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Yeah I mean are you leaning towards one over the other at all?

Not sure, Tweet is not putting any effort to defending himself. He also looks bad mechanically, I do not buy 3 town roles having vote affecting powers.

Should we do mass claim at this stage?
 
Are you confident about Aurelian being town @Poyser?
I’d say fairly confident. He was part of the contingent that was actively telling me to change off cp to nibel. Ofc I’m giving credit for that but if cp is scum then it doesn’t mean a whole lot. If cp is town I’d say fang is

But then there’s also just other stuff like the way he insisted on pushing Rugrat after he claimed vig, the way he’s tunnelled you all game even to the point where he was happy to let people believe he had info just to get you to claim. All of that stuff gets filed under the “I have zero clue what’s going through his head if he’s scum” section
 
Im ISOing him as a whole here and looking round, but I did notice this bit of play around nibel:

no evolution of thoughts whatsoever after a long spell out of the game and a nothing prod at gram. Weak. Fr fr
Gram picking up on the same thing, interesDEAN given he was killed. Did I pretend not to know this until this point in the read back so I could frame nibel? Seems unlikely, no cap

He calls Nibel out and scum reads him, then points out that Gram saw the same thing and got killed (which is pretty much what I'd said earlier) so you'd think he wanted to go there, but he does this

Hmm. This feels really bold for scum. NGL low key reconsidering my scum read on this slot now

Based on Nibel asking for a no lynch lol
 
From memory I actually thought he went reloaded after that but he didnt, he went for gad instead

vote gad

Let's get a claim here. High key reading magic town and think we should follow him. Have largely not liked gads play with only a couple of exceptions, no cap
 
1. Nibel
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
8. Gad

9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Flower
16. Bachi
17. RDK
18. Rugrat


Blue is town lean, dark blue is solid town read
Orange is scum lean, red would be solid scum read

no cap whatsoever

He still has nibel as scum here so not really sure what is going on lol
 
I dont really want to just present a big quote wall, but his D2 (up to where I am anyway) on reloaded is fairly strong as he does start the wagon to "get a claim" and then he does offer him up as an alternative to Gad. The only problem here is he never tries to town read Gad or anything, in fact he keeps reiterating that Gad also looks bad and he goes out of his way to make sure Nibel isnt an option

@Poyser did you answer this about nibel? I see you went back to voting him earlier

I'd rather lynch gad than spend more time on Nibel who I don't believe would be scum with gad. Low key I think I caught gad out when he tried to play the "I had to lynch lethal it was him or me" card shortly after he self voted lol, just a huge contradiction in his mode of thinking that doesn't jive. Then theres the refusal to claim for 12+ hours followed by easily claiming when he shows up next. It's like we get a different gad every time he pops in.

So like... Yes he is pushing for Reloaded but he's also not trying to dissuade people from voting Gad at all. And the big problem comes as Magic said... He goes from reloaded being his main scum read and the person he wants to lynch, to then on D3 (after a gad town flip) being like I think we should look outside of nibel/reloaded and it doesnt make much sense to get from one to another

He basically explained it by saying we've mislynched twice so we are on the wrong path (he sussed me for not changing my scum reads despite us mislynching twice) but I dont think that really stacks up lol
 
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