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Magic said:
He did the same last game where he declared me as for sure town and said he'd just sheep me. Not out of his character if he strongly believes someone is town. Aka not alignment indicative.
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Not really a fan of sheeping. Wouldn't that be easier to replicate as scum as well?

Could you also read my case on Rugrat and give your opinion.

Gadministraitor said:
3. You're attaching generic scum/town plays to me and trying to make it sound sane. I ran no risks nor did I play that differently until you kept going at me and now others are voting me because they just want to give you your push? This defeats the purpose of me playing. I'm not jus a pawn for y'all to push or defend to suit your ego. And people voting me to just give you your push took away any value I thought I had as a player. I'm essentially a pawn, and no matter how much effort I put in, no matter how much I point out flaws, points are taken into consideration if they come from certain players.

I'm done playing like that. I tried, but I'm not doing this anymore, again. I don't even care if you get your lynch. I'm checked out. No player should be made to feel like this.
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Is this AtE common for Gad as scum? Generally not a fan of AtEs since they muddy my reads, but even still, I'm sorry if you really feel this way.
 
1. Nibel - Scum
2. Magic - Town
3. Lord Melkor - Town lean
5. Tweet - Town
6. Tempest - Town lean
8. Gad - Town lean
9. Aurelian - Town lean
11. Poyser - Scum lean
12. Mr. Reloaded - Null
13. Fuji - Town lean
14. Yoho - Null
15. Flower - Null
16. Bachi - Town lean
17. RDK - Null
18. Rugrat - Scum
 
Sorry, put Flower in the town lean. My mistake.
Lindltaylor said:
1. Nibel - Scum
2. Magic - Town
3. Lord Melkor - Town lean
5. Tweet - Town
6. Tempest - Town lean
8. Gad - Town lean
9. Aurelian - Town lean
11. Poyser - Scum lean
12. Mr. Reloaded - Null
13. Fuji - Town lean
14. Yoho - Null
15. Flower - Null
16. Bachi - Town lean
17. RDK - Null
18. Rugrat - Scum
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Lindltaylor said:
Is this AtE common for Gad as scum? Generally not a fan of AtEs since they muddy my reads, but even still, I'm sorry if you really feel this way
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Nah, I usually check out and stop caring. Bu this is the second game in a row with the same shit, and I was told I was at fault last time even though I tried pointing out why I thought that read was shit and got ignored then too.

So here I am explaining why I'm done with this game before I yeet.
 
Gadministraitor said:
Cba tbh. You're the one better at finding old shit and all that.

Even if you agree with me here, that's Flower, Melkor, and Fang going along with it. So yeah, it feels like if I'm hit with something I disagree with, my angle is never considered and any discussion just feels like a formality since the votes on me aren't really changing, even tho they came from that particular read angle.
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I know. I already looked. Hence why I said you didn't omgus vote him and instead voted Orca. You called him an idiot and thought he was town then moved on as best you could.

You keep talking about being a pawn as if I'm listened to often or not pressed for a lynch often. I was a lynch candidate last game with info in my favour. You're not alone in this. It's just part of the game. As is claiming. Claiming isn't losing, but again it's part of playing as a team. You shouldn't withhold your claim out of pettiness and hold everyone else hostage with it.
 
Magic said:
I know. I already looked. Hence why I said you didn't omgus vote him and instead voted Orca. You called him an idiot and thought he was town then moved on as best you could.

You keep talking about being a pawn as if I'm listened to often or not pressed for a lynch often. I was a lynch candidate last game with info in my favour. You're not alone in this. It's just part of the game. As is claiming. Claiming isn't losing, but again it's part of playing as a team. You shouldn't withhold your claim out of pettiness and hold everyone else hostage with it.
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I thought he was scum right until I was in scum chat last game tf?

And say what you will, but this isn't about people listening to me. But I disagree with the idea that y'all can make a dumb push based on the cfd angle, ignore me asking how that would indicate any scum play in any game, and then demand a claim like I'm just supposed to listen and do as I'm told. It's not an equal playing field. No, I don't mean you personally when I say y'all.

I refuse to play to that claim demand on principle. I get people are gonna hate me for it but hey, I'mma do what I feel like now.
 
Alright I glanced over it now. I could come up with ideas for why he's playing the way he is especially around Magic but I'm not about to provide excuses for him. Sooooo I suppose I can lend my vote for this

vote lynch Rugrat
 
Gadministraitor said:
I thought he was scum right until I was in scum chat last game tf?

And say what you will, but this isn't about people listening to me. But I disagree with the idea that y'all can make a dumb push based on the cfd angle, ignore me asking how that would indicate any scum play in any game, and then demand a claim like I'm just supposed to listen and do as I'm told. It's not an equal playing field. No, I don't mean you personally when I say y'all.

I refuse to play to that claim demand on principle. I get people are gonna hate me for it but hey, I'mma do what I feel like now.
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When the fuck does anyone think it's fair to claim? Everyone 'demands' for a claim because it's literally apart of the damn game. No one ever agrees with why they're being pushed. You ain't a victim, don't act like one.
 
Reading through Nibel's ISO here:
Chairman Nibel said:
I don't know where Bachi is talking like a robot. I might need an explanation on this case because it's pointless yet.
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This post and the subsequent one below give me a pause because it's actually something I agreed with at that stage as well:
Chairman Nibel said:
So you had to wait Tweet to come to go for Bachi, right? The-talking-like-a-robot was deciding in your choice to vote against him.

I really don't like how opportunistic you're playing.

Vote Lynch Melkor
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I did find Melkor opportunistic on Bachi, and didn't really see the robotic talk angle on Bachi either.

His subsequent post to Ratchet:
Chairman Nibel said:
For real? Did you read anything about me? I voted before Gram.
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And then his scum reads of Ratchet and Melkor do track with his posts through the day. He did vote before Gram and still kept his scum read on Melkor.

The caveat I can see is his reads list below:
Chairman Nibel said:
I would like to clarify something, because I feel like I was not clear earlier.

About Ekko :
People said that what I said about Ekko was not making sense. Yeah, it was not making really sense. I was myself confused in what I said after rereading. But I still on the idea that I highly doubt Ekko would do the "I'm not reading" shitty stuff as a scum. It's probably a challenge of him for himself or maybe he's just dumb. Sure, this only counts if we assume he's not lying about his statement. I won't totally exclude Ekko's case, but I will consider him as a neutral third party for the moment.

About Melkor and Ratchet :
I've been on Melkor early and I still think he's suspect. His playstyle at the start of the game still looks awful, very opportunistic. I have doubts on Ratchet too after he totally invented a point on me which is not accurate to the reality of what I said. I'm considering it as shading on my slot. Coming in a moment where Melkor had a wagon on him. This just looks like he took his defense for me. That's why I will keep my vote against Melkor. I'm expecting him to turn scum which would go in the sense of my theory about Ratchet defending him.

Another point I would like to talk about Gram :
Grammaton seemed a bit lost at a certain point of the game. I have the impression he was not sure of the direction he was willing to take. It looks like indie behavior. This is just a theory so far.
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He still has Ekko's slot as either indie or town and says even Gram can be either indie or town, but it's a theory. Magic told me early on that Ultra would likely not put indies in his games, and Gad also quoted Nibel with the same after this post.

If Nibel has experience in Ultra's games like the other two (Magic and Gad), then I wouldn't see a reason for him to make the indie spec bar from just being scared to town read them outright.
 
His end of day mishap with the "Reloaded being 100% town" thing can easily be attributed to his lack of fluency in English. I liked Magic trying to clear up that situation as a player's logic essentially stems from their understanding of the situation.
 
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