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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Oh sweet jesus, this is exactly what I mean...
"If we get the hypothetical full Ram, she can defeat Sukuna but if it's the normal version, she wins" what does any of that mean in the context of the fight? Especially when it's just a hypothetical? It's also funny because this is the same series that has the same issues as the other anime that they complain about in comparison to JJK but we can take these feats at full blast? Sure guys... sure.
Bruh, this is some next level wank to pretend Guts does not murder most of Demon Slayer casually, the fuck?
Nah, that second one is still retarded to hell and back considering we literally get EMIYA stating there's a huge difference between copying Gae Bolg and his inability to copy and project Mash's shield. This is especially obvious when he projects Cu's Gae Bolg in F/SN and in the Extella series and their attempt to cope(It's just reused assests) doesn't even work when they have referenced multiple NPs that get whole ass design changes later on.
But yeah, I already talked about that one considering Heracles is a "punching bag" in a grand total of... 5 times. It's basically people listening to the memes of "Fraudkuna and Lojo" or "Jean from The X-Men constantly fucking dies and revives".
He lost in F/SN due to a combination of EMIYA killing him 6 times and Artoria and Shirou working together to get Caliburn's full output and it's 7 hit kills at once.
He lost in UBW due to not just Gilgamesh(despite what people say) but him having to protect Illya at the same time as Gil can and ultimately does kill Illya later.
He loses in Heaven's Feel because Salter is just THAT much stronger(due to the constant hype Artoria has) and the movies has it be that Heracles would have murdered 20 times over if it wasn't for the insane magical energy reinforcement and he loses to Shirou because he was blind, deaf and was even more messed up in the head and he STILL nearly killed Shirou if it wasn't for him sensing Illya.
In FGO, he loses to the Covenant of The Ark as outside of Hektor, the Chaldea Teamup group only killed him a grand total of... ONCE.
and in LB2 and 5, he dies against Surtr and Lostbelt Artemis and he still blocked Laeventienn even for a second and Lostbelt Artemis had to compromise her systems to blast him twice in a row to kill him.
This is the Gilgamesh loses all the time meme when Gilgamesh canonically has far more wins than loses or Artoria is wanked when in media outside of F/SN, she's an absolute monster that can murder whole ass armies of Servants casually.
36x Boulder Level 
bow before Tanjiro
bow before Tanjiro 36x Boulder Level
It's funny because I decided to look at TvTropes and Guts' profile off the cuff and:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he effortlessly cuts through everyone in Demon Slayer...
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"Remember.. to become an MG you have to master magic first, aka... you need to be an Anna Kingsford before you can be an Othinus. Not to mention Othinus herself was heavily unimpressed by CrC's supposed power and noted her power was not based on the same system. (Meaning it predates CrC and the rose and cross as all modern magic is based on Crowely's Idol theory which is based on the Gold dawn method which in turn is based on rose and cross magic.)"
Holy lack of reading comprehension
Having to be Anna Kingsford level when inferior magicians to her are already capable of becoming a Magic God (aka Aleister)?
Othinus wasn't even actually unimpressed with CRC's power, she's just a chuuni weirdo trying to act superior.
Of course, she also says Anna Sprengel, a vastly inferior magician to Kingsford, is superior to a Magic God, and considering that said person is directly stated to be superior to a Magic God, and with the full power of a being who can defeat all of true Gremlin at once, couldn't defeat Kingsford..
That isn't looking good for any supposed idea of Othinus being superior to Kingsford.
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Anna Sprengel’s been quietly retconned fron the most powerful enemy introduced yet to just being a really strong mage with the potential to beat a Magic God with the right conditions once we saw a whole Cabal of mages like her who likewise are situational with their abilities
CRC and Alice are the only ones I’d argue at straight up Othinus’ level
CRC and Alice are the only ones I’d argue at straight up Othinus’ level
Generic Risk 4 Transcendents don't need any special conditions to kill a Magic God.
The only thing situational are their salvation conditions (their annoying personality traits which people complain about), which aren't literal pre-requisites to activate Risk 4.
You're conflating the two.
Anna Sprengel is superior to generic Risk 4 Transcendents seeing as she actually utilizes the full power of a Secret Chief (Aiwass) and amplifies it further (iirc), the same Aiwass at full power who is, again, superior to true Gremlin.
You can also just scale her above Accelerator who's at least nerfed true Gremlin/Othinus/generic Risk 4 Transcendent tier.
And as I mentioned in the To Aru thread, she's also stated to be capable of taming/subduing Coronzon in the Abyss.
It should be obvious that she's a cut above the rest of the Transcendents, with Alice and CRC being even higher up the totem pole than she is.
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Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Tier/Feat Discussion Thread
Because much like with Berserk here, I plan to cover this eventually :maybe
onelastforum.com Berserk Tier/Feat Discussion Thread
Because why the fuck not? Seems appropriate when the series just saw its revival with chapters 365 and 366 :maybe As the narration tells us the light and wind produced by the "Great Roar of the Astral World" originated from Ganishka. Obviously, the circumstances that allowed for the planet to...
onelastforum.com Got whole threads for both dude, why TV Tropes of all things?
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Tier/Feat Discussion Thread
Because much like with Berserk here, I plan to cover this eventually :maybeBerserk Tier/Feat Discussion Thread
Because why the fuck not? Seems appropriate when the series just saw its revival with chapters 365 and 366 :maybe As the narration tells us the light and wind produced by the "Great Roar of the Astral World" originated from Ganishka. Obviously, the circumstances that allowed for the planet to...
Got whole threads for both dude, why TV Tropes of all things?
I knew you had a KnY respect thread, but I didn't know about the Berserk thread...
I also did that to see if even TvTropes knows how strong Guts is, there's no reason outside of not even trying that SB can do some basic research.
Is Armstrong is that good that he can challenge a Daemon Primach?
Granted SB does think that he lose but they make it so that Armstrong has a chance instead of getting splattered seconds after the fight starts
Seeing an Overlord nigga basically expose himself live showing he knows jackshit about Fate... pretend he knows about Fate and how Nazarick can defeat him is absolutely hilarious
Nope, Magecraft explicitly can't work against him either and Yggdrasil's systems was made by human hands and thus, no, nothing in Overlord outside of Wild Magic would do shit to Alcides. I highly doubt anyone can hurt Alcides in Overlord because they was made by human hands before "becoming real".
Casual use of NLF... Nazarick can be destroyed, just nothing in Overlord can do it but considering how weak that series is, that doesn't mean much at all.
REALLY shows he hasn't paid attention to a single thread when he(like the others) keep repeating the same goddamned mistake over and over again...
Alcides' Reincarnation Pandora can steal more than Noble Phantasms, this is why you shouldn't take what a character says at their word because their word alone doesn't mean jack and shit... oh right, it's only convenient when it benefits SB members, my bad.
"This shouldn't be allowed" GTFOH. It's up to the user if they will allow certain things or not but don't pretend that it should suddenly benefit you that certain things shouldn't be allowed either(Seriously, the number of times I see the same shit in SB with Servants is enough to drive dudes insane). If he has From Hell, he has From Hell, cased closed. And no, From Hell only increases the amount of Doppelgangers he creates, not the amount of power he has... not like it matters.
Suuure, they have a way to deal with Cerebus... this being right here:
Even if Alcides' version is weaker due to it's Divinity being removed... it would still be above Overlord's level to deal with it.
I never can understand this at all... Overlord_Rei acts as if Servants haven't dealt with shit like this before when Magecraft is hilariously above everything in Overlord past their Death Hax(And that's only due to it being within AoG-Tier Magecraft which shits on everything in Overlord) and then act like Servants will just die in 2 minutes without Magical Energy when:
1. There have been numerous times where Servants have had high grade battles without any sort of Master and was still around after it... Shirou literally fought a less than 1/10th EMIYA, got destroyed and he got wrecked by Gilgamesh and still lived to eat some animals and wreck Gil's shit in. We have seen Rogue Servants only having their own Magical Energy supply last damn near FOREVER and only vanish on their terms and the FGO America Manga has Karna and Arjuna fight for god knows how long despite being long cut off from magical energy supplies and they could still fight for 10 minutes more after that and both are known for being mana guzzlers.
2. Alcides, as well as any other Servant, can just devour the fallen of their souls and magical energy to keep their existence around if they need to... it's not like they have to spam anything major to kill the grunts as if they have feats because "we are told in this passage here" like it means anything
3. Shouldn't Alcides have access to the huge Mountain of Pure Mana Crystals Bazildot connected him to? That will keep him around for 6 months and nothing has stated that Alcides has worn it out massively by any degree which only proves further how ridiculous this "Servants can't last in a long battle" cope is.
Speak of the fucking devil and of course they are sucking off that "Yuta has a big chance at victory" because of complete fucking nonsense and acting as if "Yuta's CTs he stole should count as A-Rank" or "Yuta can get all of the right skills to kill Heracles 12 times easy" without taking into account ANYTHING that is the major issue with Yuta's DE or if he can even get it off before Heracles, you know? Flattens him like an egg?
Only in Spacebattles can these threads exist and the retards there believe "X wins because Y didn't look good here... what you mean I didn't actually see what happened? I know what happened more than you by seeing what others said".
Even with the sole 2-3 people trying to point out how dumb this stuff is, they continually show they are just saying shit too...
When in the hell is Nine Lives Blade Works only Supersonic?
If this is Supersonic, then we are literal Gods because there's no way in hell doing 8 motions before someone's attack(Whose already well above Hypersonic and Lightning Timer) can even finish and is even shown in slo-motion affair is only supersonic...
and then they try and counter it... with this:
These are somehow the same damn speed according to people in Spacebattles...
Like honest to god, I give them E for Effort but goddamn, people are seriously not trying their best when Archer's baseline arrows are Mach 10+ over there, well above anything Yuta is capable of since he would be around where Maki is which is at Mach 3-5.
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He can keep arguing it but the story says it point blank: She's JUST a Beast and that's only if she even follows Beast VII's perogative(She only "truly" becomes Beast VII when she's sync'd to the Foreign World Chaldeas which IS Beast VII). That's why when she loses her memory, she doesn't even keep her Beast tag and goes under a whole ass different category altogether and has Defender of Humanity(Something she has even when you fight her in the LB7 prologue).
And it doesn't matter anyway when this pertains to Yaldabaoth which anyone with a functioning frontal lobe will tell you he qualifies as a Beast. Again, SB keeps making themselves look stupid when if they ever did some actual research(and I'm not even talking about wikias, I mean actual basic research that is not them trying to color their own points), they would actually come out of this not looking like just another shitty VS. site.
Salfarc
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The Class is the strongest evidence here. Her Class isn't Beast. But according to Lucain, because Class effect such as Lancer lose to Saber isn't real canon, that means Class isn't "important".
So he is saying Artoria isn't Saber. Cu isn;t Lancer. Because their class are that in the Game too.
Although why is she "Rainbow" is quite weird too, why didnt they just use Beast Crest like Draco and name it Unknown.
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