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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Just noticed VSB has MCU Kingpin as stronger than his comic self


Swear this is what happens when you let literally anybody just come in, post a few out of context scans and magically topple years of analysis' of the characters


Yeah, it's a majorly known issue of VSB's as they will sometimes just take one person completely seriously over the collective if they bring in "enough evidence", damn if it actually makes sense or not.
Same shit happened with DMC for the longest and still does despite the "Mundus creating a Universe" was dispelled in 5 to just be a huge ass spatial illusion.
 

Yhwach literally rewrites timelines… that’s his ability . If hes low multi maybe she wins but star level physicals don’t cut it. Yhwach eats her

Looking at her profile on VSWiki, I see nothing impressive that Yhwach can't handle. Besides that, can you like post actual sourced feats? No one knows this character.

Got total normies that dont bother with anything besides mainstream Shounen slop arguing Yhwach wins by going off VBW’s garbage profile for the White Queen

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VBW has White Queen at “Galaxy level and subsonic”

Actual feat the White Queen did

Even when she was caught off guard, that cute last boss was so perfect that she made sure just collapsing forward was enough to destroy the world.

When that white light was carelessly unleashed, it blew away the current universe in 10^-44 seconds. And just 5 seconds after that, the spatial world formed from matter and antimatter cooled enough to create countless particles that acted as the cores of atoms.

^ Yeeting an entire universe from existence just by tripping and doing so at over 150 Novemdecillion times the speed of light

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Vs Battle Wiki: Using a crossover novel written by the author with power levels between characters considered, clear cut feats, and WoG statements by the same author to back them up as legit?

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Also Vs Battle Wiki: Use some obscure Chinese mobile game and a fucking cookbook respectably to wank Dante and Kratos to higher dimension, Multiversal levels.


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Nevermind deliberately ignoring the developers of both Devil May Cry and God of War telling them they’re full of shit, to stop bothering them with asking how many dimensions Kratos and Dante are and any other powerscaling nonsense on their social media, and to get a fucking life.

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Nevermind deliberately ignoring the developers of both Devil May Cry and God of War telling them they’re full of shit, to stop bothering them with asking how many dimensions Kratos and Dante are and any other powerscaling nonsense on their social media, and to get a fucking life.

:hestonpls
Meanwhile the same people will conveniently ignore the canon crossover material Final Fantasy has that pushes the characters to those levels.

If they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any I guess. :mjha
 

not necessarily
Brings in 2 out of context quotes to back up his point

I long know TheWorld tends to be stupid on purpose but this is some next level stupid considering again it's been consistently stated the Rhongomyniad we tend to see on Artoria's person is not the actual Tower itself but just connected Shadow of itself in the form of a Spear. That doesn't change whether or not it's the Lion King's or Morgan's.

these are not 2 different lines. and there is no context required to interpret it. the shadow is referred to as the tower of the end, explicitly.
No it's not :heston

This is the equivalent of saying The Black Materia we see in the Temple of the Ancients is the same as the entirety of The Black Materia that is the Temple of The Ancients.

:maury
I'm not even going to bring this in, it's literally the exact shit people critique Spacebattles for:
The Text completely says one thing, the user then tries his damnest to literally tell people that it says something else despite there being zero wiggle room to say otherwise

Again, Spacebattles cannot consistently have people keep going "Nasuverse be too hard" when they consistently refuse to entertain anything but what they want to hear. But considering they still believe Naruto is somehow subsonic but at the same time we should ignore Horikoshi stating All-Might is Mach 10 because "Jumping Good" but never apply that equally to any other series really does show the lack of actual standards.


And tiamat best durability feat is tanking Quetz np. I am saying quetzalcoalt is as strong as tiamat, i am talking about the best attack she tank is much below Ichigo and as such saying that metatron saint graph is comparable to tiamat doesn't mean she beat him.
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This single sentence has me wondering if Fish1N1ps is truly taking the piss because I have no idea the hell he even means here:
1. Is he saying that Quetzalcoatl is as strong as Tiamat is in her entirety? Because Quetzalcoatl explicitly states she isn't, regardless if she got her full Divinity or was somehow able to enlarge herself to the same size.
2. If he's saying she isn't and it's just her "best attack", then he completely fails to notice that Tiamat wasn't in her best form(That would be her Jurassic Form) when she no sold Piedra Del Sol and that she was actually able to fight against Enuma Elish until Ritsuka virtually told her to die and she allowed herself to die.
3. There is nothing in Ichigo's arsenal that allows him to defeat Quetzalcoatl in the first damn place and going by SB's own logic, there's nothing in Ichigo's arsenal that even rivals PDS, let alone the PDS + Xihucoatl combo, let alone Tiamat. This is like saying Ichigo can defeat Draco because "Draco has shown nothing impressive" and then completely ignore the Spiral World's entire existence:jordangif

Also saying transcendant divine doesn't mean anything by itself, it does gives us what she is capable of doing, it just mean she is stronger that the average divine spirit.

Are we going back to the time that "Average Divine Spirit" means Stheno and Euryale tier? Because I remember that... it was so hilarious seeing people trying to act like they are average when they are explicitly stated to be such an exception, that they are summoned stronger as Servants than they was alive as genuine Divine Spirits
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Like it's seriously funny seeing this shit man, like I fully get SB will always be like this with the Nasuverse and made my piece with it but this is some next level delusion I keep seeing people do as of late like:
"No Servant has ever scratched a Divine Spirit" but then ignore Brynhild's existence as a gimped and just flailing around Sigurd was able to rock her shit or the fact that to defeat a legit Machine God, you need a Divine Construct... which the strongest Servants tend to have(Hell, Achilles could have killed Lostbelt Artemis if he wasn't so fucked up from Chiron shooting his heel) and even Durandal was able to block a Planetary Laser twice and not even get a scratch.
:garrett
Like you basically have to go to the literal Top of The Pile(God Arjuna, Grand Servant Romulus Quirinus and Tezcatlipoca, Lostbelt Zeus and Kukulcan) just to make a good argument and the latter is literally ORT's Heart deified and Lostbelt Zeus and God Arjuna are amped to shit to the point it's slowly fucking them up.
 




I long know TheWorld tends to be stupid on purpose but this is some next level stupid considering again it's been consistently stated the Rhongomyniad we tend to see on Artoria's person is not the actual Tower itself but just connected Shadow of itself in the form of a Spear. That doesn't change whether or not it's the Lion King's or Morgan's.


No it's not :heston

This is the equivalent of saying The Black Materia we see in the Temple of the Ancients is the same as the entirety of The Black Materia that is the Temple of The Ancients.

:maury
I'm not even going to bring this in, it's literally the exact shit people critique Spacebattles for:
The Text completely says one thing, the user then tries his damnest to literally tell people that it says something else despite there being zero wiggle room to say otherwise

Again, Spacebattles cannot consistently have people keep going "Nasuverse be too hard" when they consistently refuse to entertain anything but what they want to hear. But considering they still believe Naruto is somehow subsonic but at the same time we should ignore Horikoshi stating All-Might is Mach 10 because "Jumping Good" but never apply that equally to any other series really does show the lack of actual standards.



:checkthis
This single sentence has me wondering if Fish1N1ps is truly taking the piss because I have no idea the hell he even means here:
1. Is he saying that Quetzalcoatl is as strong as Tiamat is in her entirety? Because Quetzalcoatl explicitly states she isn't, regardless if she got her full Divinity or was somehow able to enlarge herself to the same size.
2. If he's saying she isn't and it's just her "best attack", then he completely fails to notice that Tiamat wasn't in her best form(That would be her Jurassic Form) when she no sold Piedra Del Sol and that she was actually able to fight against Enuma Elish until Ritsuka virtually told her to die and she allowed herself to die.
3. There is nothing in Ichigo's arsenal that allows him to defeat Quetzalcoatl in the first damn place and going by SB's own logic, there's nothing in Ichigo's arsenal that even rivals PDS, let alone the PDS + Xihucoatl combo, let alone Tiamat. This is like saying Ichigo can defeat Draco because "Draco has shown nothing impressive" and then completely ignore the Spiral World's entire existence:jordangif



Are we going back to the time that "Average Divine Spirit" means Stheno and Euryale tier? Because I remember that... it was so hilarious seeing people trying to act like they are average when they are explicitly stated to be such an exception, that they are summoned stronger as Servants than they was alive as genuine Divine Spirits
:ronaldolel
Like it's seriously funny seeing this shit man, like I fully get SB will always be like this with the Nasuverse and made my piece with it but this is some next level delusion I keep seeing people do as of late like:
"No Servant has ever scratched a Divine Spirit" but then ignore Brynhild's existence as a gimped and just flailing around Sigurd was able to rock her shit or the fact that to defeat a legit Machine God, you need a Divine Construct... which the strongest Servants tend to have(Hell, Achilles could have killed Lostbelt Artemis if he wasn't so fucked up from Chiron shooting his heel) and even Durandal was able to block a Planetary Laser twice and not even get a scratch.
:garrett
Like you basically have to go to the literal Top of The Pile(God Arjuna, Grand Servant Romulus Quirinus and Tezcatlipoca, Lostbelt Zeus and Kukulcan) just to make a good argument and the latter is literally ORT's Heart deified and Lostbelt Zeus and God Arjuna are amped to shit to the point it's slowly fucking them up.
Damn, Servants are OP. I always thought Gods >>>> Servants.
 

We have known this for about 15 years. Though I will grant you the latest volumes showing was a upgrade to what we've seen before in terms of application. To the point where It's not even fundamentally "vector control" anymore. Hes just, doing shit and Kamachi handwaves it with "vector control". Great for battleboard wankery but terrible for quality storytelling.

Hate to bring up something again, but GenkiDama’s post here is even dumber now that I understand the full context

So apparently, THIS is terrible writing and no longer vector manipulation

There had been no advance sign.

This rain was blatantly unnatural.

Then again, maybe it was wrong to look for anything natural inside Academy City to begin with.

A voice spoke within the pouring rain.

“Cool it.”

He wasn’t actually here of course.

The familiar voice was not playing from a speaker. Even a researcher with the Kihara name was a smidge impressed.

“That’s the sound of the falling rain. So are you superimposing your voice onto the vibrations of the raindrops themselves?”

Meanwhile, the human spoke with his voice low.

As if he were uttering a powerful curse.

The new Board Chairman, huh?”

“And get a clue. You don’t have a choice here. That third-rate bastard used up all his options that day. That’s all there is to this. Neither of us can waltz in after the fact and start messing with things.”

This rain didn’t just seem artificial.

It truly was artificial rain created by Academy City technology.

He could freely control the entire world’s weather and environment, but a single person’s life was beyond his reach. Controlling so much great knowledge wasn’t enough to make someone happy.

(I will not let him be taken to the crematorium.)

Thus, Aleister was leaning forward in that moment.

(As long as I can secure Kamijou Touma’s whole body, there are still options. Plenty of options!! I don’t even need any help from Academy Ci-)

Crash!!!

Without warning, a powerful lightning bolt fell from the sky, piercing Aleister’s body on its way down.

Accelerator had not left the District 10 prison.

Not a single step.

That was the restriction he had placed on himself.

And he didn’t even need to.

“Hmph.”

Gas pipes, water pipes, and fiber optic cables.

All sorts of plumbing and wiring was laid out like a spider web below Academy City. The total length could wrap around the earth two and a half times with more to spare.

So.

With the ultimate vector control power, there was no need to leave the strictly guarded prison. As long as he knew an effective path, he could easily use the artificial objects underground to manipulate the atmosphere, create pressure differences, and send down an electric attack like a spear piercing the human who was located several train stations away.

He had never said he was helpless just because he wouldn’t leave.

No matter the reason, he would not use a crisis as an excuse to cut his punishment short. But with so much power at his disposal, he couldn’t just let people die when he was capable of saving them. Both of those were absolutes in his mind.

He would make them both work together.

So the new Board Chairman had honed his #1 Level 5 power to this point.

Controlling the vectors of your own voice using rain water as the vector, one of the easiest mediums for sound to travel through and Accel manipulating the weather all from his cell, even after it’s explained in detail the methods Accelerator uses to do so showing vectors are very much at work, is it still a bad thing.

Nevermind that controlling weather across the planet is something we’ve seen Accel did since his debut

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Even for a fake fan that only ever got into the Toaru series as a way to wank Bleach, Genkidama has some of shittiest takes I’ve ever heard
 
Damn, Servants are OP. I always thought Gods >>>> Servants.

Most of them? No and it's always been weird for people to say that because they completely misinterpret things.
The Divine Spirit Servants that tend to get weakened the hardest is the Chief Deities or those who have been Pseudo-Servants(Which isn't even that true either, see Astraea dominating so hard in the Case Files Event, Rhongomyniad was the only thing capable of stopping her on both sides) but it's not like they are made of playdo and wishes either.
Quetzalcoatl is seen as a monster even as just a "Servant" with Tomoe Gozen fighting like she was going to kill her and treated it like a workout and Caenis and Raikou trying to kill Ibuki and she treats it like it's also nothing.

It's one of the reasons why I tend to think that the only thing they really lose is just their Authorities which is a huge loss but not exactly the only reason they are OP either... and then you have the Servants that can kick their asses anyway or match up. Like blame Lostbelt 5 and above for this when you have Minamoto No Tametomo being made from Machine God Artemis' remains... yet not only still fires with the same level of intensity as her, but Super Orion and Siegfried both can dead ass match it no problem. Or the fact that Hektor using Durandiana and Mandricardo using Durandal being able to block Machine God Artemis' attacks each... is still not the rightful users of Durandal like Roland is.

If you have to go to the absolute apex of "Divine Spirits"... that's not exactly the level where DAA's and TA's can suddenly fuck with them, they would get mollywhooped just as bad. It's why Metatron Jeanne being at the level of Beast Tiamat is so absolutely insane:
No one even remotely recorded in Divinity was EVER at that level and that's the level of Christianity and that's only in Magecraft terms, that's not even going into the actual Biblically Accurate beings either. It's like using ORT as the barometer of the typical DAA.

EDIT: I forgot about Primordial Machine God CHAOS but who can blame me? I tend to forget he exists despite being the extreme, extreme rare exception as well.
 
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