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[T-Pein™]

And I think you're *maybe* town for reading him as town for almost nothing

I think the opposite...
Flower jus buddying with everyone so far.

 

[Ultra]

Did I give a read on lethal? I said he doesn’t make that joke as scum unprompted because jokes can turn sour quick, and he would rather not take any chances. He literally plays for like 5 minutes a day as scum, makes one or two posts at like 4am, says no one is around and then disappears. It wouldn’t take much for a teammate to drop into their chat and give some advice around that.

if he had someone who knows him well playing with him in a scum chat, say me or poyser, I dare say poyser would tell him to stop being a pussy cause he could subvert his scum meta by doing so - I know I would.

There’s nothing in this that’s even arguable

For me I think this is the part I can't get over and why I'm voting him, we have a long and drawn out discussion where he clearly lays out strong predictions for Lethal's behavior, but does not commit to a read, and uses it in his own defense. Remember at this point, Lethal has pattern matched the exact behavior Gram is describing (and still arguably has).

In general, if you've spent this much time thinking of a player, you have an opinion. That he doesn't is strange, even if the paper trail for his reasoning sorta checks out

 

[T-Pein™]

I'm frozen in complete and utter fear.

Are you actually Light Ultra kun?

 

[Ultra]

I think the opposite...
Flower jus buddying with everyone so far.

I'm pretty good at reading Flower. You are correct that she buddies a lot, but she also gives out free town reads as town. Hard to tell the difference.

IMO as scum she likes to ride on wagons a lot more

 

[Ultra]

Actually Flower has shown 0 direction in scum reads so far, which I don't like.

 

[T-Pein™]

Entrance.

Agrees with me.

Questions Lethal.

Fair assumption.

Okay.

Talks about Lethal.

Fair question.

Also a good question.

Also a fair take.

I don‘t see him doing this now.

Hmmmm.

Fair.

Good response.

I agree.



If he‘s scum and Dragon Town, he would certainly be a threat.











Agreed. Dragon is fairly tame so far.

Lethal again.



Yeah.











Generally mostly defends Lethal, but also observes the thread and replies to other things he notices. I have no idea how he plays as scum, but I don‘t see the benefits for his hard defense towards Lethal. I can‘t even see him doing this in an attempt to pocket Lethal because the latter is quite frankly lynch bait. And as team mates it would be better for him to just bus Lethal here.

GTH I think Gramma is Town who believes he has a correct read. And I saw him do that kind of thing in Breaking Bad as well.

yeh he has just been talking about lethal so far.
idk how that is Scum indicative. (reading back knowing yall trying to lynch gramma rn)
All the WS love that guy and cannot stop defending him no matter what.

 

[T-Pein™]

IMO as scum she likes to ride on wagons a lot more

Flower not into the gramma wagon.
isolated him.

 

[T-Pein™]

Vote: poyser

This is so scummy, do I even need to elaborate?

Why the hell would I be paranoid for lurking? I can already see you soft pushing a lynch on me. For what? Because I don’t like you asking people to claim so you’re gonna make a big deal about me lurking on my phone?
Busy atm, I’ll give more reads tonight.

This I can get behind.

Vote: poyser

 

[Emil]

vote Ekkologix

most pro-town post of the game imo, put me in the confirmed column boys

*consider this post a reaction to the vote*

 

[T-Pein™]

That said I’d say gram’s reaction probably leans more to good than bad. I like getting people talking about lethal because to me he’s fairly easy to read but to others he is such an easy mislynch target. Last game pretty much everybody that tried to stop me from clearing him so easily was non town (Doddsy, Evans, PHEN0M). I use alco as a town example who pretty much went “that’s a bit generous” and just moved on lol

Gram hasn’t leaned into me possibly sussing him, he’s gone the other direction and tried to not clear him but lean townie. As he said there’s not much gain in trying to TMI a clear on lethal as it just takes away an easy lynch, so the only way I’d really expect him to wanna do that is if he did it to make me look bad, which he hasn’t really tried to do either.

so whilst it’s early and I’m certainly not gonna clear him off this because he’s deffo capable of just making convincing posts as scum, my early gut read on the situation is that he’s probably only scum if lethal is

Literally everyone from WS including scum wanted to keep him around.
And yes those names you listed never voted for him either.
They knew keeping such a scummy player as noise was good for them.
I assume it it will happen again.
Also you was a harmful indie not town...kek

 

[Emil]

Sounds more like a spite vote and less of a joke to me tbh. I think he‘s a little pissed at Dest lol.

shudnt he be as pissed or more pissed at me, seeing as how I started the wagon that ultimately lead to his death last game lol

 

[T-Pein™]

“Let me just OMGUS here right quick but don’t ask me for any other reads cos im busy and definitely not lurking!”

Psychic was not going full OMGUS.
gave a reason to their vote.
You are obviously trying to set up who you see as "the weakest link" for a lynch.

 

[Emil]

do I think he expressly meant it that way? No

do I think it could be taken that way? Probably not but not impossible. It’s certainly not going to endear him to dragon in all likelihood, which he’d have known going in

it probably gna come down to how much does lethal stick to that vote or if he will just change it

 

[T-Pein™]

I don't want Flower to isolate me.

 

[The X]

Re: Psychic - I dunno, feels almost too easy lol? But yeah, the obvious conclusion would be a kind of deer in the headlights reaction taking place

I’m happy with voting either Psychic or Dragon at this stage, will prob vote tomorrow

For the record Dragons posts aren’t necessarily bad, they’re just not what I expect from town him - I get the feeling he should be chomping at the bit to set the record straight after Elden Ring, but instead he feels flatter than a plate of piss

This is a thought process I have trouble understanding. Gram says Psychic seems too easy but still feels happy to vote their. Even says my slot isn't that bad but I should be more aggressive based on a conclusion he's come to in his head over assumptions of me.

well let’s be real, you got basically everything wrong and mechanically botched the endgame - I’m working from a competitive mindset - when you put so much time and effort into the game, it’s a fair assumption for me to make.

if I can make that assumption then it would make sense to me that you’d be hungry to do better this time no?

is your position here that I shouldn’t be trying to understand players mindsets and motivations? Or just that I shouldn’t do it to you?

do I somehow give the impression of being married to that idea?

I felt like this was a bit of an over explanation trying to get me to see why he might be assuming I should have a certain emotion or reaction. Just feels off to me. The last sentence in the second first post and the last post here are also examples of a tone that Gram has taken with me that feels unwarranted. Tries to make it seem like I'm a special case and shouldn't be held to the same standards as others. Also puts words in my mouth here as all I said was that him voting me or Psychic would be easy, nothing more. But also he said he was happy voting either of us, so not sure why he's so defensive here about voting them.

 

[Emil]

you’re not factoring in lethals extreme cowardice and aversion to conflict as scum here

this meme needs to die. lethal is not as coward as u guys think as scum. ppl need to stop underestimating his play every game

 

[The X]

I am E

I am X.

 

[T-Pein™]

I’m happy with voting either Psychic or Dragon at this stage, will prob vote tomorrow

first scummy post from Gramma so far.
what the...

 

[T-Pein™]

Gramma just trying to jump on the terrible wagon that Poyser set up.

:zilla4:

 

[Doddsy]

What's the game plan with this vote, I mean are you pushing for his death?