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[Aurelian]

lol, that all your thoughts?

No, I'll explain when I'm back at home in 20 mins or so, harder to do that on mobile.

 

[Lindltaylor]

@Mr. Reloaded any thoughts on any players here other than Fuji you can share?

 

[Arne Slot]

Sure, first, I had Nibel as early town on day 1 because he actually made a point of Bachi not talking Robotic, a sentiment that I reciprocated as well. He later just became null to me because he kinda just dipped and left off mid way. Then end of day happened where I disagreed with his indie theory post and his posts with Gad just came off weaker to me between the two.

It's why I always had Gad as town and Nibel as scum if it's between them. But to me Rugrat was a stronger scum read than Nibel so voted there. Saw Tweet above me and asked him if he could, and he did.

did you ever voice any suspicion of nibel prior to voting him? fr

 

[Arne Slot]

Tbh, would Nibel buss his scum mate like this if Melkor and him were aligned?

he kept naming melkor as his scum read and voting him but he hardly tried to get anyone to follow, I'm not ruling out them being teamed fr

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Mr. Reloaded any thoughts on any players here other than Fuji you can share?

I've been on Yoho's case since D2 but nobody wanted to go that direction so meh.

 

[Lindltaylor]

did you ever voice any suspicion of nibel prior to voting him? fr

Only on day 1 when I replied to Gram about my null read on Nibel. After that the posts you quoted were one of my first posts day 2. Nothing else before that.

 

[Arne Slot]

I don't understand Lind's progression on nibel this game at all

I’m liking Bachi more from his posts. I’m not seeing the robotic talk that Hans mentioned honestly - And in this regard, town lean on Nibel too for making the same observation.

1. Nibel - Town
2. Magic - Null
3. Lord Melkor - Scum
4. Gram - Null
5. Tweet - Scum
6. Tempest - Null
8. Gad - Town
9. Aurelian - Null
12. Mr. Reloaded - Town
13. Fuji - Town
16. Bachi - Town
18. Rugrat - Null

He opened the game with a town read on him

I had him as light town lean earlier, but he's disappeared almost entirely since and has only popped in to defend himself against Ratchet.

He's gone back to null to me.

Later on Gram asks for thoughts on nibel and lind says he's gone down to null for inactivity, okay

My case on Rugrat is essentially this:

He has Magic and me as 100% obvious scum, but in his next read list has the two of us with other players listed in no color below:


I don't know what happened in between, especially on my slot as he goes on to say next that Poyser made "EXTREMELY EXCELLENT" points about me here to Gram:


I don't think Tweet was ever on my wagon. I don't know where Rugrat got that info from and what credence that lends to him because this was Tweet's entire voting pattern last day phase:

I think the last vote landed on Lethal, I couldn't find a final vote count.

He's basing his scum read on me based on Poyser's case, fine, then he bases his town read on Tweet based on others' town reads as well - remember this point.
And then he goes on to suspect Magic just because Magic supposedly isn't going after the bigger fish or in this case, the player Rugrat wants lynched - Gram - which I just disagree hard with. If Magic has a better feeling about Gad, just go with the player he scum reads more. Player caliber is secondary to just lynching scum.


I'll say this again, I disagreed with this tinfoil, but in general I just don't like subjective tinfoils like this. Subjective points are all flimsy because they can only be proven after the fact and is generally just scum motivated more than not.


Again, already addressed point 1 and even if that's a philosophical clash between Rugrat and myself, coming to point to:
Again, why are you calling back to Poyser to support your decision if you already didn't think Lethal was town anyway? This goes back to my point on Tweet above where Rugrat says he doesn't have a specific town read on Tweet, but since he has picked up numerous town leans from others, Rugrat views him as town too.

You're burdening others with the responsibility of your reads rather than carrying it yourself, Rugrat.


But I thought last day phase, your reads were based on what Poyser thought. So what's your read now on Poyser?

later on lind drops a big case on rugrat

Alright well I'm categorically not lynching Gad here

vote lynch Nibel

tweet comes in and votes nibel

Vote lynch Nibel

1. Nibel - Scum
2. Magic - Town
3. Lord Melkor - Town lean
5. Tweet - Town
6. Tempest - Town lean
8. Gad - Town lean
9. Aurelian - Town lean
11. Poyser - Scum lean
12. Mr. Reloaded - Null
13. Fuji - Town lean
14. Yoho - Null
15. Flower - Null
16. Bachi - Town lean
17. RDK - Null
18. Rugrat - Scum

suddenly lind votes nibel and has him as scum? why? he never mentioned nibel except for the posts I'd already quoted

I don't mind the Nibel vote, but what's your read on Rugrat? Do you agree with my case on him?

this comes off very "how do you do fellow nibel voters, but what do you think about RUGRAT?" lmao. This guy has given no reason for why he's on nibel right now, plus he just made a big case on rugrat!

Rugrat is typically perma-null to me, can't say I paid any attention to your case but I guess I might as well read it

Alright I glanced over it now. I could come up with ideas for why he's playing the way he is especially around Magic but I'm not about to provide excuses for him. Sooooo I suppose I can lend my vote for this

vote lynch Rugrat

and it worked!

Reading through Nibel's ISO here:

This post and the subsequent one below give me a pause because it's actually something I agreed with at that stage as well:

I did find Melkor opportunistic on Bachi, and didn't really see the robotic talk angle on Bachi either.

His subsequent post to Ratchet:

And then his scum reads of Ratchet and Melkor do track with his posts through the day. He did vote before Gram and still kept his scum read on Melkor.

The caveat I can see is his reads list below:

He still has Ekko's slot as either indie or town and says even Gram can be either indie or town, but it's a theory. Magic told me early on that Ultra would likely not put indies in his games, and Gad also quoted Nibel with the same after this post.

If Nibel has experience in Ultra's games like the other two (Magic and Gad), then I wouldn't see a reason for him to make the indie spec bar from just being scared to town read them outright.

and now he's iso'ing Nibel, the guy he just voted and put as "scum" and it doesn't appear that he had any reason to vote or scum read him at all...fr

 

[Lindltaylor]

this comes off very "how do you do fellow nibel voters, but what do you think about RUGRAT?" lmao. This guy has given no reason for why he's on nibel right now, plus he just made a big case on rugrat!

Lol I shifted my vote to Rugrat because like I said I had a stronger scum read on him.

and now he's iso'ing Nibel, the guy he just voted and put as "scum" and it doesn't appear that he had any reason to vote or scum read him at all...fr

As for this ^, I wasn't really active before this, so couldn't have mentioned anything about Nibel prior.

But I remember Magic asking me about this on day 2. I told him why. You can find it in my ISO.

 

[Flower]

I don't think he'd play this way as scum. Coasting like this just isn't his style.

This is wrong btw. He only had 216 posts in Fallout (his only Ranked scum game) and 159 in Fang's game as scum when the Top posters had 600-700 posts.

 

[Lindltaylor]

This is wrong btw. He only had 216 posts in Fallout (his only Ranked scum game) and 159 in Fang's game as scum when the Top posters had 600-700 posts.

I didn't play those games, but even then I don't think his posts in those games had the content that his posts in this games have. Most of his posts are either troll posts or "help me catch up" posts.

Scum Fuji would at least try to contribute in some way and express awareness of the game state.

 

[Flower]

Almost 6pm and I'm still not finished with work T-T.

 

[Lindltaylor]

Almost 6pm and I'm still not finished with work T-T.

Logging off from work before 6 PM is a luxury I wish I had.

 

[Flower]

Logging off from work before 6 PM is a luxury I wish I had.

Been in the office all day. Just waiting for an E-Mail now, but it hasn't arrived yet. Fucking ass cuz I could have left 1h ago already.

 

[Flower]

I didn't play those games, but even then I don't think his posts in those games had the content that his posts in this games have. Most of his posts are either troll posts or "help me catch up" posts.

Scum Fuji would at least try to contribute in some way and express awareness of the game state.

Kinda see it tbh. I ISO'd his posts in Fallout and can see he had actual content in those. Although some of his posts were stuff like "I have nothing" or "gib tldr" as well.

 

[Yoho]

Good morning

 

[Magic]

vote reloaded

Let's just finish this unless someone is waiting for something else

 

[RDK]

vote reloaded

 

[Flower]

Good morning

Vote Reloaded, Yoho.

 

[Flower]

This day phase is fucking slow.

 

[Arne Slot]

Overall, Nibel could still be scum, but I'm feeling a little less confident on it than before.

So after randomly voting and scum reading Nibel without giving any reasons, lind decides to iso him and can't find a reason he would have been scum reading him in the first place and starts to reel it back

Does Gad just AtE, claim and AFK as scum? And the same with Nibel here. He hasn't posted once this day phase. Could genuinely be busy, but if he's scum I assume he'd at least try to put in a post or something for his team.

@Chairman Nibel @Gadministraitor

Tries to sneak in a town lean on nibel for being inactive

I'll be honest - Doesn't make sense to get Nibel's claim here if we've decided on lynching Gad. I highly doubt they're both scum aligned here and decide to just AFK the thread and put their team in the dumps.

I also looked at their interaction EoD last day phase and it didn't look like they were aligned. Gad was adding more pressure on Nibel alongside Gram at the end there. Don't think he gains anything by putting his teammate in that position.

doesn't want us to wait for nibel to claim, giving bizarre reasoning about gad/nibel not being scum together. I don't get it.

Have you made your mind up on lynching gad?

Strange pov considering you seem to be sussing Nibel and have been for a while

No that post was basically me saying that lynching Gad isn't the optimal route imo. It's a binary situation here between Gad and Nibel. Either they are both town or one of them is scum. Since I town read Gad more than Nibel here, for me it would be:

• Gad - Town
• Nibel - Scum

And I'd rather lynch Nibel.

What do you think of Rugrat Poyser? Did you read my case on him?

I don't see how that's what he was saying at all, nor have I gotten the sense he has any interest in voting nibel given his last few posts on him have been town reading him. again lind randomly acts like nibel is someone he is suspicious of even though his posts don't support that at all.

Frankly, I’m coming along to the idea that both Gad and Nibel could be town.

lmao bruh

You think they’re scum acting the way they did EoD phase 1 and how they acted now?

They legit AFK the thread whole day and then pop in with Nibel trying to mega bus Gad and Gad drunk posting? The team seems like it’s complete shambles if this is the case.

Okay, for point 1:
- Playing AtE and Ghosting the thread while on the verge of being lynched is counterintuitive to surviving. In fact, that’s the best way to get lynched.

Point 2:
- Nibel suspecting Ratchet is different to him suspecting others who thought he was weird for his play around Ekko. Nibel explicitly suspects Ratchet / Flower because Ratchet projected Nibel’s approach to Melkor differently from what actually happened.

Point 3:
- This is complete Hypotheses. If you’re implying that Gram was killed to save Nibel from pressure, then it also makes sense to say that Gram was killed to add more suspicion to Nibel’s slot. There’s no proof other than tinfoil for both.

okay a lot of defending nibel here

Meh, terrible top 2 wagons from my perspective.

Vote lynch Nibel

??? again with a random nibel vote that is totally out of place with the rest of his posts. and here he's taking the lynch to a 3-way tie at 4 votes. what's weird is he calls the reloaded wagon terrible but he was critical of reloaded's claim. bachi (rip) pointed out the same thing later

Why is nobody interested in Rugrat here? There’s resistance there I believe. In fact, wouldn’t even mind Yoho here. Hasn’t done jack and contributed less than the top 3.

Can we CFD anyone else other than those 3 at this point? Rugrat or Yoho?

doesn't actually want to lynch nibel btw

Lind`s progression on Reloaded: d1 he town read him based on R`s ``how are you” opening, null read him d2 when Reloaded got some heat, and then he said that Reloaded is a terrible wagon now in eod time. He refused to elaborate on why he is a terrible wagon tho.
Hans town reading Reloaded at random, d1 and d2 don't sit well with me either.

basically the same way he played around nibel lol

Bachi, come on, lol. I literally gave my reasons for why Reloaded seemed bad from how his claim works.

Literally there next to my vote post.

so he DOES think reloaded looks bad? why was it a "terrible wagon" then? fr