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Hans Tweetenberg said:
Hang on you're down to lynch Fang? Like, at all?
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yes, especially if to achieve a lynch. my TR on him has been getting weaker and weaker, even if i still have him as weak town read his flip is needed for the rest to move on with their PoE so i wont oppose it much

Hans Tweetenberg said:
....huh

Weird, from your earlier posts I didn't think you'd have any appetite for a Fang lynch whatsoever
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no i think u got wrong impression. i was arguing toward him being possibly townie but if its going to be his lynch or no lynch id vote for him. i prefer cp over him tho

Magic said:
kinda wanna lynch someone from the pool that had raem in their scum reads as there's a lot of overlap there.

as in people that had both aurelian and raem(not tweet as he was the first one to do it and the post he quoted i saw where he was coming from, but i feel people piggy backed it).

tpein/lethal off the top of my head had raem as scum.
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what about cp? isnt he a primary rem and aurelian suspector? a slimy one at that

Magic said:
lethal is the next best bet before odd.

in any world. i just dont really wanna lynch the guy again on day 1 as i feel bad, but his tone is off, his reads looked like they were sheeped from cp tbh, and his final 3 scum reads didn't really resonate with me.
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im taking ur points on lethal under consideration, tho i still think his catch up was decently solid. i guess he put more heart into it this time which leans at him not being as lazy as his recent town games / he may truly have something to lose this time around so he is trying harder, BUT i dont wanna lynch him when he tries harder, least not day 1 imo
 
CraigPelton said:
Which reads do you feel decent about? Here's what you said:

"minor town reads on Tweet and CP (but I'm more on the fence with CP than Tweet)"

"I do think I'm fine with your (Gram) slot"

hedged the T-Pein read

"Xad might be town?"

"I guess Tsword has been fine as well"

The bit about lethal there

Like none of these sound like you're actually town reading any of these people, so what are these town reads you feel decent about?
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I feel decent about my reads on Tweet, Gram, Psychic, Melkor, Tsword, and Lethal.
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
On topic of CP I'm a bit divided. On one hand I liked Ekkos points against him, but then there's also the fact that he went back and set the timeline straight on that Gram/Fang argument. Why would he ever do that as scum when the whole thread is having a field day with a wrong timeline? Also his "case" against Pein is decent and the fact that it gets zero traction is interesting in and of itself.
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if u look back to see again, cp did not make that post to help solve them, but to cause more chaos by keeping it open-ended and having them both wrong. the proof is - how did knowing the timeline help us change our reads on aurelian and gram, if any? the answer is it didnt, and cp didnt use it to do that

CraigPelton said:
Are you really feeling hard pressed to figure me out rn? Why are people letting ekko set their agenda lol
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what agenda?

CraigPelton said:
I said why I am changing on BPD in the post you just quoted before, and my scum read on you was based on a mistaken timeline which I also acknowledged earlier
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CraigPelton said:
it's in the second half of the sentence you just quoted...I don't have a good reason to scum read you right now.
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1. which mistaken timeline?
2. didnt u not like evans for his "weird" town read of raem cuz he said raem had similar meta to him which u disagreed with or did i get that wrong?

are those 2 unrelated? does the timeline point fix point 2? as far as i can tell they seem unrelated but u dropped point 2 entirely
 
Ekkologix said:
were u able to catch up?


why do u have cp and BPD as town?


what gives u that impression?



fang aside, who wud be ur preferred direction today? there is a lack of wagoning for pressure from u this game
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But there was also a lack of pressure from me last game as well. I still think Fang is the right way to go this day despite me not being 100.
 
Psychic said:
Hi. Why do you think I am scum? Can you elaborate?
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well im unable to connect with u much like i do when u r town

could i maybe interest u in a cp lynch? i think he is trying to pocket u

CraigPelton said:
for the bar I set for psychic she's about where I expect her to be if she's town. like I said, when I've called out psychic for lurking before she just omgus'd or threw out obvious nonsense that got her lynched. not the case here.
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she did that as town as well (omgus and all). are u saying this is something only scum indicative? cuz i have plenty of proof that says otherwise

Magic said:
nope cp is right, psychic's play isn't really like her two scum games(radiant and wrestling wars). won't go into details as to why exactly, for now to see how it develops, but not really wanting to go there as it stands either.
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psychic is playing differently by her own admission. she is intentionally trying to change her playstyle as well. those points do not hold as much as u think

Psychic said:
In MWH, I voted T-Pein because I had a scum read on him and because his slot needed to be resolved. This game he hasn't posted much for me to get a good read on him, and I guess other people feel the same, hence no traction. Without traction and pressure, his slot doesn't need to be resolve.

When I said CP is perma-scum, I was joking.
I also like to change my gameplay from time to time.
I have yet to feel any pressure this game.
I think CP expected a response from me so he can read me better. It didn't feel like he was pressuring me at all.
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@CraigPelton @Magic thoughts on her admitting to be playing differently?
 
@Magic @Grammaton thoughts on cp pls. ive been waiting too long

magic i want something other than "i cant read cp early well". please assign me a read. fake it if u have to. town or scum. GTH. whatever

same for u gram. u ignored this question twice before
 
CraigPelton said:
I think BPD could use a push tbh I usually have him as an easy town read too but not getting that this game

unvote
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I mean, my activity is always NAI. Sometimes I got time to play, sometimes I don't. Wasn't around yesterday to play and during the week I work and drive and hour both ways. You're trying to look for me being one of the most active players and pushing things left and right and that's just not what I have time or energy to do.
 
Aurelian said:
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fang pls answer me do u scum read gram now that it's proven that he voted u before BPD spoke about u?

its ok to be wrong on a position, if u accept it and move on there is a chance gram (and rest of us) can come around to seeing u as town

way i see it is ur doing urself no favors as either alignment
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
I mean, my activity is always NAI. Sometimes I got time to play, sometimes I don't. Wasn't around yesterday to play and during the week I work and drive and hour both ways. You're trying to look for me being one of the most active players and pushing things left and right and that's just not what I have time or energy to do.
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I don't think I mentioned your activity?
 
Ekkologix said:
well im unable to connect with u much like i do when u r town

could i maybe interest u in a cp lynch? i think he is trying to pocket u


she did that as town as well (omgus and all). are u saying this is something only scum indicative? cuz i have plenty of proof that says otherwise


psychic is playing differently by her own admission. she is intentionally trying to change her playstyle as well. those points do not hold as much as u think



@CraigPelton @Magic thoughts on her admitting to be playing differently?
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Hmm, Not sure what you mean by connecting...
Wait, you scumread me but you think CP is trying to pocket me? This doesn't make any sense. Am I town to you? Do you think CP and me have team equity?
I don't have any reason to scumread CP or at this time.
Also I like to change my playstyle when I'm scum and I don't do it every game lol.
Any other strong reads besides CP?
 
Aurelian said:
Why would you undermine the view of BPD being seen as town to push it to be between me and Craig when he also has backed off on town reading BPD?

Why not me vs BPD?
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who is the bolded he? craig? where was this?

i dont scum read BPD nearly as much as craig. i have BPD more in null

also i dont have u as scum either, but ur lynch is the most informative one to help people move with their PoE

so its between my top scum read and the most informative lynch for me, aka cp and you

aside from you both, null on odd BPD and nat, and lean scum on xadlin (worth a pressure), and also magic might have a point regarding lethal so also need pressure, but dont wanna day 1
 
CraigPelton said:
I don't think I mentioned your activity?
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I assumed you were sussing me because I'm not 'obv town'? Or is it because you feel I've mailed in reads, which I then clarified which of my town reads I feel decent about. I'm not really sure why you suss me or are voting me other than you're having a harder time finding me as town? That doesn't really scream like I've done suss things.
 
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