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[Ratchet]

But of course I can, because if you are mafia then you obviously know I’m town too

That "if" is doing a lot of work here, though. It's not an argument.

the problem for me is, I struggle to see where that comes from a town you. Firstly, I think you as town would much rather try and get the lynch where you want it (ie me, lethal, xenos) rather than just wait and see which is what you did. Secondly, I don’t think my play around tweet really makes sense coming from scum me tbh, and I think you’d have a fairly hard time arguing why it does

You're making a lot of assumptions about my town play, and I don't think it is really earned. You've seen me compromise plenty of times. I stated my reasoning for Xenos, but his case was already made - and objectively I don't think the Tweet lynch was awful. You keep forgetting that I had Tweet at Null, not Town - which means I have no reason to heavily defend the slot if there is gain to be had from it.

As for the second point, I obviously disagree. You can argue that you'd be more consistent, but I think your initial town read was terrible, and from there you're pretty limited in how you can respond anyway. Reversing it to make this WIFOM argument isn't beyond the pale to me.

 

[xenos5]

Just to confirm, you abstained? Woof

Yes

 

[TAT]

I already said. I abstained as I was asked to.

you should abstain the whole game

 

[Poyser]

idk what this is about but i may rly need to start reading the context for this stuff b4 coming here swinging

Yes, as I already asked, plz ISO my posts from start of D2

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

None of that is scummy tho. Explain how it’s scummy at all? Why is being aggressive with you scummy? It’s not even slightly scummy kek

in fact this is shit, because you’re calling the case here forced but yet yesterday you said it was good and wanted to see tweets response

why the fuck would they kill me or ultra? What a stupid fucking question. “If you look bad from the mislynch then why don’t mafia kill you” lmfao did you take a knock to the head recently or something because you’ve answered your own bloody question in the question.

being aggressive isnt scummy. being aggressive for no reason is. did u have a reason to be aggressive? have u never seen a player be inactive and busy and ask for a case on the main wagon? that aggression was FORCED ASFK

they kill u and ultra because if u r town this is the perfect time to do it. no sane townie will protect u n1. why not kill u? arent u carrying the game?

 

[Poyser]

I feel Poyser has made some off statements this game as well

Such as…?

 

[TAT]

Such as…?

thought you gave T-Pein too easy a town read early

and i think the claim of TMI was a reach

 

[Ultra]

I’m sorry but Ekko your arrogance (or confidence w/e) is so extremely misplaced here. You barge in yesterday 1 hour begrote deadline demanding a case while bekend certain Tweet would flip town and now You’re gonna hindsight hero again and do your thing where you accuse everyone at least once so you’re bound to be wright.

it comes across as very disingenuous

Who are your preferred lynch candidates for today? Woof.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

its like ive been gaslit to scum read tweet when i tonally viewed the guy as town

when i said i tone read him town ppl just piled on for no reason and asked me 500 questions

cocky, postured, aggression

now u had ur lynch and it was wrong

step back for a bit and sit down

 

[Alco]

its like ive been gaslit to scum read tweet when i tonally viewed the guy as town

when i said i tone read him town ppl just piled on for no reason and asked me 500 questions

cocky, postured, aggression

now u had ur lynch and it was wrong

step back for a bit and sit down

Lmao this guy talking about 500 questions

 

[xenos5]

you should abstain the whole game

I'd much rather act as the secondary lynch as others have proposed. But as before, i'll see what the majority has to say

 

[Alco]

Who are your preferred lynch candidates for today? Woof.

I was gonna say Odo (Gramma), but Ekko’s coming in a close second and gaining with his unwarranted cockiness

 

[Ratchet]

Now to give credit to Poyser his position on me has been very consistent with his worldview that he is purporting to have. His suspicion on me isn't actually bad, and I'd be lying if I said it was, because if he's town he obviously sees me setting him up after Tweet which *should* ring some alarm bells. My response is obviously that I don't have scum TMI and can only evaluate based on what I see, but he is uniquely positioned here to gather impressions like this.

 

[Dr. Watson]

ok so im sick idk how much patience i will yave to catch up

i did read snippets so correct me if im wrong but someone was outed as indie iirc which was xenos, wasn't there consensus the slot should be gotten rid of via vig or whatever? what happened to that?

 

[Aurelian]

Awful usage on the kill skip tbh


Why me?

What exactly is interesting about that?

Why do people keep asking Tweet to claim like he didn't ages ago?

Tweet probably town tbh, seen this sort of defence from Tweet before and he always flips town.

I am sick so expect the minimal effort

> Doddsy confident Tweet wasn't lying about his role (stump) and his town
> Doddsy gets killed and janitored by mafia
> Doddsy supported vigging/shooting Xenos

Not gonna bother because lazy but Hans also reading CP as scum like I did based off yesterday and day 1 doesn't hurt and he was suspicious about Alco but that one I'm less certain about.

Now who were the people Tweet felt strongly about?

Poyser based off his suspicions with Lethal's last town reads,

I'm currently recalibrating, I think Alco and CP still look pretty bad today, Alco moreso than CP. With CP, the way he slithered his way onto my wagon stunk, and Alco like I said seemed to be more of a heckler today. I can literally imagine him hiding behind Poyser and peeking out behind his back every so often, throwing a verbal dagger my way and disappearing again. That's what his play today felt like.

One of Hans reads. He can confirm if I'm misinterpreting him from yesterday though or not.

 

[Dr. Watson]

sorry don't be mad i am not up to date >_>

 

[Poyser]

That "if" is doing a lot of work here, though. It's not an argument.
You're making a lot of assumptions about my town play, and I don't think it is really earned. You've seen me compromise plenty of times. I stated my reasoning for Xenos, but his case was already made - and objectively I don't think the Tweet lynch was awful. You keep forgetting that I had Tweet at Null, not Town - which means I have no reason to heavily defend the slot if there is gain to be had from it.

As for the second point, I obviously disagree. You can argue that you'd be more consistent, but I think your initial town read was terrible, and from there you're pretty limited in how you can respond anyway. Reversing it to make this WIFOM argument isn't beyond the pale to me.

More consistent? Like just think about it for 5 seconds. Obviously if I’m mafia I know tweet is town, so that means I would have made an active decision to defend him against pressure and try to stop the wagon forming on him. It then means I made another active decision to completely abandon that play, change completely and start pushing him for a lynch strongly. Again, knowing that he’s town. Why? Is your best argument really that I did it for WIFOM? That’s a pretty terrible argument

Like flipping my read and pushing strongly means I’ve made the decision to purposely dirty myself, because not only is it going to look awkward that I’ve flipped, but I’m then strongly pushing someone that I know is gonna flip town and make me look even worse. And to put it over the edge, it was completely unneeded. Ultra was already pushing tweet hard, so there wasn’t any need at all to dirty myself. Makes much more sense than to just keep defending him, push somewhere else or take a step back and let ultra push his thing through.

again I just don’t see you believing this shit as town, because the FAR more likely explanation is that I don’t know what tweets alignment is and changed my mind after reading his ISO as I said. For me to be scum you have to stick a lot of square pegs into round holes to make it make sense

 

[Ratchet]

I was gonna say Odo (Gramma), but Ekko’s coming in a close second and gaining with his unwarranted cockiness

Why Gram before you've even received results on him? What actually is the case here, because it is becoming a very easy, safe position to hold. I want your read on this Alco, show me the thought process please.

 

[TAT]

ok so im sick idk how much patience i will yave to catch up

i did read snippets so correct me if im wrong but someone was outed as indie iirc which was xenos, wasn't there consensus the slot should be gotten rid of via vig or whatever? what happened to that?

my advice, don't bother

also I tried to shoot him N1 but nobody died

 

[Aurelian]

thought you gave T-Pein too easy a town read early

and i think the claim of TMI was a reach

My only issue with Poyser right now is his interactions with Ekko and the constant town reading him and Lethal had with each other since Day 1, which seems odd to me but maybe I'm over thinking it.