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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Paxton

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Well, to be specific, I don't believe it was the Archangels themselves being described, but rather the spell that BFR'd them back to Heaven/Briah
 
... Isn't there a similar character in Nasu? That Maxwell Demon dude. Infinite magic but not really much else.

Except GudaGuda4 actually deconstructs the shit out of that because Maxwell's Demon actually DOESN'T have access to Infinite Energy, it only comes off that way till it hits full on "pointless" after that.
Basically, it comes off like it HAS Infinite Energy... but it then needs a catalyst to keep it going... then it needs more and more and more until it's effectively worthless due to the costs being too astronomical to keep up for any length of time.

So no, Maxwell's Demon isn't capable of creating Infinite Magical Energy and more obviously, the man cannot hurt anyone period.
 
To make it more obvious:


A Noble Phantasm of nothing but contradictions that creates close to infinite amounts of magical energy with the power of science. Strictly speaking, this Noble Phantasm's operation needs magical energy to move Maxwell's Demon so it cannot be called a perpetual motion machine. This is essential to the theory that denies Maxwell's Demon as it is understood: "To distinguish between momentums, energy is necessary."[2]

Ryoma and Maxwell break the group out of the Faith's prison. Meanwhile, the Chaldea Clan's castle and territories come under attack by the Faith's forces. While escaping via the sewers, Ryoma explains the original goal was to unify the country, but history was distorted by the Grail. Makuzu ignored the goal when he aquired the Grail early. He then used it to summon Maxwell, who was granted a Spirit Origin in the Singularity. Maxwell explains his Master plans to use the infinite mana of his Noble Phantasm to win the simulations's Holy Grail War. Since he cannot fight, Maxwell was used to create Heroic Spirit Soldiers. The group then arrive at a chamber where Maxwell's Noble Phantasm is stored inside a mana reactor. The device operates by extracting mana from the children gathered from the region. Makuzu arrives to explain children are essentially sacrificed once a month. Maxwell explains the simulation couldn't supplement the infinite scope of his Noble Phantasm, so it became a Singularity and encroached on reality. The reactor then begins producing Black Giants without limit. Understanding it's futile to continue fighting, the group retreat to the surface.[1]

So again, it's basically not even remotely infinite Magical Energy because it still is within the 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics and ultimately, it would take too much to even keep it going(As this synopsis is clearly skipping the part that Maxwell's Master would have to continue getting more and more children even outside of the Singularity itself to keep Maxwell's NP going) until it reaches a dead end.

I can't blame people for believing it is genuinely Infinite Magical Energy though.
 

Paxton

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Well, to be specific, I don't believe it was the Archangels themselves being described, but rather the spell that BFR'd them back to Heaven/Briah
“It is not unusual to see angels before him.
Thus, the archangels of fire, water, wind, and earth will naturally descend to guard him!!”
One wielded a sword, one carried lily flowers, one protected an adventurer, and one guarded the gates of hell.
All of a sudden, there were four of those winged higher beings.
Each of them carried enough firepower to obliterate this unclean world.

The pressure from Gabriel alone had caused the entire world to audibly strain to the breaking point when driven down from heaven by Angel Fall.

The fires of hell erupted from the depths of the earth and rejected the protector of their
gate.
Just like a red light covering up red writing.
Once one collapsed, the others were dragged down with it.
The four angels dissolved like a false image and the massive flames continued on to burn Mathers.
“The son pointed his finger. The evil ones belonged in the pigs. And so the legion of evil spirits left the man’s body and entered the pigs, preserving the peace of this world.”
They were twisted.
And distorted.
All of the flames Aleister had created gathered at a single point, took the shape of a
lightbulb-like incandescent bronze pig, and then charged at the silver girl who had supposedly created them.

As soon as he stabbed it from above with his wand, it burst and spewed flames in every
direction.
The pure firepower may have rivaled a nuclear weapon.

- NT21
 

Adamant soul

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its wild how people think that JUST having good regeneration means you win fights
Yeah it's like the concept of "needing enough of a body to regenerate from" doesn't occur to them, that or just ignoring that, regeneration or no, there are still ways of instantly killing the person and render the regeneration moot.

Biggest offender is probably the Bleach crowd consistently pretending Ulquiorra's regeneration is actually something that would save or even significantly help in most instances. The guy can't heal any major organs, a brain snipe/stab or just decapitation is still instant death for him.
 
its wild how people think that JUST having good regeneration means you win fights
Yeah it's like the concept of "needing enough of a body to regenerate from" doesn't occur to them, that or just ignoring that, regeneration or no, there are still ways of instantly killing the person and render the regeneration moot.

Biggest offender is probably the Bleach crowd consistently pretending Ulquiorra's regeneration is actually something that would save or even significantly help in most instances. The guy can't heal any major organs, a brain snipe/stab or just decapitation is still instant death for him.

The new shit with the extended Sukuna vs. Mahoraga anime fight is now gonna top that to absurd degrees:


You are definitely gonna hear people saying Mahoraga solos because "he can regenerate from being made a blood splatter" when that only happened because Sukuna keeps spamming Cleaves and nothing else over and over and over again.

Just remove the context and believe Mahoraga can just revive from anything and adapt from anything unless you reduce him to nothingness like he's Majin Buu.
 

Type-Rey

Acclaimed
Depending on how good your regen is, you might not necessarily win a battle if that's the only thing you can do but... you are gonna be able to force a stalemate which is better than nothing.

Easy example is put Schroedinger Alucard against any Unga Bunga ( like Kenpachi) fucker that has 0 haxx which is below Planetary.

You can swing and swing till the cows come home... you ain't winning unless the victory condition is idk... first blood or some such shit.
 

this is one of the worst threads


Like what the fuck are we even doing here. Use her actual fucking feats. the fuck is this shit

Absolute retardation and basically how Spacebattles does debates...
The most retarded shit is acting like Frieren would be able to tell how the WAVE BEAM works and adjust her shields accordingly while it's penetrating her barrier at the same time! Something Frieren has never shown she can do in such a moment at all!

Like it's absolutely ridiculous that they are trying to give Frieren so many outs, act like her Zoltraak again can pierce through Samus' Armor and kill her(When nothing shows how or why Zoltraak would work like that against Samus' Armor or hell even Samus herself). Nor is it even putting into context that Samus is fast, stupid fast, bullshit fast even before we account for her Super Speed augment and the fact that even as just a human, she is literally augmented with Chozo, X and Metroid DNA and would be about as Human as an Elf would be...

Meaning there is no reason to act like her, her armor, her weapons or anything is just weak shit especially in regards to Dread's existence.


What the fuck is even happening in this thread anymore?!
 

Bro, the fucking asshurt from daring to point out that yes, Angra Mainyu can solo MHA is the funniest shit I have ever heard.

Your being way too vague explain his hax in detail and why no nasuverse human can beat him and why this applies to anyone in MHA.

Because the Average Mage > The Average Quirk User... and considering Bazett, someone who can rightfully solo MHA, can't deal with Angra Mainyu, what chance do they have?

Not what you stated this is what you stated

Back up what you said and show me scans of Angra Mainyu doing anything impressive enough to warrant what you stated about him.

The fuck are you talking about?! You are the one who brought up To Aru characters and Multiversal characters as if that makes your point! Hilariously, people HAVE given you reasons why Angra Mainyu > MHA, you need to prove why that's not the case.


Nah,you see the thing needed here is a little something called feats .

Which he provided, you can't deny that those exist...

How's Servant Angra killing All Might? A human who greatly outstats him?

Angra Mainyu was able to equal out Artoria in a fight... who greatly outstats Ruler Jeanne D'Arc.

Here, Artoria and Angra Mainyu continue clashing. Angra Mainyu keeps getting faster, surpassing his own limits as he does so. Angra Mainyu's using his skill Murderous Intent/Extinguishing Desire. Here, all the same, Artoria continues to throw his strikes aside. Here, Angra Mainyu's Murderous Intent/Extinguishing Desire has increased his speed 100 fold since the fight began to try and match Artoria's own strikes (to no actual avail). Here, Artoria was only on the defensive to figure out what the fuck Angra Mainyu's plan was, wary of Noble Phantasm due to sheer disparity in stats. When she sees he's got no trump card evident, she begins her counterattack. Here, Angra Mainyu w/Murderous Intent/Extinguishing Desire catches Artoria's slash between his sword breaking knives to break Excalibur.

Hell even without it, he was still able to parry her meaning it's not like he's absolutely pathetic without it:

Without Extinguishing Desire/Murderous Intent A

Here, Shirou Artoria and Angra Mainyu clash. Here, for every strike of Artoria's own, Angra Mainyu is able to attack her 3 or 4 times. His strength fails to match hers (while no match, its notable Artoria didn't just plow through his guard, so you can argue those 3 to 4 strikes were enough to act as a partially negating defensive effort).

And again, that's against SERVANTS, not Humans and Mages who tend to have obscene strengths, magic and otherwise and considering Angra Mainyu personally stated he can mop them with ease when he's known to shit on himself just as casually means he's not lying about his simple efficiency.

That said? Here, If Angra Mainyu were to somehow come across the most powerful human ever that even surpasses the power of Heroic Spirits, this would be no problem for Angra Mainyu. Here, Angra Mainyu may be the weakest Servant, but he can defeat the most powerful human because he's the strongest when it comes to fighting humans (so, some kind of conceptual advantage or multiplier). Here in particular, when it comes to human-killing, due to Angra Mainyu's natural inclination, he's second or third best at it when compared to Primate Murder/Beast IV/Fou and ORT/Type Mercurcy (the quality of his murders is the same, but they're both faster than he is)

How's he killing Upgraded Tomura?

Simple, he kills him the same way he fought Artoria... except Tomura would get mugged immediately and change.
 

Salfarc

Paramount



I love how he somehow takes it to being a NLF when GaRbS only compared to MHA humans LMFAO.
It's even funnier considering that... Angra Mainyu literally has a skill that turns him into a Top-Tier Servant for a few seconds and that was the reason he didn't instantly die fighting Artoria in an HA loop:

Death Desire A




His entire legend being is being made to kill Humans on par with Primate Murder(A being that is literally made to defeat Humans by Gaia itself) and only loses to ORT(A being that would shit on most series casually)?



Depends if they was fucking around or being serious from the start to be honest...
Again, even the strongest person can be defeated when they aren't expecting it.



Fucking ironic considering he spent this entire topic not explaining how or why his retarded take of "Not all Servants" doesn't matter when the grand majority basically stomp MHA into dust...




That would imply she would even NEED Luminosite Eternelle which she absolutely wouldn't lol.
I thought this will end easily, didn't everyone agree Jeanne wins? And now you share this link and apparently people still going....Or more specifically they talking about Angra now wtf.


Angra attack and Endeavor just dies. Is upgraded Tomura even have durability of normal human scale?
 

Cool,cool but what's his defence if Tomura/All Might rush him down and smash him through a city block?

He's literally faster than them and can react faster than them, what the fuck is this?

Or in Tomura's case,being Decayed right off the bat?

Yes because that's how Tomura has always acted in character and that it will somehow affect a Servant too at the same time... oh wait.

This is the point where the feats he needs to actually survive any of their attacks to do is kinda needed now.

Considering he survived being damn near bisected by Artoria for a bit, I would say he can easily survive getting decked by any of the AFO/OFA characters...


Then I don't see the point of your your first post at all.

Prove Angra Mainyu can't curse them, you can't just go and say "That's not how that works" when you can literally point at his other Skills and point out how that's a bunch of bullshit.

Seeing as Angry Mango doesn't have the feats for it , then no he actually doesn't kill all of MHA (beyond his "I'm one of the best things for murdering humans alongside ORT and Primate Murder )" hype.

That is literally not how that goes, you fucking muppets! You need to prove he cannot, you cannot use a double negative to prove Angra Mainyu cannot kill humans efficiently when he explicitly can, especially in the series where conceptual powers exist and explicitly fucks people over!

But this is a derail whoops,so guess I'll leave it here.

So you detailed the topic just to bitch about how someone else argued a Servant would lose in your opinion just so you can pretend you have superiority that you don't have? The SB way :tiredofthis
 
I thought this will end easily, didn't everyone agree Jeanne wins? And now you share this link and apparently people still going....Or more specifically they talking about Angra now wtf.


Angra attack and Endeavor just dies. Is upgraded Tomura even have durability of normal human scale?

It basically became 2 users getting asshurt because GaRbS told them what Rey and ChaosTheory enlightened him upon that Angra can actually murder alot of characters because of his conceptual shit and more importantly, he has a skill where he damn near matches Artoria in power, speed, etc. for a bit.

People conceded Jeanne D'Arc murders the verse even without La Pucelle.

And the Upgraded Tomura part, is he at the level of the Top Servants? If no, Angra Mainyu casually murders his ass:

Death Desire A
The action of an existence that doesn't balk at death.
In combat, it works by ignoring the limits of the flesh and increasing the speed ad infinitum.
Of course, what is at the end of that is a loss of self, but, a moment before burning out, for the last few seconds, Angra Mainyu is able to become a top-class Servant.

This is explicitly brought up in HA for why he wasn't instantly killed by Artoria in a fight and yes, it really does go for a ludicrous degree and probably would make Angra Mainyu absolutely bullshit... if he wasn't a weakling for a Servant.
 

Paxton

One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds
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I love how he somehow takes it to being a NLF when GaRbS only compared to MHA humans LMFAO.
It's even funnier considering that... Angra Mainyu literally has a skill that turns him into a Top-Tier Servant for a few seconds and that was the reason he didn't instantly die fighting Artoria in an HA loop:

Death Desire A




His entire legend being is being made to kill Humans on par with Primate Murder(A being that is literally made to defeat Humans by Gaia itself) and only loses to ORT(A being that would shit on most series casually)?



Depends if they was fucking around or being serious from the start to be honest...
Again, even the strongest person can be defeated when they aren't expecting it.



Fucking ironic considering he spent this entire topic not explaining how or why his retarded take of "Not all Servants" doesn't matter when the grand majority basically stomp MHA into dust...




That would imply she would even NEED Luminosite Eternelle which she absolutely wouldn't lol.
I don't even know why he brings up To Aru when a lot of the top tier characters (or rather, their soul level) would hardly even count as "human" to begin with :char
 
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