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19:30|Master Megatron can be as fast as a sonic bomber.
9:58|This is fast enough to travel the distance to Earth from outside the solar system in 20 seconds.
9461000000000/20 = 1577924.952335 times faster than the speed of light.
A. Like their G1 predecessors, Armada leaders must have at least a city level of powerful performance. At least according to Megatron's Armada Dreamwave profile, he has the same antimatter power source as G1 Megatron.
Now one gram of antimatter reacting with one gram of ordinary matter produces an energy of 42.96 kilotons. This is the city level for just 1 gram. With just 3 grams of antimatter, Megatron could overcome a Big City-level destructive force or 130 kilotons. And Optimus Prime... is approximately equal to him.View attachment 1484
we know that galvatron in energon is (according to his toy bio) ten times stronger than he was as megatron so thats somethingi really like this cross series consistent scaling
personally i think this would put armada at mountain level with g1 megs
STAR BUSTING: SUPERNOVA VS SOLAR SYSTEM
Something I've seen argued about is whether or not a supernova is powerful enough to destroy the Solar System.
Some calcs say it should take multiple "Foe" (which i will use as the baseline measurement here because duh) but I've seen lower estimates that put it like a dozen times more than to destroy our sun, which considering even our own sun when it runs out of fuel and dies will still destroy all the inner planets, I can almost kind of see that as a possibility
But this is important because, in transformers, theres a concerning amount of weapons that are compared to or directly powered by supernovae, as well as characters who can destroy stars, or are directly compared to the power of stars.
As an example of weapons, several versions of the Star Saber are stated to be able to destroy stars, as well as being comparable or equal to the Requiem Blaster, which draws upon the power of a supernova.
The Armada Star Saber is considered relative to the Requiem Blaster, and the Skyboom Shield is durable enough to withstand either of them; the Mini-Con weapons are all around the same power.
Omega Doom, the Shattered Glass (evil mirrorverse) counterpart of Omega Supreme has an arm that he can fire as a star killing missile, powerful enough to cause the local star to go supernova and destroy Cybertron, as well as the entire solar system.
Nexus warns that the blast will destroy everything around for light-days
Just 1 light-day equals over 173 Astronomical Units, which would make sense, that equals at least a 173 AU destruction radius
This isn't the only instance of solar system destroying cybertronian technology; in the prose story Alignment, set in the Marvel G1 continuity, we see the Decepticons self destruct a planet so hard the entire system and everything for several light years is sucked into a black hole:
Now I didn't do all this just to repost feats, my question here is, some of these weapons are stated to be as strong as a supernova, some simultaneously claiming a supernova is strong enough to destroy a star system; how much energy is needed to destroy an entire solar system, and how strong must these supernovae be?
I've seen so many different yields to destroy a star system, so im curious what the answer is
Core Collapse. Gravity makes everything fall down, with "down" being defined as the center of gravity of all the objects. So a nebula contracts as gravity tries to squeeze into a tiny ball.
Soon the nebula contracts into what they call a protostar. But at some point the temperature at the center of the protostar becomes high enough to ignite a fusion reaction. A star is born.
The fusion reaction emits lots of electromagnetic radiation, i.e., light. The radiation pressure of the light brings the star's gravitational collapse to a halt. The star's body can no longer fall down, it is "propped up" by radiation pressure.
Core collapse is when one of several mechanisms kicks out the prop. The star then abruptly collapses.
This means that instead of a small steady stream of the star's hydrogen is slowly being burnt in the core, suddenly all of the hydrogen is burnt in a fraction of a second. The supernova explosion obliterates the star, leaving only a small neutron star or black hole. Millions of years from now alien astronomers in an adjacent galaxy notice that our galaxy has suddenly doubled in brightness.
The mechanisms that can cause core collapse are electron capture; exceeding the Chandrasekhar limit; pair-instability; or photodisintegration. Which mechanism does the dirty deed more or less depends upon the star's mass. Details can be found in the Wikipedia article.
Pair-instability supernovae can emit from 5 to 100 Foe of energy (5×10^44 to 1×10^46 joules). Electron capture, Chandrasekhar limit and photodisintegration supernovae regularly emit about 100 Foe of energy (1×10^46 joules).
Okay, so i found this image of optimus with the forge, its a fandom image so it wont load right lmfaoFinding the size of the Forge of Solus Prime
The Forge of Solus Prime apparently has a small Neutron Star in its core, which is curious
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now i need to find how big it is to find its hypothetical mass
now this is absurd lmfao so its probably not that big, at least whenever a normal character holds it, but it was pretty funny to calc |
just had a mind melting realization
i calculated the destruction of moonbase two before via kinetic energy
what of Unicron himself
i feel like we've kind of forgotten Unicron is fuckin HAULING ASS through this film
if i can get his speed i can get his casual durability
note: unicron can obviously use FTL to some degree otherwise itd take him centuries to get anywhere, so im not gonna count any FTL speeds for this