Transformers calc archive

[Thirteen prime]

In his first appearance, Trypticon was able to easily destroy the volcano that housed the Autobot headquarters.

This is Mount St. Helens, whose height is 2549 meters.
In the battle between Trypticon and Metroplex, they easily lift and throw each other, and can also lift mountains, which is approximately 70685835 tons.

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It can easily lift and swallow a supertanker (due to its size) of up to 320,000 tons.
If the animation is to be believed, the shot of Metroplex and Trypticon setting up the Eiffel Tower shows him to be about 1,100 feet tall, give or take.

2:40|Trypticon is approximately half the size of Mount St. Helens, whose height is 2500 meters.
2:40|Easily withstands shots from the ark ship.

6:50|This is enough to clear the asteroid belt.

 

[grillmaster]

In his first appearance, Trypticon was able to easily destroy the volcano that housed the Autobot headquarters.

This is Mount St. Helens, whose height is 2549 meters.View attachment 1533
In the battle between Trypticon and Metroplex, they easily lift and throw each other, and can also lift mountains, which is approximately 70685835 tons.

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It can easily lift and swallow a supertanker (due to its size) of up to 320,000 tons.View attachment 1534
If the animation is to be believed, the shot of Metroplex and Trypticon setting up the Eiffel Tower shows him to be about 1,100 feet tall, give or take.
View attachment 1535
2:40|Trypticon is approximately half the size of Mount St. Helens, whose height is 2500 meters.
2:40|Easily withstands shots from the ark ship.

6:50|This is enough to clear the asteroid belt.

the mass of a mountain should be in the billions of tons btw, but otherwise this is all good

 

[grillmaster]

the arks laser clearing through the asteroid belt is notable, but i also am curious about for example calculating the original feat from the comics, where the autobots destroyed a cluster of asteroids that threatened to destroy cybertron

 

[Thirteen prime]

the arks laser clearing through the asteroid belt is notable, but i also am curious about for example calculating the original feat from the comics, where the autobots destroyed a cluster of asteroids that threatened to destroy cybertron

As I remember, this is an asteroid belt outside those located at the edge of the solar system, and to even threaten a planet at least the size of Saturn you need the largest asteroids, as for me, from a hundred to more kilometers in diameter.

 

[grillmaster]

As I remember, this is an asteroid belt outside those located at the edge of the solar system, and to even threaten a planet at least the size of Saturn you need the largest asteroids, as for me, from a hundred to more kilometers in diameter.

not just that, it was the firepower to destroy ALL OF THEM
actually just thought about this
so if cybertrons KE was however many joules (4.3e36-4.09e38)
and it withstood that
and it was going to be destroyed by these asteroids
does that mean the firepower of just the bots on the ark and the ship itself is already comparable, cause thats insane
this may be a bit of an overestimate but consider how big and durable cybertron is, those would have to be some insane asteroids to destroy it

 

[grillmaster]

semi related to this actually from my watching of part of transformers energon we see the autobots ship survive a barrage from unicrons surface turrets
i really should try to calc that whole fight it should be lots of insane shit

 

[grillmaster]

horrific news something i should add, i forgot Liege Maximo's solar compactor from Alignment

Furious, it turned on the nearest Warworld, charged its solar
compactor and fired. The Warworld weathered the blast… but
only just. Its shielding failed, and the energy feedback
punctured gaping wounds in its hull. The Liege Maximo
charged the solar compactor, fired again… and the Warworld
disappeared in a colossal fireball.

We know from when he obliterates Megatron its compared to an exploding sun (which would match its name honestly), so its presumably a gun that shoots supernovas
and the Decepticon Warworld survived it so
Post-G2 Warworld Shields = 1 Foe >= (Give or take, since it still failed and took damage)

even surviving a direct hit with exploding star levels of energy is nuts, adding this to the calcs list i guess even if it isnt really a calc

 

[grillmaster]

Galaxy Force Primus' shoulder cannons according to his bio can also destroy stars
00 God of Creation Primus
Function: God of Creation
Transformation: Planet (Seibertron) / Super Colossal Spaceship
Ability: The creator and God of all Transformers. Since the creation of the Transformers he was thought to be a legend, but his true form is a colossal Transformer that turns into their home world of Seibertron. His existence is to cherish the entire universe, the exact opposite of the evil Galactic Emperor Unicron. Capable of flight in ultra-subspace in his spaceship mode, thought to have existed in another dimension’s universe before the creation of the Transformers. His existence is wrapped in mystery.
Character: A being who loves peace and order throughout the universe.
Weapon(s): Planet cannons on both shoulders can destroy stars. His Brightness Shot slices through planets.
PWR...NA; INT...NA; SPD...NA; END...NA; RNK...NA; CRG...NA; FPR...NA; TECH...NA; TTL...NA

and on the english version they're called Stellar Convertor cannons so they too should be around this level (possibly/probably higher)

 

[grillmaster]

not much calculating to be done with either of these but its good to know

 

[grillmaster]

so idk how big unicron and cybertron are in the unicron trilogy but im going with earth sized, as it seems like the simplest estimate while being more conservative than using comics size

 

[grillmaster]

actually i can do earth sized and saturn sized since cybertron primus is clearly meant to be representative of more than just UT cybertron, like he has kolkular and iacon on him

 

[grillmaster]

so i dragged myself to watch clips from transformers energon (misery)
actually found some pretty good feats i believe

the autobots' ship is able to withstand continuous weapons fire from unicrons body

Optimus Supreme's attack is able to do this to Unicron

making him flinch like this is an achievement considering his head is like the size of a moon

this energy attack from unicron's horns

the whole planet got shattered in one frame
View attachment 1590
it had disintegrated totally beyond sight within one second

unicrons lasers from all over his body also crippled the rest of the autobots prior to their upgrading

posting scenes here for reference

 

[grillmaster]

unicron moves super damn fast considering hes as big as a planet
Crimson Dragoon pointed this out before with Primus and i did the math for og movie unicron and comics unicron but the kinetic energy of him moving at these speeds should insane

the Primus amped Optimus Supreme is able to fucking THROW UNICRON LOOK AT THIS THROW

this fight coming up is the funniest shit ever to me

unicron sprinting is a surreal image but again insane KE
these guys are throwing super fast punches as well


unicron quite humorously tanks his planet busting death ball being exploded in his face

 

[grillmaster]

unicron started fucking tweaking atp

he grabs optimus at point blank range and hits him multiple times with his planet destroying chest cannon
also lol unicron walking

the way he starts fighting is just hysterical to me after hitting prime he walks over and just starts kicking the shit out of him

HE KEEPS SHOOTING HIM WHILE HES DOWN

 

[grillmaster]

unicron is incredibly funny in this its amazing
also featswise that planet busting cannon ANNIHILATES THREE PLANETS IN ONE SHOT
speed, range, and blast radius feat all in one that blast is insane


unicron smacking the shit out of optimus with his giant robot fists


considering the sheer scale and distances these two are fighting at, these blasts are moving at frankly obscene speeds

unicron destroying blizzard planet with his chest cannon
technically destroying the half of it that remains but whatever you get my point the whole thing instantly shatters and then disintegrates and apparently gets sucked into unicron

 

[grillmaster]

Speaking of TFC feats, Galvatron and Starscream’s final clash left a giant hole on Gigantion



Gigantion is supposed to be star-sized too. TFC kinda said it in a non-direct way (it wasn’t a star because of its rings, not size) while GF just outright said it’s as large as a star

this feat Crimson posted
that'd be a big fuckin hole but idk how we calculate this

 

[grillmaster]

gigantion does not seem to be a solid planet, and if it was im pretty sure a planet this big would become a black hole
then again actually it has CYBER KEY POWEEERRRRR so maybe that keeps it imploding or something

 

[grillmaster]

posting scenes here for reference

using unicrons actual figure for this
optimus supreme hits unicron in the face and knocks his head back
assuming unicron is as tall as the earth is wide here as a low end estimate
12,742 km/505 pixels = 25.2316831683 km per pixel
unicrons head is 65 pixels tall (not counting his horns)
1,640 km tall
this is larger than the dwarf planet haumea, which isnt bad
finding a mass for this is gonna be a damn pain though
hypothetically going by how much smaller his head is than the earth i got 7.6864542e+23 kg
this would i think be pretty light considering unicrons made of metal but we're assuming hes earth sized for this


this happens in 1 second

 

[grillmaster]

it knocks part of his upper body back as well but im not even gonna ATTEMPT to try and figure out what percent of unicron moved by this lmfao
i guess you could just say 50% assuming its his whole upper body idfk

 

[Thirteen prime]

If the metal is indeed made from the compacted subatomic matter of neutron stars, we're talking about a completely different scale of density and strength.

A teaspoon of neutron star matter would have a mass of around 4 billion tons, as you mentioned. That's an incredible density, with a typical neutron star having a density of around 10^14 times that of water!

Let's reassess the strength required for Optimus Prime to break Six Shot's armor. Assuming the armor has a similar density to neutron star matter, we can estimate the force required to break it.

Using the same calculations as before, but with the much higher density of neutron star matter, we get:

Force_required ≈ Yield_strength × Surface_area × Thickness
≈ 10^14 Pa × 15 square meters × 1.5 meters (avg. thickness)
≈ 2.25 × 10^22 N (or 225 quintillion Newtons)

Now, to calculate Optimus Prime's strength, we can use the same formula:

Optimus_Prime_Strength ≈ Force_required / (Mass × Acceleration_due_to_gravity)
≈ 2.25 × 10^22 N / (15,000 kg × 9.8 m/s²)
≈ 1.53 × 10^20 N/kg (or approximately 1.53 billion G)

That's an astonishing 1.53 billion G of strength required to break Six Shot's armor, made from the compacted subatomic matter of neutron stars!

I think we can safely say that Optimus Prime's strength is truly astronomical, rivaling the incredible forces found in the universe's most extreme objects.