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All right I think I can safely say Magic and Poyser are town based on their play around the d2 reloaded wagon and claim. Magic questioned the claim a lot and still wanted to lynch reloaded over gad, and poyser changed his vote from reloaded to nibel who showed up around the same time fr
 
Lindltaylor said:
Frankly in that ISO of yours, Nibel disagrees with Tweet’s robotic tone of Bachi’s but votes Melkor for being opportunistic.

And frankly he’s been tunneling Melkor for days. And Melkor had this post
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Distancing potentially, no need to overthink it.
 
Sorry. Posted without completing the post.

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Lord Melkor said:
What does it mean "someone turned me alert".

I do not like this claim. Town already had vote canceler (Gad) and double voter (Bachi). I do not want to fully rely on setup speculation, but three roles affecting votes on town side looks a bit too much to me.
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Tempest said:
All right I think I can safely say Magic and Poyser are town based on their play around the d2 reloaded wagon and claim. Magic questioned the claim a lot and still wanted to lynch reloaded over gad, and poyser changed his vote from reloaded to nibel who showed up around the same time fr
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Surely you can rationalize both of them are well experienced enough and smart enough to blend in and not just go at face value that both are town.
 
Tempest said:
Think we need to start looking outside of Nibel/reloaded today, no cap
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Tempest said:
I feel like lind has been trying to get us to look outside of players like gad/nibel/reloaded and from my current vantage point that seems to have been wise counsel. Could be TMI but I wanna see what he does without the whole thread pulling against him for a while no cap
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Tempest said:
1. Nibel
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

A Poyser scum flip would really help things as that'd put Nibel and Lind firmly in the town column leaving exactly 5 nulls left which means only one of them is going to be town. I feel like magic and tweet are exclusive so that'd check out. need to do some isos fr fr
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Tempest said:
a few alternate realities here where Poyser is town, which basically hinge on Magic's alignment for me

Poyser town, Magic scum:

1. Nibel (the posts he made that made me think he was town could've easily come from magic)
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

Poyser scum, magic scum:
1. Nibel (the posts he made that made me think he was town could've easily come from magic)
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

both cases POE goes to 6 in both which isn't great

Poyser town, Magic town:
1. Nibel
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

nice tight POE of 5. boy it'd be awesome if we could know for sure poyser and magic were both town! fr fr

aight time to do some isos
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Tempest said:
1. Nibel
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

final answer fr
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those giant isoes he did led to this.

he linked lind when he said he didn't walk to go after melkor/nibel/reloaded anymome(2 of 3 scum).

he started day 3 saying let's not go after nibel and reloaded.

he town read reloaded off something entirely weak(aka using his role on him which is both shit and a weak reason to flip his scum read on him).

he said nibel was only scum repeatedly in the scenario where i was scum with him and writing his posts. despite that, once nibel flipped scum he went after lind and not me last phase. why? why wouldn't that then strengthen his push on me if nibel is only scum in the world im scum.

Lastly reloaded gave him the heal which isn't dissimilar to members where he claimed to hide behind gf melkor in Members. He then used it to flip his read on him which is, again, silly.

vote craig

so yes, this.
 
Lindltaylor said:
I looked at the ISO, Tempest was onto Reloaded from the start, and their interactions were something I found really hard to view as bussing.

His day 2 was basically Reloaded or Gad, and when I town read Reloaded for his claim alone, he wouldn’t have had any reason to diminish the value as a scum mate.

With this and the fact that he received the heal… honestly it could just be that Reloaded did it for town cred. As hard as it is to believe it because the harder part here is coming to terms with the interaction and seeing it as bussing.
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nope, denying all of this. if you iso his posts you should come away with there was never any reason for him to move off reloaded and yet he did for something as weak as him sending him a heal. the role never made any sense and this was acknowledged by basically everyone but him.

cp is also not against bussing and in the end didn't buss him as he just pivoted to a town read after gad flipped town.
 
Lindltaylor said:
Town:
Poyser
Magic
Tempest
Flower
Fuji
Fang
Yoho

The remaining two has to be Tweet and Melkor. I’m really finding it hard to remove anyone else from the town list.
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nibel voted melkor all of day 1 and then onto day 2.

i find that much harder to reconcile as bussing when he refused to ever budge off gad or melkor to go onto reloaded than the interactions between craig and reloaded.
 
Yoho said:
For the people who had Reloaded has town did his scum flip increase or decrease suspicions on anyone else for you
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increase to tempest who went from a scum read on him to wanting anyone but him the last two phases.

he also wanted to lynch lind last phase over him and was criticizing others for going after reloaded.

so ya, just want tempest. this isn't town craig/tempest. man isn't this shit. literally his entire read list that i quoted from day 3 was wrong(polar opposite of what i got from poyser to read him town).
 
Aurelian said:
Surely you can rationalize both of them are well experienced enough and smart enough to blend in and not just go at face value that both are town.
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this is getting close to last game's level of shit.

town got back to back mislynches on day 1 and 2. day 2 was largely because you wouldn't budge onto reloaded mind you when repeatedly asked and would only vote gad or melkor. both of us wanted reloaded at eod.
 
Magic said:
nope, denying all of this. if you iso his posts you should come away with there was never any reason for him to move off reloaded and yet he did for something as weak as him sending him a heal. the role never made any sense and this was acknowledged by basically everyone but him.

cp is also not against bussing and in the end didn't buss him as he just pivoted to a town read after gad flipped town.
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So who do you think is allied with Tempest here Magic?
 
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