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Game Unranked Archived Fairy Tail Mafia - The Dawn of Fiore [Main Game Thread] (Game Ended - Zeref Dragneel and Acnologia have won the game)

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Ratchet

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Roleblocked Xaldin
So here is my issue. Night 1 I investigated you, and received that you were Sting (I get alignment, and if I win a GMG the previous phase I get the role). I also took another action that I know landed on my target, so I can rule out being redirected completely.

Obviously, Aurelian flipped Sting. This means that you were busdriven Night 1 with a townie. Now I'll give some time for a townie to claim this, because it's not impossible that town swapped you two around, but I think it leans towards being less likely given both the choice of targets, and that neither you nor Aurelian were responsible for the busdrive.
 

Kobe

Paramount
Sure - but you don't have any reason to prove this now either, which is exactly my point. My flip will tell you kills failed on me, it's not information that you absolutely need to proceed with the game, and it certainly isn't information that needs to be proven today.
I don't need more reasons than referring to your posts, which does not make sense to me. You came forward with this BP claim after N1, conveniently shielding yourself. Then, you are doubling down on the claim with another "I was shot" narrative when there are 3 other kills in N2. What am I supposed to make out of this? As the one who was fed with this information, I think resolving your spot *anyhow* makes sense, don't you think? You don't seem to be all that powerful either judging by the lack of other action claims on your behalf.

Remind you again that you were the one who came forward with possible red scum names, suggesting that the killer is one among them. That looks TMI to me, than anything else.
 

Ratchet

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So here is my issue. Night 1 I investigated you, and received that you were Sting (I get alignment, and if I win a GMG the previous phase I get the role). I also took another action that I know landed on my target, so I can rule out being redirected completely.

Obviously, Aurelian flipped Sting. This means that you were busdriven Night 1 with a townie. Now I'll give some time for a townie to claim this, because it's not impossible that town swapped you two around, but I think it leans towards being less likely given both the choice of targets, and that neither you nor Aurelian were responsible for the busdrive.
The reason I know when I'm shot is that I lose several aspects of my role when I do so - it's because I'm very very hard to kill. It comes back after a cycle, but I couldn't investigate anyone N2, and I won't be able to N3 either.
 

Dr_Professor83

Professional Troll
So here is my issue. Night 1 I investigated you, and received that you were Sting (I get alignment, and if I win a GMG the previous phase I get the role). I also took another action that I know landed on my target, so I can rule out being redirected completely.

Obviously, Aurelian flipped Sting. This means that you were busdriven Night 1 with a townie. Now I'll give some time for a townie to claim this, because it's not impossible that town swapped you two around, but I think it leans towards being less likely given both the choice of targets, and that neither you nor Aurelian were responsible for the busdrive.
Well. I had nothing to do with it.

I feel like my voting/pushes should clear me of both mafias.
 

TSworder

Majin
The reason I know when I'm shot is that I lose several aspects of my role when I do so - it's because I'm very very hard to kill. It comes back after a cycle, but I couldn't investigate anyone N2, and I won't be able to N3 either.
Can you win with town?
 

Ratchet

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I don't need more reasons than referring to your posts, which does not make sense to me. You came forward with this BP claim after N1, conveniently shielding yourself. Then, you are doubling down on the claim with another "I was shot" narrative when there are 3 other kills in N2. What am I supposed to make out of this? As the one who was fed with this information, I think resolving your spot *anyhow* makes sense, don't you think? You don't seem to be all that powerful either judging by the lack of other action claims on your behalf.

Remind you again that you were the one who came forward with possible red scum names, suggesting that the killer is one among them. That looks TMI to me, than anything else.
So your argument is you need to lynch me today because I claimed, under no pressure, that I wasn't shot? It's not a very good argument. TMI is invoked lazily here - only certain roles should have been able to land a kill on me N1, those I listed. You've yet to establish basic aspects of this, such as motive, and your reasoning to suggest I must be resolved today isn't very well thought through.
 

Kobe

Paramount
So your argument is you need to lynch me today because I claimed, under no pressure, that I wasn't shot? It's not a very good argument. TMI is invoked lazily here - only certain roles should have been able to land a kill on me N1, those I listed. You've yet to establish basic aspects of this, such as motive, and your reasoning to suggest I must be resolved today isn't very well thought through.
You said that you would resolve your spot in D3, and yet you haven't. All I hear is "I was shot, I'm innocent", yet there is no proof of that being the case. You claim to be BP passive, but you have no active actions? No 1-shot? You should be SS at the very least based on your performance in the magic games. You don't seem honest by this defense on yourself.
 

Ratchet

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I read it. I don’t support lynching Ratchet lol
I'm more interested in the possibility of him being scum here. I'm not concerned about being lynched, as I don't think it's at all a position that's supportable here, but I want to check myself on the motivation behind it. Does knowing whether I survived a kill or not matter so much today as to base the lynch around it? I don't think so.
 

Ratchet

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You said that you would resolve your spot in D3, and yet you haven't. All I hear is "I was shot, I'm innocent", yet there is no proof of that being the case. You claim to be BP passive, but you have no active actions? No 1-shot? You should be SS at the very least based on your performance in the magic games. You don't seem honest by this defense on yourself.
I haven't because I was shot again. If you've read this page, you will know I have more than one active, I'll let you catch up first.
 
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