eye. This is the root cause.
The Third Eye burned Kama. Fully. Body, mind, soul, origin and even concepts. Leaving only nothing. But it was not easy to completely kill the divine spirit. As a result, Kama continued to exist as Ananga, or "incorporeal". What can be a container for "Nothing"? Anything, except that Shiva completely destroyed even the possibility of owning the body. As a result, Ananga made something equal to the Third Eye with his body. Simply put, he connected himself with the universe. Thus, getting a body.
No, this does not mean that anyone whom Shiva burned with his Third Eye will become analogous to the "universe". Here is a small excerpt.

I mean yeah, I did skim that part along but yes, it was ultimately circumstantial Kama became what she is but that's it.

By the way, what's the problem with Parvati? Her Noble Phantasm is after all the power of Shiva, which he gave her in the end.

Because normally, it wouldn't be enough to instantly kill a Beast. Kama only instantly died to it because as of how the Nasuverse works, Shiva killed her and thus, she doesn't do well to anything owned by Shiva in the same way Muramasa Swords are basically death incarnate for anyone connected to the Tokugawa in a conceptual fashion.

But I'll leave you to it otherwise.
 

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Despite being Studio Trigger’s relatively new project, Darling in the Franxx had short-lived popularity. Back when it premiered in 2018, this over-the-top mecha series was the talk of the entire community.
HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SAY A1 PICTURES DID THE STORY?!
 
@shiny I'm not gonna fight you but to avoid Rey having a massive conniption when he returns:



Let's NOT use that, translation is still faulty and can change at any time with the official translation and dimensions don't mean shit in the Nasuverse.

But yes, in comparison to attacks that can never miss and will warp causality to go first, attacks that are infused with the Authority of The Gods and so on? Excalibur at full blast is just using the Energy of the Planet itself to fire a massive blast... that's it.



I mean yeah, I did skim that part along but yes, it was ultimately circumstantial Kama became what she is but that's it.



Because normally, it wouldn't be enough to instantly kill a Beast. Kama only instantly died to it because as of how the Nasuverse works, Shiva killed her and thus, she doesn't do well to anything owned by Shiva in the same way Muramasa Swords are basically death incarnate for anyone connected to the Tokugawa in a conceptual fashion.

But I'll leave you to it otherwise.
No problem. We're not debating here. I expressed my point of view. Corrected what I thought was wrong. I feel good. It's time to keep looking at idiots.
 

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Beerus gets a space-cutting attack to the dome the instant the fight begins and that's that.
 
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No problem. We're not debating here. I expressed my point of view. Corrected what I thought was wrong. I feel good. It's time to keep looking at idiots.

Honestly, you probably seen me and Rey when we are really at our worst so yeah, it's ultimately just corrections and nothing less, so yeah.


:giogio

Beerus gets a space-cutting attack to the dome and that's that.

I don't understand how that should be the end of Beerus there but okay.
 
Honestly, you probably seen me and Rey when we are really at our worst so yeah, it's ultimately just corrections and nothing less, so yeah.



I don't understand how that should be the end of Beerus there but okay.
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There's only one person saying Fiamma wins in that thread though.

And he's right

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I find it funny how right you were Xhom, since in that thread involving Chaos (a Fate character) and Fiamma, the Holy Right being literally instant and capable of severing space (along with high-end scaling that isn't particularly relevant against Beerus) was actually brought up, yet in this thread it's nowhere to be seen :mjlol
 
I find it funny how right you were Xhom, since in that thread involving Chaos (a Fate character) and Fiamma, the Holy Right being literally instant and capable of severing space (along with high-end scaling that isn't particularly relevant against Beerus) was actually brought up, yet in this thread it's nowhere to be seen :mjlol
Clown world over on SB
 
I find it funny how right you were Xhom, since in that thread involving Chaos (a Fate character) and Fiamma, the Holy Right being literally instant and capable of severing space (along with high-end scaling that isn't particularly relevant against Beerus) was actually brought up, yet in this thread it's nowhere to be seen :mjlol

Me and @Blade are right because yeah whenever it comes to the Nasuverse, they will literally invent shit or will suddenly be truthful about how a downplayed character can absolutely win... but put them in a different topic and suddenly, all of that shit is forgotten.

There's a reason why I brought up EMIYA replacing Lady Nagant and then compared it to SS Arc Byakuya vs. MHA including Nagant and Current Arc Dabi and suddenly, Lady Nagant goes from being completely beyond EMIYA in every way... to losing miserably to SS Arc Byakuya.

Clown world over on SB

Basically. There is no real bottom anymore for SB and neither is it for FV, it's just seeing how much worse both get.
 
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