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Ratchet said:
I mean you're voting me or leaning there so yes if you're going to lynch me day 1 you're going to have to out some work in.

If you're going to tell me that my posts are too long then I have nothing to add to you to be honest, except I'd like you to explain to me how you'll be reflecting on your game day 2 when I flip town.
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Dude, wtf. I am not voting you. For now at least. What you're talking about. I literally said i won't vote anyone before catching up to dude who asked me to vote you. Also earlier i said i'd like to get you investigated.

Ngl, rn you remind me of Batman Mafia self. So scum one. You know, defensive af for no good reason and threating with flaming people and all. So not good.

Idk how to say this without being disrespectful but i'll ignore notifications from you until i catch up. Not because i don't value your effort, but because i don't want be distracted all the time.
 
@Grammaton I'm going to put my cards on the table here and say that I actually expect you to be able to read me with my posting being as it is, and you not doing so correctly is of concern. Not scummy, but of all the players in the game I think you're the one I would hold this expectation of and I don't like that I'm not seeing it.

I'm saying this now because last game when I asked you your read on me you neglected to give one, and I accepted that without voicing my inner concern which was you'd just seen me as scum and thus should have good insight on that game. You were scum of course but that was a misplay on my part hence why I'm posting this now.

I don't expect you to flip your read if you're genuine with it, but I am interested in what you think about this expectation I'm expressing here, and specifically what you think that means for my alignment.
 
Whicker said:
Hey all. I've just skimmed so far since I got off last night. I'll be busy this evening, but I'll do my best to catch up more thoroughly tonight.

I get why I'm being sus'd off of being different from last game, but 1. my activity last game involved a much lengthier catch-up, 2. I haven't yet had time to dig into anything deep, and 3. I wasn't town last game so I had tried significantly harder to look townie.

Lethal seems to be playing similarly to last game but everyone town reads him here? I think his stance on Magic is good.

Surface level I still like Ratchet. Aersoldorf seems consistent with the one game I played with him so far. I also town read Aurelian
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I'll agree on some things. Regarding Lethal, he hasn't been put in a position of being pressured or pushed by anyone yet where historically he's collapsed pretty easily when scum. Last game he subbed in for another player but since his teammates were Gramm, Poyser, and Magic;, they played a different tactic to diverge and break the wagon to save him.

1. Poyser focused on undermining Lethal's lynch and attacking BPD
2. Gramm from the onset of interactions with BPD in day 1 was tunneling and aggressive with him
3. Magic continued to anchor himself around the Lord Melkor lynch before the CFD by Ultra went down on Haza/RDK
4. It was probable then that they told him and guided Lethal to just focus on BPD and Melkor iirc

In the game before that, Ratchet's FF game, Lethal I think was the scum team's godfather and tried to save himself after getting tripped up by Gramm (town) by claiming he was SK and they need him. Not scum reading Lethal currently but just saying he hasn't been put in a situation to see how he copes with stress and obviously I would say the past scum team members are all in this game (Gramm, Magic, Lethal, RDK is a sub and Poyser isn't in this one) so it'd be interesting to see how they react if Lethal finds himself pushed.

Thoughts on Craig? Grammaton? Alco? Ekko? BPD? Evans?
 
Chuck said:
Dude, wtf. I am not voting you. For now at least. What you're talking about. I literally said i won't vote anyone before catching up to dude who asked me to vote you. Also earlier i said i'd like to get you investigated.
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My mistake then, the sentiment is the same though. You have me at scum and would see me lynched today, so let's work through that.
Chuck said:
Ngl, rn you remind me of Batman Mafia self. So scum one. You know, defensive af for no good reason and threating with flaming people and all. So not good.
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I don't think I'm being defensive for no good reason, I'm close to if not the top wagon. Now if I'm town here what do YOU expect of me in this position? Because to me, the best way to play this is to cross examine the wagon and ensure that some value is gained from my mislynch. It might not happen and that's great but it could and very likely could happen while I'm afk. So I have quite a bit of urgency here.

I don't think this is at all like Batman. That game I was caught via day investigation and before that had *very* little pressure. If you're genuine, I think you're looking for ammunition to fuel your areas, you're not considering the information in front of you and evaluating on that.

I haven't actually flamed anyone either.

Chuck said:
Idk how to say this without being disrespectful but i'll ignore notifications from you until i catch up. Not because i don't value your effort, but because i don't want be distracted all the time.
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Well I'm doing everything within my ability here to cross examine the suspicion and hopefully clear myself, I need some effort in return to be willing to do that.
 
someone to give me a summary on current happenings
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43 pages is doable but it makes me be more of a passive presence lagging behind
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
I feel like I should comment on this post considering Ekko's progression on my slot is the reason why Magic is after Ekko. I also have some issues with what Magic said.

You'll see something I don't like right off the bat with the bolded part. I genuinely tried my best early on to disengage with Fang because I didn't think it would be productive to anyone to continue. I specifically made a post (post 92) replying to Ekko saying 'I am trying to disengage with Fang', which Magic liked. So for Magic to say I continued to argue with Fang, and to go even further and say I was slight pushing him (which I never did), seems completely done in bad faith and a way for Magic to try and control a narrative. Magic also says 'Ekko's mind isn't changed in the slightest' from thinking me and Fang are town versus town. Does that also not imply that something from me and Fang should have convinced Ekko that one of us is not town? Just feels like more attempts at controlling the narrative.

Now, with Ekko's read on me, I actually don't have a problem. He did say IF I was town, I should drop my argument with Fang, who he read town. He never really said I was town during this time, just that he wanted to avoid any unnecessary conflict (I think this comes from a town Ekko). When Magic pushed Ekko on his town read on me (which Ekko never gave), that's when Ekko came out with what I felt like a gun to head town read on me, and I didn't have a problem with that. I don't like how Magic is trying to still push the narrative that Ekko's progression and town read on me is somehow indicative to him being wolf.

On Ekko being a leader, I have no issue with that play. I found him super easy as town in Elden Ring and I do think he's town in this game. I don't like how Magic is being dismissive of Ekko here just because he deems the games that Ekko adopted this play style as being not good games by Ekko. I think this is an attempt to discredit what Ekko is doing this game.
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A lot of this has nothing to do with what the point I'm making lol.

Ekko didn't give a town read to you while repeatedly calling it Town v town. I found that preemptive. As cp said earlier it looks like the town read got stronger after the fact rather than at the time of all this happening so there was really no reason to be trying to get you off anything you were doing rather than letting it play out so he could read your slot.

Also I'm sure you can agree that even the lean that you were towny for taking your time with your response (opposed to just not around) doesn't actually make much sense.

As for the leader thing, he took on this approach because it wasn't working. Its not me auggesting it as an assumption, it was the exact reason he gave to adopt it. He's only been town when doing this. He's done better in every game because of it. The fact he reverted to an older Meta, that he has done before as scum, would make sense as scum as it's more of a Comfort zone thing.

The stuff with tpein is the same way. He stated in an earlier game that tpein is always Paranoid about his slot and so towncore hasn't been a thing really. This game it started off the gate. I'm not trying to discredit either of them, but it pings me because it's screaming in my face.
 
Also why. Again yall need to make your slots readable. If we want to win everyone needs to contribute some shit to read them off of if they're town. It can't be like pulling teeth otherwise you'll be POE'd.
 
Whicker said:
Hey all. I've just skimmed so far since I got off last night. I'll be busy this evening, but I'll do my best to catch up more thoroughly tonight.

I get why I'm being sus'd off of being different from last game, but 1. my activity last game involved a much lengthier catch-up, 2. I haven't yet had time to dig into anything deep, and 3. I wasn't town last game so I had tried significantly harder to look townie.

Lethal seems to be playing similarly to last game but everyone town reads him here? I think his stance on Magic is good.

Surface level I still like Ratchet. Aersoldorf seems consistent with the one game I played with him so far. I also town read Aurelian
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Why do you like ratchet and consistent in what way. Have you progressed at all in your reads on me or cp.
 
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