Ranked Baki Mafia

[Frinckles]

So I don't know why you're asking Nibel to reconsider his read on me when you literally say you don't know how to feel about me and want somebody else to push me.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

 

[Magic]

vote sky

im not against the frinckles wagon or anything but i feel like there's a lot of pressure there and almost no defense and if he has a team i think there would be at least some push back or an alternative wagon. bachi could be the alternative wagon but tweet is the one mostly pushing that and i dont think tweet is scum. sky is also pushing that and it could be a distance between the two as tweet mentioned earlier but overall bachi appears rather antagonistic. i still havent had the time to cross compare to the previous game but i dont want to keep refraining from voting.

although i do want clarification on their read on me and what a soul read is.

im not huge on jinri's resulting reads from the read back and honestly dont really see retro as town right now either but ive never seen her scum game. overall she appears lacking.

 

[Magic]

It's mostly vibes, I did explain my town read on you tho

Also vibing gram town now as well

what gives you that vibe on gram

 

[Magic]

Yes. I can't remember the last time I saw an afk wolf.

there's one in almost every game i play.

he's afk due to real life obligations, not just ducking, it wouldn't be alignment indicative regardless.

 

[Frinckles]

@Magic soul-read is just a way of saying you're extremely confident they're town.

As far as my read on you, I'm townleaning you lately. Still think the early game was silly but you were right about focusing too much on entrance interactions.

 

[Frinckles]

I guess you could soul-read somebody as scum but I haven't really seen it used that way.

 

[Grammaton]

What are you talking about Tweet, I made a big impact by voting her yes, but I didnt pushed her

vote sky

im not against the frinckles wagon or anything but i feel like there's a lot of pressure there and almost no defense and if he has a team i think there would be at least some push back or an alternative wagon. bachi could be the alternative wagon but tweet is the one mostly pushing that and i dont think tweet is scum. sky is also pushing that and it could be a distance between the two as tweet mentioned earlier but overall bachi appears rather antagonistic. i still havent had the time to cross compare to the previous game but i dont want to keep refraining from voting.

although i do want clarification on their read on me and what a soul read is.

im not huge on jinri's resulting reads from the read back and honestly dont really see retro as town right now either but ive never seen her scum game. overall she appears lacking.

Erm, when do you see scum teams scrambling in response to … how many votes does frink have?

I very much dislike this post ftr

 

[jinri]

All you said was: "Frinkles: Not sure how I feel about them. Lots of post but relatively small amount of content from them. I wouldn't mind someone poking them a bit."

I'm not even sure I'd call that a scumread. Like, nothing between me or anyone else is sufficient enough?

Don't think of it as so much of a reads list and more of a "I'm not okay with getting rid of this player D1" list. There's not much to make any useful reads on.

I just feel you've made a lot of posts, and most of them seem fluffy, so I think some votes are you on good. It's not more complicated than that.

So I don't know why you're asking Nibel to reconsider his read on me when you literally say you don't know how to feel about me and want somebody else to push me.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

I didn't ask them to reconsider. I asked for their thoughts on you and why, and they asked my thoughts.

 

[Dr. Watson]

this seems a bit of a desperate vote.
considering i didnt even realize i was signed up for this game - and i was asleep.
not very town apporach pushing inactive

er yeah, I’m relatively sure juice is scum

Vote chouchou

fuck it il open wolf.

I'm Snorlax Baki
Most Evil Death Row Convicts Aligned

My power is that I steal power for mafia from the person that hammers me.

VOTE: CHOUCHOU

@Ultra this is why you don't sign people up - that haven't confirmed to actually upgrade from sub. thanks for the game.

I concur with the Chou lynch. Worst case scenario, they're not invested in the game and we won't miss much

Vote Chouchou

Vote Lynch Chouchou

It is what it is

im actually a vanilla townie called Hinary. but meh. this is a waste of my time. the negative vibe isn't my jam

My motto is "if it's too easy to be true, it probably isn't"

I don't imagine any mafia team on the site in general would allow this without consulting their mate

So some things I'll consider:
1. Chou flips town under the guide of thinking it helps town 'solve' a slot (all it will do once she flips is give scum the advantage to suspect people who weren't fully convinced it was just scum play the next day. It's a miscalculation but highly plausible.)
2. Chou flips indie (if we assume she's doing this because she simply truly isn't interested in playing, although she absolutely could've simply asked for someone to sub out in that case)
3. Chou flips scum (the least likely scenario imho - if this even happens, it would imply that scum is comfortable with their numbers and she masterminded it to throw everyone's reads off. This case is only possible if her wagon remains.)
4. Chou is scum and the team and her are confident enough to pull something like this off so early to cement her as town (only if she isn't genuine about her level of interest over the game, which is rather difficult to tell right off the bat.)

She's kind of 50/50 where she has the ability to make very logical calculations and then make improper ones that don't have a lot of substance behind them because she just... doesn't care, she's just done.

No idea what to do with this slot because of that, but am fine with voting her - just want to put on my solving hat first

[Unvote]

Unvote
Vote Juice

She's done it again, she's successfully baited me into voting her :

ChouChou has been modkilled. Her flip will be posted at end of day​

Well that's a relief

Unvote
Vote Bachi

Vote Count 2, Day 1

Aurelian - Craig > Xenos > Chouchou > Sky
Magic - Nibel > Craig
Retro - Nibel
Gram - Aurelian > ChouChou (invalid)
Frinckles - Bachi
Sky - Bachi > ChouChou > Bachi
Craig - Bachi > Sky > Frinckles
Xenos - Aurelian
Hayumi - Gram
Tweet - Bachi
Bachi - ChouChou > Sky
Gad - ChouChou (Invalid)

Bachi - 3
Sky - 2
Gram - 1
Aurelian - 1
Frinckles - 1
Nibel - 1
Craig - 1

With 16 players, it takes 9 to lynch​

Alright, so here's what occured in terms of votes

Gram, Gad, Orwellian immediately hop on it, Sky being more hesitant to just slam her hand on the button

Gram and Sky's votes are NAI as there's more history and reasoning behind it being the primary reason for this enthusiastism behind Chouchou being lynched here which makes it harder to decipher from the game play itself
Won't discount the possibility of scum simply getting a free lynch in here, and if there is, two scenarios might come into play:
Scenario 1: Gram is opportunistic scum and the only that that can be read from the interaction is it's just, well, stupidly fucking easy
Scenario 2: Sky is the scum in this scenario, but she's more hesitant to throw a vote on Chou because it would make it harder to ignore accountability toward a potential mislynch

I can't easily pick this stuff apart because there's history there that clearly does impact the game regardless of alignment and they're both fairly infuriated, so if one of them is scum, it'll just be a LHF scenario with some spice added to it with some earnest reactions thrown into the mix

I don't sense any opportunism from Gram and Sky in particular

As for the less personal votes:
Orwellian didn't really give much input on Chou's slot, feels like he's half assing this

Gad doesn't give a satisfactory response but there is less direct antagonism featured in his approach to voting Chou here, it *reads* townie and the approach he has can be explained by less familiarity with people here as he's explained
Easy copout, as he atleast would have enough knowledge to understand these scenarios aren't something to jump on unless given a reason

These are my 2cs ATM - once Chou flips I'm gonna be going back and seeing what I got wrong

 

[Frinckles]

..

I just feel you've made a lot of posts, and most of them seem fluffy, so I think some votes are you on good. It's not more complicated than that.



I didn't ask them to reconsider. I asked for their thoughts on you and why, and they asked my thoughts.

They were asking if you had anything that could change their opinion.

I guess my next questions would be: if you don't have any read on me besides lack of content, why are you voting me instead of your other null reads? Also, why did you want somebody else to start a wagon on me first?

 

[Dr. Watson]

Back to work
I can't really outline my thoughts better

My back is cramping lmfao

 

[Grammaton]

Alright, so here's what occured in terms of votes

Gram, Gad, Orwellian immediately hop on it, Sky being more hesitant to just slam her hand on the button

Gram and Sky's votes are NAI as there's more history and reasoning behind it being the primary reason for this enthusiastism behind Chouchou being lynched here which makes it harder to decipher from the game play itself
Won't discount the possibility of scum simply getting a free lynch in here, and if there is, two scenarios might come into play:
Scenario 1: Gram is opportunistic scum and the only that that can be read from the interaction is it's just, well, stupidly fucking easy
Scenario 2: Sky is the scum in this scenario, but she's more hesitant to throw a vote on Chou because it would make it harder to ignore accountability toward a potential mislynch

I can't easily pick this stuff apart because there's history there that clearly does impact the game regardless of alignment and they're both fairly infuriated, so if one of them is scum, it'll just be a LHF scenario with some spice added to it with some earnest reactions thrown into the mix

I don't sense any opportunism from Gram and Sky in particular

As for the less personal votes:
Orwellian didn't really give much input on Chou's slot, feels like he's half assing this

Gad doesn't give a satisfactory response but there is less direct antagonism featured in his approach to voting Chou here, it *reads* townie and the approach he has can be explained by less familiarity with people here as he's explained
Easy copout, as he atleast would have enough knowledge to understand these scenarios aren't something to jump on unless given a reason

These are my 2cs ATM - once Chou flips I'm gonna be going back and seeing what I got wrong

Er what

There was no hopping from me - I vote her, and THEN she spazzes out, not the other way around

 

[Tempest]

vote sky

im not against the frinckles wagon or anything but i feel like there's a lot of pressure there and almost no defense and if he has a team i think there would be at least some push back or an alternative wagon. bachi could be the alternative wagon but tweet is the one mostly pushing that and i dont think tweet is scum. sky is also pushing that and it could be a distance between the two as tweet mentioned earlier but overall bachi appears rather antagonistic. i still havent had the time to cross compare to the previous game but i dont want to keep refraining from voting.

although i do want clarification on their read on me and what a soul read is.

im not huge on jinri's resulting reads from the read back and honestly dont really see retro as town right now either but ive never seen her scum game. overall she appears lacking.

Maybe sky is the alternative wagon

 

[Magic]

Erm, when do you see scum teams scrambling in response to … how many votes does frink have?

I very much dislike this post ftr

it isn't scrambling, it's the lack of opposition. no one is defending frinckles at all. given that he's the leading poster that generally doesn't happen.

 

[jinri]

..
They were asking if you had anything that could change their opinion.

Right: they asked me my thoughts. You said, "you're asking Nibel to reconsider his read on me." What you said didn't happen. You're framing it as if I'm trying to get them to vote for you when we're really just talking about our thoughts about you

I guess my next questions would be: if you don't have any read on me besides lack of content, why are you voting me instead of your other null reads? Also, why did you want somebody else to start a wagon on me first?

You're less null than the others? I openly said that you have a lot of fluff and would be okay with someone poking you. That sounds less null than most other nulls.

Poking didn't necessarily mean voting. Could've been investigating or anything. I was more considering Bachi vs Sky at the time, but I don't see anything wrong with voting for you right now

 

[Grammaton]

it isn't scrambling, it's the lack of opposition. no one is defending frinckles at all. given that he's the leading poster that generally doesn't happen.

There are people who have town reads on him tho - are you expecting them to just watch him sink without a trace?

 

[Grammaton]

Like, you asked me to push another direction, which you apparently don’t disagree with but then directly oppose it anyway?

 

[Tempest]

what gives you that vibe on gram

His thoughts around bachi are similar to mine and thought he came off well in the exchange with frinckles who seems sus to me. Can reevaluate if frinck is town

Only thing giving me a little caution is gram hasnt come off super bothered this game as he has early on in every other town game he's played on here and we've certainly had our share of nonsense thus far. Maybe that's worth thinking more about actually lol

 

[Magic]

Like, you asked me to push another direction, which you apparently don’t disagree with but then directly oppose it anyway?

i didnt ask you to push another direction?

having multiple wagons is good on day 1 so to see where people land and it helps with flips later on(if anyone ever looks back). i dont care if it makes me look bad, there's benefits of it overall as people then have to decide one way or another rather than just not at all.

 

[Magic]

There are people who have town reads on him tho - are you expecting them to just watch him sink without a trace?

i think only nibel has town read him from what i can see and im not even sure they're voting anywhere.

@Nibel pick a wagon.