Cryso Agori
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And the gun Genya used wasn't amped by demon blood like when he fought Kokushibo, it was a normal gun.
Doesn't really change the fact that Genya blew off a Upper Moons head with the blicky unless you wanna go Rui's neck > Upper Moon now.
The Boulder is over hyped as shit that's all, the best speed feat for the hashira is Rengoku blocking machine gun fire from a prequel manga that wasn't even drawn by Gotouge.
No shit, I already mentioned that. Still more energy than any sword strike can put out.Frieza would be enduring magnitudes less energy (as explained here),
Do you believe his physical strength is on the same level as his ki attacks, which context should tell you, but here is more proof, as if it was needed.Trunks is strong (I never denied this), and a sword multiplies how effective this force is.
A sword strike, an explosion, and a punch are all measured the same way, in joules. Even if the damage they produce is different. But this discussion is irrelevant because we are comparing the swing of a sword to a planet exploding. You do realize the vast difference right?This isn't just true on a human scale, this is true in general. The smaller an area force is applied over the greater the pressure will be. Side-stepping this by pointing out that a punch can also kill someone isn't actually addressing this, it's just dishonest handwaving.
This blunt vs piercing shit doesn't even make sense when at a certain level of speed and force you can cut shit with anything.
Example?
Iihiko cutting Ajimu in half with a rubber band
Real Word Example?
At a certain amount of speed and force you can cut with water.
There really isn't much of a difference unless shown otherwise
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Hell there are example in fiction of niggas cutting people with their hands
Unless we bout to say that hands are sharp objects now
This blunt vs piercing shit doesn't even make sense when at a certain level of speed and force you can cut shit with anything.
Example?
Iihiko cutting Ajimu in half with a rubber band
Real Word Example?
At a certain amount of speed and force you can cut with water.
There really isn't much of a difference unless shown otherwise
You guys don't understand. Xcano is MUCH smarter than you, so you're just wrong. Just wait for his next essay in which he not only ignores science, but common sense in generalIt's funny because Water Cutters aren't just genuinely a thing, we see shit like this happen all the time in strong enough floods:
Water jet cutter - Wikipedia
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It's funny because at the end of the day, blunt force and piercing force matters for dick because all you are doing for the latter is putting that amount of force into a single point.
It's like people forget that Guns at the end of the day are Blunt Force objects, they don't actually pierce through shit.
Boulder feat is overhyped, but it still shits on bulletsDoesn't really change the fact that Genya blew off a Upper Moons head with the blicky unless you wanna go Rui's neck > Upper Moon now.
The Boulder is over hyped as shit that's all, the best speed feat for the hashira is Rengoku blocking machine gun fire from a prequel manga that wasn't even drawn by Gotouge.
Most of the org is fodder tho yeahOkay but to be fair to demon slayer, the hashira would probably stomp the entire war, moving at mach speed alone would be enough to easily outmaneuver squads of humans before they have a chance to fire guns or shit.
Problem is assuming that all demon slayers are sonic-supersonic when Tanjiro, Zenitsu, and Inosuke are freaks of nature and overtrained compared to their position.
They aren't hashira level till eos but even during season 1 all of them are stronger than the average demon slayer.
Most of the org is fodder tho yeah
I don't know why you're using "a sword strike" like this is an objective and absolute form of measurement. A sword is just a tool for multiplying pressure (opposite to how levers and hydraulics multiply force by shortening the work). Why do you think he has it in the first place?Still more energy than any sword strike can put out.
Because no sword strike is going to have the same amount of force as a planet exploding, no matter if the person was on surface or the core of the planet. That should be obvious.I don't know why you're using "a sword strike" like this is an objective and absolute form of measurement. A sword is just a tool for multiplying pressure (opposite to how levers and hydraulics multiply force by shortening the work). Why do you think he has it in the first place?
You do realize if you use enough force, you can take down a tree with your hand. You can do with your hand what you can do with a blade. Goku literally does that against Trunks. That's what superhumans do.....because they're superhumanIf the sword has an impact profile a thousand times smaller in area than Trunk's fist, then it will apply a thousand times as much pressure. Even if Frieza requires "planetary forces" to split in half, that it's being done with a sword still greatly decreases the amount of physical effort needed on Trunk's part to do so. That's what a blade is for. You can cut down a tree with an axe, but not your fist. It's not like the body just generates more energy when swinging an axe than it would any other blunt object, though.
Since you're so much smarter than everyone here, why don't you tell us how much energy an almost dead Frieza took, and then tell us how much Trunks needed to disect a Frieza at 100%To be clear, Frieza takes a minute portion of Namek exploding (you don't disagree with this), this is then reduced further on Trunks' end by the use of a blade (you seem to disagree with this for some reason).
"blade's sharpness" You're not a clowm, you're the whole circusThis blade's sharpness is completely unknown, so no further conclusions can be made. It's just "vaguely less than an event that is vaguely less than the yield of Namek's detonation"
So for all your yapping, you can't prove any of your assertions. You also haven't answered as to how Gohan can damage inanimate objects that have incredible durability.I'm not saying Trunks is like, as weak as a random dude with a sword or whatever. For all I know he could split a mountain in half with the sword. All I'm saying is that it's not by-necessity "planet busting". You'd have to actually do math and make a model to demonstrate this, and given that we're missing several major variables this isn't really possible.
You do realize if you use enough force, you can take down a tree with your hand. You can do with your hand what you can do with a blade. Goku literally does that against Trunks. That's what superhumans do.....because they're superhuman
Look at that, I just took your "muh sword sharpness" red herring and tore it to pieces.
Yeah, the sword is irrelevant. You could give Trunks a baseball bat he would do the same damageA reminder that 17 and/or 18 broke Trunk's Sword and they both have biological augments by Toriyama's word...
To be clear, you're simultaneously arguing both that Trunks is strong enough to destroy a planet with his fists but also that he can't swing a sword with planet-destroying force?Because no sword strike is going to have the same amount of force as a planet exploding
Especially given their other feats that seems like a stretch.
Aleister didn't view the double-nerfed MGs as a threat anymore. That they could survive a big bang bomb is pure speculation as he never used it against them. He, in general, kinda forgot he could use that technique later on.
And they didn't overpower Accel's vector shield, so that isn't ground for a power comparision.
They are more realistically placed around planet level by scaling. Fits closer to their own best feats, like Prosperina freezing the whole planet.