You missed the real stuff too
@seth Of course he can? How is this a question? Räum's spell used the magical energy he had access to to curtail other people. Like pretty much all other forms of esoteric effects in the Nasuverse, it's something that's only good until you're facing someone with a lot more raw power than you have.
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"If Nasuverse Mechanics work like this, then DBH Mechanics also work like this"
It has to take another person to point out just because for example, enough Magical Energy(which is something a decently strong Servant can do) can literally warp the space around them, doesn't mean other characters in different series can do it too because it's a VS. battle.
It's funny as hell because you can actually point out how many times that happens in the Nasuverse as a whole that sheer Magical Energy can do some DBZ shit and beyond if you look for it.
For example:
But yeah, it's a really dumb argument that Siriel is using when you can just say Trunks DBH wins because of course he does. I have no idea why they somehow take this the wrong way:
Even for SB, this is just truly sloppy work.