I have persuaded people and you repeatedly persuade them off of it while getting them to go for town. That's the reality ratchet. You do own the fault of town because you hold a position of sway among people that ride your dick. As I already stated most of the people willing to vote ultra, which includes mango btw, have died and flipped town.
This includes aurelian, Mango, ratchet, and melkor. And even tweet thought he was scum when he was still trying!
Dead town want ultra dead yet let's ignore that too