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T-Pein™

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What makes you so certain?

If someone has a role that can resurrect or revive a player in the night action, I'm pretty certain the host would have a write-up after the night phase concludes. But what your saying sounds more like a day phase thing.

@RDK assuming successful actions happen during the day, there would be a write-up, or no?

this is such a sus post...
what the.
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Eh I don’t mind tweets posts about BPD talking to flower because I made very similar points at the time too.
I don’t hate the point about him saying he had no conviction behind his BPD vote after most of us switched him to town tho. That’s a decent observation
feel the same about ultra's case, didn't mind any of the flower stuff but not totally buying the switch on BPD
 

Ultra

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Question here is do we waste a day phase on an SK that is potentially lynchproof (tho unlikely) or do we just let mafia/vigs deal with them?

I’m probably leaning towards the latter

Woof woof!

(If we keep him alive, it's only after we have made an explicit contract with him telling him exactly what to do following a full claim on his end, and even then, that's just a possible consideration. Don't be sloppy about this)
 

T-Pein™

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Btw scum "Role Tracked" Me last night so they have my whole role.
IDK why they would choose me.
kinda cringe...
 

Hans Tweetenberg

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Woof Woof!

(I caught up and have some thoughts I'd like to share. Tweet made some posts that bothered me for a couple of reasons:)































Here's my main gripe, Tweet calls X's analysis of Flower "Superfluous" and votes him for it...but that criticism doesn't mesh with that action. You cannot say Flower is so obvious she requires no elaboration and then advocate for not lynching Flower.

Worse, when the thread consensus wraps around to town X later in the day, he admits there was nothing behind this vote. He also thinks it's ok for X to vote Fang in this situation.

In combination with his statement "It's only a matter of time" makes it sound like Tweet is acknowledging Flower's demise as an inevitable conclusion, but he is not making himself participant. Which is a problem, because their claim and continued presence in the game is of obvious benefit to mafia, as One points out. As town there is strong demand to vote there, even if it is a forgone conclusion, doesn't seem like Tweet understands that.

Tweet is also largely a passenger in the discussion surrounding Flower's claim. If I'm a wolf, and I see a D1 *Dual Survivor* claim, I have to pretend I'm distressed, but I'm totally going to be kicking up my feet. Free passage into Day 2/3 for me and the boys. They could be lying, they could not be, but at this stage their utility is already known to me, because I have TMI, and I can resume directing my attention elsewhere. I'm not going to chew over it much, I can add some superficial comments to the discussion about them but my motive is to move on and set up more shade. This is exactly what Tweet did.

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Bottom line: Tweet does not chew over the Indi claim very much, is over it so easily that he chastises X for his thought process...but is not showing an elementary part of a thought process that he should for how bored he is. States one thing, does another, shows little skin in the game. So, to me, this falls more in line with TMI.)
The thing you fail to realize is that saying that somebodys lynch is a foregone conclusion doesn't mean that that lynch therefore has to take place immediately and no other discussion is to take place that day. We knew one of the two indy claims was gonna get offed some 8 hours into the phase, but there's no need to rush it through especially on d1.

Though if I knew most of d1 was gonna be an endless back and forth of what I believe to be two townies I woulda ended it asap.
 

T-Pein™

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actually, let's do this

vote aurelian

down.

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Vote Lynch aurelian
 

Poyser

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Woof woof!

(Go look at his early posts. When everyone is grilling Flower over her claim, he's kinda just there. Also, he makes some bizarre post about how he believes Flower's thoughts on you, after her claim, which immediately doesn't strike me as obvious what he means by that.

Now I can believe that he can do this as town, or reach the conclusion of what to do here faster than other players did. What I don't believe is that he misses the basic understanding that we shouldn't *not* lynch Flower in doing so. So I think it's TMI, a town reaching this point doesn't handwaive a Flower lynch as "only a matter of time" like she's self resolving, she needs to go and he was not seeing to that)
But what’s the TMI supposed to be? That she’s not mafia? Because I thought it was very obvious she was not mafia and the only person that it wasn’t obvious to was seemingly BPD lol. I don’t think TMI was required there at all

I take your point about not being bothered to lynch her, but at the end of the day mafia wouldn’t know whether or not she was lying about being survivor so they’d have almost the same amount of info as us at that point
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
Woof woof!

(Go look at his early posts. When everyone is grilling Flower over her claim, he's kinda just there. Also, he makes some bizarre post about how he believes Flower's thoughts on you, after her claim, which immediately doesn't strike me as obvious what he means by that.

Now I can believe that he can do this as town, or reach the conclusion of what to do here faster than other players did. What I don't believe is that he misses the basic understanding that we shouldn't *not* lynch Flower in doing so. So I think it's TMI, a town reaching this point doesn't handwaive a Flower lynch as "only a matter of time" like she's self resolving, she needs to go and he was not seeing to that)
What I meant by it at the time is that her thoughts looked genuine to me so I was going to lean town, but that was while catching up. They'd already been outed by that time but I hadn't noticed.
 

T-Pein™

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But what’s the TMI supposed to be? That she’s not mafia? Because I thought it was very obvious she was not mafia and the only person that it wasn’t obvious to was seemingly BPD lol. I don’t think TMI was required there at all

I take your point about not being bothered to lynch her, but at the end of the day mafia wouldn’t know whether or not she was lying about being survivor so they’d have almost the same amount of info as us at that point

I did not know she wasn't mafia.
And she technically was a mini mafia lowkey.
 

Tempest

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The thing you fail to realize is that saying that somebodys lynch is a foregone conclusion doesn't mean that that lynch therefore has to take place immediately and no other discussion is to take place that day. We knew one of the two indy claims was gonna get offed some 8 hours into the phase, but there's no need to rush it through especially on d1.

Though if I knew most of d1 was gonna be an endless back and forth of what I believe to be two townies I woulda ended it asap.
can you explain why you were sus of BPD and why you changed your mind
 
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