Game Death Note Mafia

[Evans]

yesterday you said you were reading and catching up on the thread, yet about 4x you asked me for my thoughts on lethal despite me already giving them lots of times. now you're doing the same with the case on you. it really seems like you're struggling for something to talk about

Providing you evidence of your own statements about Lethals tendencies as scum, when he’s literally doing those things is not struggling for something to talk about.

You said he’s within scum range, I put your own words down in the table and asked you your thoughts and why you’re not pushing him when by your own words, he’s acting like his scum self

 

[Poyser]

Well here's the thing if I you assume I believe I'm something sincerely then you also have to assume that I'd be careful in elaborating about it.

I missed this, but I dont really just blindly believe somebody thinks they know more than the class when they're never willing to explain it.

 

[Grammaton]

Easy, I think you're scum and I think lethal is town. I was also fine flipping BPD or tpein but they didn't have the numbers

were you not making the case lethal is probably scum based on no killing activity?

 

[Poyser]

Providing you evidence of your own statements about Lethals tendencies as scum, when he’s literally doing those things is not struggling for something to talk about.

You said he’s within scum range, I put your own words down in the table and asked you your thoughts and why you’re not pushing him when by your own words, he’s acting like his scum self

I disagree with the assertion, obviously. I've explained that already too

 

[Evans]

Easy, I think you're scum and I think lethal is town. I was also fine flipping BPD or tpein but they didn't have the numbers

Can you show me exactly where I’ve gained such a strong scum read to blind flip me tho?

It feels like too strong of a read to have based off my play from my POV

 

[Evans]

I disagree with the assertion, obviously. I've explained that already too

Yes, I’m aware you disagree. I wouldn’t have known unless I asked though, would I?

 

[Evans]

First snap reaction says they've given up a free kill on Lethal and idk why they would lol so he's probably just scum?

Do you still think this is possible? Or is he town? Or is he just in range of every fucking alignment?

 

[Grammaton]

Can you show me exactly where I’ve gained such a strong scum read to blind flip me tho?

It feels like too strong of a read to have based off my play from my POV

I don’t think this is sound - all scum would have to do in your eyes is never claim and they shouldn’t be lynched?

 

[Poyser]

were you not making the case lethal is probably scum based on no killing activity?

Well he's talking about yesterday for one, but I was just thinking out loud really because I didnt get why else they wouldnt just kill him. But clearly there's too much to speculate so as you said there's no real point in speculating on it and going with my actual read seems like the best course of action

Especially when I dont really understand what this game is gonna be

 

[Flower]

Reads:

Gramma: Looks Town. The way he defended Lethal reminds me of what he did with Cal in Breaking Bad. Granted Cal was scum, but I don‘t see what a scum Gramma would gain from sticking out his neck for Lethal who, if scum would be better off bussed or as Town is lynch bait.
Poyser: While his not noticing the slip triggered me, what he did afterwards looked Townie. He also made a post in which he correctly analyzed my thought process which makes me feel a lot better about him.
Lethal: I don‘t think Aiber is a fake claim and he was probably left alone because scum either can‘t kill other Townies aside from the lynchpins or they just didn‘t kill at night. His reaction towards almost being hammered also looked Townie. Can‘t exclude the possibility of AtE, still, so this is a weaker lean.
Craig: I remember liking some posts of his and him voting me thinking I enabled him (?) kinda makes sense for a Townie to do, even though I didn‘t do it, but guess it can be taken this way.
Psychic: Her reason for unvoting me just now looked Town. I also think I get what she means.

Ultra: He‘s probably Town, but some parts of his gameplay don‘t add up for me. I also think his so-called case on me is utter horse s***, so I really expect him to get his game together.
Big Man: His reason for testing Lethal looks Town, but it‘s not sth a scum can‘t say. He was great in Elden Ring, so I hope he actually does sth here and helps us solve.
Ekko: Not much I can say about him, but I didn‘t like him implying I could be a lynchpin and voting me right after. When I already had a good number of votes.
T-Pein: He could just be lazy Town, but it‘s still possible he slipped. Though I actually didn‘t mind one post of his in which he suggested we go for Lethal and not for anyone else during EoD because Lethal was a safe vote. Unless he‘s scum with Evans, this kinda makes me pause and think he could just be lazy Town.
Evans: I think Poyser brought up some points that he‘s on his scum meta? Would like to see somebody who knows him elaborating on this.
Doddsy: The guy has no conviction and seems to go where the wind blows.
Dragon: Really want more from him.

 

[Evans]

I don’t think this is sound - all scum would have to do in your eyes is never claim and they shouldn’t be lynched?

Based on a day 1, with no mislynches, no claim. I think it’s sound.

 

[Grammaton]

Wasn’t I an Indy in breaking bad lol?
In fact didn’t I have to rep out of that one early?

 

[Ultra]

Have you seen Tiara as scum before? How would you describe her scum game?

I linked a scum game there's also her death note scum game which I probably should have also brought up but it's a year and a half old. But you'll see she doesn't really have a volume tell or the like, and that she shares a propensity towards town reading people as either alignment.

First she is a very good scum solver. She does not miss a thing when it comes to sniffing out claims, or hints.

Secondly she tries to clear herself by any means necessary.

Implications:

As far as what she looks like, I distinctly remember the lack of process on her "scum reads" because that's what I was subjected to. Once she has an angle she'll make variations of the same point and subject you to the "you're just scum" tunnel. Usually it takes the disapproval of other players to do this. I think she might be doing something similar with T Pein right now if you can for a moment assume he's town.

I think the big thing she tends to get picked out for, historically, are gabs involving claiming too early or saying something really weird though. Bulletproof L (by the time I was onto her about this one it was too late), outing other scum teams in multiball and revealing too much info, etc. In a recent game as a cult leader she couldn't help but speculate over and over on who was the cult leader character.

 

[Flower]

Wasn’t I an Indy in breaking bad lol?
In fact didn’t I have to rep out of that one early?

You were pro Town, so for me this is Town.

 

[Poyser]

Can you show me exactly where I’ve gained such a strong scum read to blind flip me tho?

It feels like too strong of a read to have based off my play from my POV

I've literally never cared about blind lynching somebody I think is scum lol. Plus it was middle of the day for us, so not really any reason you couldnt have come online and claimed if you were close to hammer (and you did come online). But also, scum who is about to be lynched is just gonna claim lynchpin anyway so its kinda irrelevant whether we get your claim or not

 

[Ultra]

I just struggle to see her as scum here. There's no type of plan or agenda that I can follow. If she's scum then she's really fucking bad at it and she strikes me as too reasonable a person to be completely illogical as scum such as having me and pein her top 2 scum reads, dancing around lethal, what i just showed with evans etc

I think she is bad at the specific element of scum casing other players as scum but that's not really her main strength anyway.

 

[Flower]

@Ultra read list is above^.

 

[Evans]

I've literally never cared about blind lynching somebody I think is scum lol. Plus it was middle of the day for us, so not really any reason you couldnt have come online and claimed if you were close to hammer (and you did come online). But also, scum who is about to be lynched is just gonna claim lynchpin anyway so its kinda irrelevant whether we get your claim or not

Doesnt answer my question

 

[Poyser]

I linked a scum game there's also her death note scum game which I probably should have also brought up but it's a year and a half old. But you'll see she doesn't really have a volume tell or the like, and that she shares a propensity towards town reading people as either alignment.

First she is a very good scum solver. She does not miss a thing when it comes to sniffing out claims, or hints.

Secondly she tries to clear herself by any means necessary.

Implications:

As far as what she looks like, I distinctly remember the lack of process on her "scum reads" because that's what I was subjected to. Once she has an angle she'll make variations of the same point and subject you to the "you're just scum" tunnel. Usually it takes the disapproval of other players to do this. I think she might be doing something similar with T Pein right now if you can for a moment assume he's town.

I think the big thing she tends to get picked out for, historically, are gabs involving claiming too early or saying something really weird though. Bulletproof L (by the time I was onto her about this one it was too late), outing other scum teams in multiball and revealing too much info, etc. In a recent game as a cult leader she couldn't help but speculate over and over on who was the cult leader character.

See in terms of this stuff, I dont really think I see much of this in what shes doing this game other than the trying to clear herself which she did do. I dont really see her tpein thing being a tunnel, and just earlier today she even admitted it might not be a slip and she doesnt have him as her top scum read any more.

I was more interested in how sloppy her pushes are though, so you think her pushes as scum are sloppy? Like if you look at her thinking lethal is town but voting, and the way she tried to justify me and pein being her top scum reads despite being at each other all day, then she 180d on me and read me town because I defended her. Voting evans despite nobody explaining the case to her. Does she do sloppy shit like that as scum?

Think she also mentioned she bussed the fuck out of her teammate in the last death note game?

 

[Grammaton]

When you say you want more from dragon, what exactly do you mean?

he consistently wants me dead, what are you expecting?