the rest of the game is not even like that either. It’s like Furman heard about some ridiculous Flash feat and got so petty he wrote this in
Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Doronbo_Shirake
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So, that is what they have in common. Thank goodness the thread is not Sailor Neptune vs Cure Scarlet.The best way for her to win kiva is for both of them to play violin together
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TBF as of current volume ainz is pretty confident they could take on most of the world, outside some cabal of world item holders/level 100's hiding in the wings. Thing is he also doesn't really see any need to rush, his group is made entirely of immortal entities. Say they never met zesshi, she had maybe a couple hundred years in her as a half elf. Similarly her father has a thousand.
Ainz undead armies will just continue to swell the longer ainz works on spreading his influence.
The only creatures functioning on there time scale is other hetermoprhs and as far we're aware the only notable ones are the dragon lords. Ainz and coe are free to take there time/fuck around as long as they want and ainz knows it. There is no need to rush, they can supplant (ala the holy kingdom where they broke the people and replaced there leader with a doppel ganger) bribe (The kingdom/renner) Intimidate (The empire) and destroy (soon to be theocracy) essentially entirely at there Leisure. Theres simply no reason to risk an a suprise world item holder/dragon lord. Time is ultimately on there side.
And tbf it has served them well, pdl is one of the only entities with some idea of how dangerous players are, with more intimiate knowledge then any other dragon lord due to his connection to his parents and a previous player...Thing is as of the moment he is convinced ainz at best has two world items (He would be right if it were literally any other guild), is only eighty precent as strong as he truly is, that the limit of his summons are level seventy, that he's immune to bludgeoning damage, and the only thing he must fear is albedo who he suspects it the "Real" player.
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I can never understand this retarded logic fuckers have to say nonsense like thist:
1. Sukuna is not fast enough to blitz any Master worth a shit in the first place.
2. Even if we say somehow CAN do so, Sukuna in character is not going to randomly just chill the fuck out and start killing Masters randomly and if anything will challenge the Servant first and foremost and will only kill the Master if he's that outmatched(Which wouldn't be possible either)
3. Servants and Masters can literally sense Magical Energy, even inert Magical Energy:
Like this shouldn't even be in question yet in every single F/SN-F/Z thread, they act like Sukuna will suddenly be an Assassin that makes even King Hassan green with envy and that every Master has the speed and reactions of a snail nor will use their Command Spells Sukuna would have no idea they would work to call their Servants back or that somehow, it would literally be Sukuna's first action... or that they absolutely will not band together if he uses DE to try and kill one of them and destroy part of the town(When we have seen Masters team up for far less shit and F/Z literally had The Church put a bounty on Ryunosuke's head for the shit he was doing)
The rules even make this dumber:
He can absolutely target the Masters and win
The truly funny part is that while the 2nd Scenario does allow him to target Masters(for all the good that does him), he has no knowledge of who a Master even IS or why they would be helpful meanwhile they know of his existence(Which makes the "Picking off" part even more retarded as they would absolutely see Sukuna as a threat period and team up).
Like there is no genuine wincon outside of again giving Sukuna the biggest of Gegesucks/Spacebattles Competence and pretending the dude is superior than he ever was in JJK.
Yeah because that's how Sukuna works, he will somehow target the Masters first then just hide away like a bitch till the Servants die, not rampage around killing men, women and children in gruesome ways just for the hell of it and then kill anyone who tries to interfere with that...
Sure.
Actually trying to defend Sukuna's character
This reminds me of the American Comics fans that will swear up and down that The Joker didn't rape Barbara when he paralyzed her because the writer of The Killing Joke said so... when he did so much horrible shit for "jokes", why would rape be out of his purview considering what he stands for?
Last time I checked, Sukuna heavily implied he was gonna rape Nobara the second time he was freed against that Special Grade in the first arc.
Uh no, you would have to downplay the living shit out of their feats even in F/SN to pretend Sukuna has a prayer against any Servant worth a damn on this list. Secondly, you would also have to pretend he would have the time to summon Mahoraga to begin with and 3rd of all, we have to overscale the shit out of their already shitty fight in the anime to downplay Heracles in F/SN(Which they did as even VSB got far better numbers for Heracles' fight in HF).
This keeps being talked about so much and people refuse to understand something so obvious...
1. If Gae Bolg hits you in the heart, you are dead as every other part of your body will become a Gae Bolg Shishkabob. "But Bazett was able to survive for some minutes-" no she didn't, she had what you would literally in her having her life flash between her eyes and her last moment seeing the Earring Cu had is identical to hers.
2. We have seen how shit RCT is even under Sukuna as it takes quite a bit to even heal off a hand if he starts losing Cursed Energy to do so or have his Soul disrupted(Which surprise! Servants can fuck with Souls!), Avalon can virtually heal virtually impossible injuries in seconds and even that took half a day to heal a shoulder wound done by Gae Bolg. RCT isn't saving anyone let alone Sukuna(Unless they have 10+ years of Cursed Energy to work with which... no they don't).
3. Why wouldn't Gae Bolg land? Sukuna has shown on multiple occasions that he will take attacks to prove a point just as much as he will dodge an attack to prove a point. If you try and say Sukuna will run away because he somehow knows of Gae Bolg's threat, then you can easily say the same thing for Servants realizing the threat of DE and backing off and just blasting him at long range. None of this makes Sukuna look better, especially if Cu just uses the Soaring Death variant instead.
Now you know how I feel whenever we get Fate vs. DS shit in SB from time to time...
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I found the reason for that apart for being VS Battles
In the anime, the Egyptian Gods fought and defeated The Great Leviathan, a monster that was destroying both the Human World and the Duel Monsters world. This is explained by Dark Magician Girl.
Also, because of this:
Diabound fought against Obelisk:
How strong is the Monster Hunter Universe?
Actually VSB also scaled anime DM to GX and 5ds era because these franchise take place in same world.
Salfarc
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Problem comes from that is still essentially punching down matters for confidence. Alcides is someone who can just steal abilities, shoot faster than lightning, can take mountain busting attack, resistant towards magic, etc. This particular thread should ends in 2 or 3 pages at most but it gets to 21.
There's even a guy who made up abilities to argue. Kay Os, there.
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To be fair, Reincarnation Pandora steals a HELL of alot more than just abilities considering it stole a Divine Spirit Core as for the "Mountain Busting Attack", he more got punch so hard he went tens if not hundreds of meters away into a Plateau and even bathed in lava with no damage on top of getting slashed, bitten and laser beamed to shit by Berserker JTR's From Hell and it's many clones.
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Im not trying to argue the thread just pointing out at this point in the story ainz is aware he can essentially roll his setting, he's still a bit paranoid about other high level entities hiding but he understands just how out of scale they are at this point.
The thing is building his kingdom/creating a utopia is a pure flight of fancy, its not a goal that needs to be completed, less does it need to be completed with expedience. I get being frustrated with them moving slow but they're an immortal cabal of nigh unkillable monsters with an impenetrable fortress, they really have no need to rush and ainz is well aware of that. Which is why they fucked around with elder liches burning cities/dropping soul eaters into cities etc.
Mr.OMG
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Welcome to the club buddy
Oh boy, more Starsight nonsense, can't wait to get how retarded his takes will be here...
Not. Even. Close.
The foundation Medea tore through with her combined version of her Rain of Light completely goes against that.
The only reason to pretend to do so is acting as IF the statement is the only evidence that's the case and little else(Which doesn't work as Saber goes through her spells like nothing).
No, they don't! Only the strongest of Sukuna's attacks even goes past Large Building unless you constantly pretend needing to spam Dismantles to cut a Skyscraper apart somehow counts as a "Large Building" attack... which SB does.
No they aren't, not even remotely close:
The only reason you would come to that conclusion is if you genuinely believe Fuyuki is an extremely small City and everything else surrounding it is small as well.
Again, no actual proof on why it won't work, just basically wanking the shit out of it and pretending it WOULD... which isn't a debate tactic anyone should care for.
You should check this out. She believes that contending against freaking Daemon Angron isn't impressive
Nigga aint even making it past Batman
Mahoraga is literally wanked something fierce and it's literally one of the most undeserving characters of it. It's just people wanking the living fuck out of it's adaptation and putting it's own durability beyond it's weight class to pretend it can suddenly stack to people it damn well shouldn't.
It's not helped by the absolutely atrocious fight scene with it and Sukuna which further has people wank the piss out of it despite it's feats are jack and of shit in the grand scheme of things.
Salfarc
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Oh boy, more Starsight nonsense, can't wait to get how retarded his takes will be here...
Not. Even. Close.
The foundation Medea tore through with her combined version of her Rain of Light completely goes against that.
The only reason to pretend to do so is acting as IF the statement is the only evidence that's the case and little else(Which doesn't work as Saber goes through her spells like nothing).
No, they don't! Only the strongest of Sukuna's attacks even goes past Large Building unless you constantly pretend needing to spam Dismantles to cut a Skyscraper apart somehow counts as a "Large Building" attack... which SB does.
No they aren't, not even remotely close:
The only reason you would come to that conclusion is if you genuinely believe Fuyuki is an extremely small City and everything else surrounding it is small as well.
Again, no actual proof on why it won't work, just basically wanking the shit out of it and pretending it WOULD... which isn't a debate tactic anyone should care for.
The same person that said Fire Arrow is low megaton despite no prove, and saying Gae Bolg need stance despite the prove that he doesn't need to.