Evans
Exceptional
We've got like 6 hours, just vote Aurelian
Convincing
3 votes in and you went full yolo with a botched claim
Sorta and I`m like aaaa...? Just drop what it does from the beginning.
Ok
you turned 180 grades with this claim
Just put the chromosome in the bag
Why do you changed your stance on Grams when he tunneled you for like 30 hours?
@Grammaton are you voting this lad because he contradicts a lot? from what i've played with him it seems like he does this quite often, doesn't matter the alignment,
Anyway, if this phase ends with Aurelian and bpd as main wagons, I will vote Aurelian.
He's in my wolf list. I mean if you'd read the thread and weren't a cancerous mong, you'd be able to gauge exactly why he's right up on a lot of people's lists.
Do you think CPs push on you is townie based on your current reads list?
BPD is not happening because it'd be very ill advised and town regret it so. Game would turn miserable, in my honest opinion.
You scum again??
Can you try playing to win instead of settling personal scores pls this is dogshit
I feel you completely failed to grasp the criticism here
^ These four posts are part of Craig's early intro the game on day 1 to Evans. A key component here is that quite often Craig and Evans will be at odds, which will paint why I don't think they can be aligned as scum together. Particularly in regards with Raem, Psychic, and T-Pein as key factors here.What insult??
Craig wasn't replying to anyone here specifically but I think this post was to BPD about Evans? I would like @CraigPelton to clarify on it since I'm kind of hazy on who he's specifically addressing. Either way he's elaborating that if its about Evans he's unhappy about his way of starting the game off that way and making things already heated.If he's town then he's not trying to solve
If he's scum then he's trying to turn the game toxic right off the bat which is a lame strategy
I hate it
Tags Psychic.I want to hear from fellow town leader @Psychic
Tags Psychic again.What do you think, @Psychic ?
Craig's response to me in trying to see Grammaton as scum when he was going at me.you really think scum gram is rolling into the game like "I'm gonna get aurelian mislynched d1"? get over yourself lol
Craig asking Grammaton why he voted for me after its been clarified then or later about the mismatched timeline and why Grammaton voted me because of my question to Evans about voting and wanting T-Pein gone.@Grammaton What pinged you about Aurelian's post @ Evans btw?
Tagging Psychic a third time again.All right @Psychic I'm afraid it's that time again. You reacted to this post 50 minutes ago but haven't said anything. You've hardly said anything yet this game despite clearly being around. You know what I'm thinking. What's up?
Craig quotes and pushes BPD to give reasons/justifications for scum reading/wolf reading me.Can you explain why you think he's scum?
Craig replies to T-Pein about my slot and it being a low-bar for Grammaton.this is like the exact same post you made about Poyser wanting to lynch Lethal in Monster Hunter lol
Again illustrating like with Magic or Psychic later on, I don't think T-Pein and Craig are scum mates/aligned.brb sleep, think t-pein is the best direction
Craig posting again about his issues with Evans, referencing back to his very early posts at the start of the game with Evans opening salvo about wanting to essentially policy lynch T-Pein. Craig and T-Pein have disagreed on several things but this is interesting in that itself, Craig isn't playing on emotions but rather wants to focus on a player's content then mindlessly push a lynch but does bridge the gap about how Evans early angle was getting rid of T-Pein then saying nothing after T-Pein made some posts and tries to underscore and misrepresent Craig on illustrating that back and forth.Evans is hard to buy this game though. starts off with the I HATE T-PEIN LET'S KILL HIM shtick, then t-pein comes into the thread and plays exactly how he did when he was actually scum and suddenly Evans has nothing to say about him but shades me who is actually pointing this out. then when questioned about it he shades T-Pein but also continues to shade me. feels very off
Craig responding to Magic about potential teammates that could be bussing or pushing me if I'm scum. He really is actively seeking answers from Magic on why he locked into this posture.did you ever answer my question about who the people hesitant to vote aurelian were that you thought could be scum? I also need to ask you who is defending aurelian that you think has scum equity with him or is potentially being scummy
Craig responding to Ekko:another way to look at it if you weren't just tunneling: encouraging players to solve rather than wage personal vendettas is a pro-town move
literally led to her dropping some substance which felt like town psychic, which I was the first to acknowledge. so it led to a town read.
yeah I have reservations about it because he's not too different from MHW but Odo has made some good points and was right about him in Fallout, I tend to trust players like Magic and Odo d1 more than my own reads and also letting them get their way helps me read them
Questioning Xadlin for his reads list and logically asking him why he has a bunch of reads when he admits he hasn't followed much of the earlier events in day 1.why no read on aurelian in your list? and you seem to suggest you didn't really follow the convo so why town read him now?
Craig stating to Grammaton he had his lynch vote on me. Also states he dislikes Evans easy town reading on Raem, would say the same thing to Magic later on as well.My vote's on him
The Evans town read on RAEM is rubbing me a bit wrong rn tho
Craig responding to Evans.I said why I am changing on BPD in the post you just quoted before, and my scum read on you was based on a mistaken timeline which I also acknowledged earlier
Craig address Evans again that he still has T-Pein as scum and BPD was irrelevant to this.it does, I have t-pein as scum and nothing bpd said would make me move t-pein closer to town
Craig replying to Evans:not a single person was interested in pushing t-pein and he only has a handful of posts to work with, idk what you're expecting here. in the other game I had poyser and alco pushing him too, even before I did
and yeah I town read psychic so idk what you're talking about there
Craig telling Evans he had a specific requirement for where he town reads or scum reads Psychic. He acknowledges and says that if she wasn't immediately omgussing or acting in a tantrum emotionally fueled way he would push her lynch. On this I disagree because this about the easiest way to directly play differently but I'm not totally agreeing with Craig on it.for the bar I set for psychic she's about where I expect her to be if she's town. like I said, when I've called out psychic for lurking before she just omgus'd or threw out obvious nonsense that got her lynched. not the case here.
A longer winded reply to Evans from Craig about some of his reads and related to T-Pein, myself, and Psychic. These are all quoted multiple posts so feel free to jump into them as I'm not going to break that down quote by quote in this mega post of his. All the same its him standing his ground to Evans about the entire T-Pein discussion they've circled around multiple times now.here you go evans since you seem to have not really read my posts and are confused with my progression this game
made what I felt was a good case on him and went to sleep
this is all t-pein had to say in response to it
Magic reinforces he thinks Aurelian is scum, Gram disagrees with me on T-Pein
Then Magic says I might be right, all T-Pein says is "Cringe" and Magic drops it, don't think he ever picked it back up
I point out I don't think T-Pein and Aurelian are aligned
I explain why I feel like just letting gram have his aurelian lynch
but would still shoot t-pein if aurelian is town
literally nobody joined my t-pein wagon at all and t-pein barely acknowledged it himself and hasn't been around at all today so idk what you expected me to do today wrt t-pein besides park my vote which is kind of useless
Again replying this time to BPD, Craig points out BPD lacks a lot of drive, isn't playing remotely close to his normal town meta, and operating outside of how he would aggressively tunnel or attack other players when he was town even with self-destructive kind of actions or setting himself to get spanked for it.it's not just about activity though you aren't really pushing much of an agenda or putting much behind your reads. usually as town you have strong convictions and will even vig people who are being unanimously read town. this game you've been a wet noodle. active or not, it's quite different.
Craig disengaging from my wagon when replying to Psychic.I think we should resolve BPD or T-Pein instead of Aurelian tbdean
Craig again happy to push T-Pein's wagon.eh maybe we just lynch t-pein here
Craig replying to Magic and pointing out the weirdness in Psychic scum reading and tunneling at Magic as she got more active a few times. Craig also illustrates that Magic was kind of misframing things but it doesn't feel 'malicious' on Magic's part so he might've just made a mistake there. Either way they have more back and forths concerning her, Evans, Raem.She already had you as a scum read before you so much as mentioned her so you're just not framing this truthfully at all. she clearly had something against your posts already. of course the timeline matters given your framing of it as omgus.
I want to move past the aggressive entrance, a tad distasteful for my liking. You can all relax though, I assure you I'm townI think Fang and Craig are wolfy. I think Nat and Odd are on the sidelines a bit as well. Last game, Nat was at least asking questions and trying to clarify things for herself. Odd has popped in the day some aggressive comments and that's it. Also I think Xad throwing a vote on my wagon and then disappearing is a bad look as well.
I gave Tweet some townie points for his assessment on Melkor being town. I thought that Tweet mentioned a few things about the usual town play that I see from Melkor that I thought was a good observation considering Tweet isn't as familiar with Melkor as others.
A key component here is that quite often Craig and Evans will be at odds, which will paint why I don't think they can be aligned as scum together.
Craig posting again about his issues with Evans, referencing back to his very early posts at the start of the game with Evans opening salvo about wanting to essentially policy lynch T-Pein. Craig and T-Pein have disagreed on several things but this is interesting in that itself, Craig isn't playing on emotions but rather wants to focus on a player's content then mindlessly push a lynch but does bridge the gap about how Evans early angle was getting rid of T-Pein then saying nothing after T-Pein made some posts and tries to underscore and misrepresent Craig on illustrating that back and forth.
Evans is hard to buy this game though. starts off with the I HATE T-PEIN LET'S KILL HIM shtick, then t-pein comes into the thread and plays exactly how he did when he was actually scum and suddenly Evans has nothing to say about him but shades me who is actually pointing this out. then when questioned about it he shades T-Pein but also continues to shade me. feels very off
My vote is still on T-Pein and I said I still want him gone
that doesn't contradict anything I said mate
This whole post reeks as is the previous about having me as a scum lean lol
Like, it’s completely not true
No?
I literally commented on his play and then you post this
“Nothing to say about him” is not true
oh nvm I thought you said that in response to being asked about t-pein
What games are you basing my history with CP off of exactly?
Do you think I'm scum then?
Convincing
3 votes in and you went full yolo with a botched claim
Sorta and I`m like aaaa...? Just drop what it does from the beginning.
Ok
you turned 180 grades with this claim
Just put the chromosome in the bag
Why do you changed your stance on Grams when he tunneled you for like 30 hours?
@Grammaton are you voting this lad because he contradicts a lot? from what i've played with him it seems like he does this quite often, doesn't matter the alignment,
Anyway, if this phase ends with Aurelian and bpd as main wagons, I will vote Aurelian.
Post #1503 https://onelastforum.com/threads/final-fantasy-xiv-mafia-game-thread.3800/page-51#post-251237 for Craig
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