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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Ikr. He is saying everyone can do Mana Burst, because its just expelling magical energy and when I said "That's only technically true, not all of them are listed as Mana Burst" then he start to say that "it's redundant to list them as Mana Burst" and use Tiamat not having "Divinity" skill like Gilgamesh as a point there where I quote it.

He ignores that Tiamat is "Divine Spirit" lmao.

straight up states even though the effect is similar it doesn't have the explosive effect of MB
 
Also it’s clear that GE is physically stronger than most stands

It sent a dozen cars flying into the air with its punches, 99% of stands aren’t that strong. Only the absolute strongest can replicate that by feats

So it’s always funny to me when people try to scale it to other stands just because it’s strength is listed at C rank

There are two explanations for that:

-Stand stats are BS (likely answer)
-Araki retconned his strength and gave GE the strength of an A rank stand later
 
I do hate that araki got rid of the whole karmic retribution part of Gold Experience.

I get why cause its busted as fuck, but still
 
Bruh, Artoria don't really use Mana Burst in F/SN because she lack in mana and this guy said Artoria will get snapped like a twig if she didn't. She literally can't fight at full power because she lack mana but she manage just fine.
 
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You know what divine spirits have that Tiamat doesn’t have listed? A goddess core. And you are literally using the same logic you are arguing against. A lot of other servant do not have mana burst listed, because it’s such a basic thing that is it downright redundant to include.

Larva Tiamat have goddess core


straight up states even though the effect is similar it doesn't have the explosive effect of MB
He really insist it's just magical energy release because thats the name. And yes originally it is "MAGICAL ENERGY BURST"
“魔力放出” (localized as mana burst) literally just means magical energy release. So you are defining spells by using literal name of mana burst.
Like, does he think any spell are mana burst? Because technically they release magical energy
 
At that point you just ask them if they know better than the official product which has the passive listed, then end the conversation cause they clearly just want to hear their own headcanon
 
Bruh, Artoria don't really use Mana Burst in F/SN because she lack in mana and this guy said Artoria will get snapped like a twig if she didn't. She literally can't fight at full power because she lack mana but she manage just fine.

That's because they are taking it from her situation in F/SN which is because she's less of a Servant there and more of a mix of her actual self and Servant qualities(That and a bad summon and Master/Servant connection from Shirou).
I remember that because Spacebattles has used that argument multiple times to pretend Mordred is physically stronger than Artoria without Mana Burst even though that makes no sense for a downgraded Homonculus to be stronger than the real thing in any way.
 
That's because they are taking it from her situation in F/SN which is because she's less of a Servant there and more of a mix of her actual self and Servant qualities(That and a bad summon and Master/Servant connection from Shirou).
I remember that because Spacebattles has used that argument multiple times to pretend Mordred is physically stronger than Artoria without Mana Burst even though that makes no sense for a downgraded Homonculus to be stronger than the real thing in any way.
Hmm maybe. This all starts with me saying "Artoria isn't weak without Dragon Core but obviously will not be as strong without one. She is build around Dragon Core. She can still do Mana Burst albeit weaker". And then it become "Everyone can do weaker mana burst, without dragon core she weak af" which become the argument.

But really I think I remember it specifically stated in F/SN she can't use much mana. Mana Burst use mana, that would mean she wouldn't use it that much. So bad summon and Shirou being ass master included, in canon she didn't really use it in F/SN isn't it? And this guy say she would've died if she didn't...
 

And here we go again.
This guy is definitely either NC or BJ.
I wasn't sold on it being NC at first but given NC actually did read Moorcock and just either sucked ass at understanding them or lowballed it just to spite you it's seeming more and more like this guy's his dupe. If he was just being a hardass about that stupid respect thread I'd just think he's some bum but he's being too specific now to not have read some of the material
 
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