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Ok? I do think a lot can be gleaned from a potential Ratchet flip, especially in regards to Lethal, Melkor, and Psychic and now Ultra.
I don't trust him.
Well are you going to try and get my flip or are you just waiting for someone else to start it off for you?
 
What sort of info could he have...?
Has to be some sort of tracking me thinks.
Probably why he wants ultra to talk first and catch him on a lie or admit to it.
tracker is dead which is why i dont think it's really anything. if it was cop he would have come out stronger with it. just contrasting to how he played it last game.
 
tracker is dead which is why i dont think it's really anything. if it was cop he would have come out stronger with it. just contrasting to how he played it last game.
Could be Watcher, could be Voyeur - if it's nothing he has a lot of explaining to do.
 
Could be Watcher, could be Voyeur - if it's nothing he has a lot of explaining to do.
i considered watcher but that would likely mean he watched flower which i didnt think was likely, although he did town read her.

voyeur wouldn't give you names.

it could be follower again but then i assume it would be more conclusive.
 
But you're role speccing enough to claim my role is fake.

Haha walk you through my claim like it's so difficult. My claim was pretty straightforward, Fang, you asking this feels like busy work.

My reads are all over the place. Just got to read my posts.
I think your speed reading a bit here. Gramm is the one who was asking if your role being so on the nose with Hime's if it was fake, I didn't say that. What exactly is me asking you about this coming off as 'busywork' here?

This response doesn't really marry me to the idea you are town though.
 
Well are you going to try and get my flip or are you just waiting for someone else to start it off for you?
If you end up flipping scum then its informative for Psychic and dealing with her as a result of that moving forward.
Vice versa with her flipping and resolving your slot, your play around her has been suspicious and out-of-character enough from your norm as town that its enough to speculate your scummy.
 
i genuinely dont think ratchet is scum here or at least it's very hard to see.

when i pressured him last phase he went all in are defending himself and then OMGUSing me back. he could easily do the same to aurelian and psychic to dirty them but isn't. like i understand he'd switch up his playstyle, but as scum im sure he would at least go out of his way to dirty them a bit or at least put greater effort in shutting them down.
 
i genuinely dont think ratchet is scum here or at least it's very hard to see.

when i pressured him last phase he went all in are defending himself and then OMGUSing me back. he could easily do the same to aurelian and psychic to dirty them but isn't. like i understand he'd switch up his playstyle, but as scum im sure he would at least go out of his way to dirty them a bit or at least put greater effort in shutting them down.
Why would Ratchet omgus Psychic who his entire play around her as being suspicious with easily town reading her?
 
@Psychic What exactly is your point against me? I'm not responding to all that -

1 - When I say I haven't read the case on Melkor, I'm referring to the one Magic asked me about, I believe he posted it the start of Day 2.

2 - In regards to Fang, I'm more interested in his direction yesterday. Because you were a near-universal townread - his vote wasn't likely to elicit anything but posture about where he wants to go, whereas mine at least was on a player that could, plausibly, have been pressured into claiming. I didn't get chance to switch as when I did get back, apparently the day was almost over.

3 - I can only give my honest opinion. You'll note I've specifically not tried to obstruct the Melkor wagon outright so I again reject the notion that I'm somehow tied to him. However, all I've got is my opinion, and I've seen him play scummy as Town - I have far, far more experience with him than you do, and I'm confident that anyone with similar levels of experience with him as me, perhaps even he himself, would tend to agree that he can play very scummy even when he's town. It's simply a byproduct of how he plays. So much rings ingenuine it feels often that you have him in a slam dunk - I've seen him lynched convinced he would flip Scum only to see him flip town and ask myself "how the hell is he town?".

I think there are valid points against him and you'll also note I shut down the angle that some were using to townread him, that being his surprise at his double vote being revealed. You asked what my motivation was, I contend that it's your job to work this one out - if I'm trying to save him to the point I would put my neck on the line for him, I like to think I'd do a better job than half-assing it. What do you think?

this reminds me i should go look at his other scum game.

i will concede you obviously have far more experience with him but nothing ive seen from him here has shown he looks scummy as town. @Hans Tweetenberg said similar in that he usually gives town vibes/impressions from his play and that's probably partly why he's been scum killed night 1 consistently on here for the past few games.

im not exactly denying that he has the capability of looking scummy as town as im sure you've seen it, but it might be a perspective thing too. usually i can follow his progressions or train of thought pretty well.
 
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