Ranked Baki Mafia

[Bachi]

The thread is legit too afk for any play

 

[Lethal]

20 pages behind already. Shows me for not checking the site each day.

 

[Gaddamnit]

You trying to basically do something that condemns you trying to buy brownie points because "scum would never do that".

This sentence gave me a migraine sorry lol wut?

I echo the sentiment that Aurelian seemed to be very nonchalant about the vote

Tbf, that's what I'd expect from, well, everyone at that point. Just the way Juice did things was bizarre at that point

Why is Frinckles at 6 wtf

This? I've skimmed the thread but I don't think I've seen anyone provide anything reasonable to explain why they're going for Freckles, not in the past 6-7 pages anyways. Something about this feels artificial, if that makes sense.

No idea.
Never played with him before, don't have any experience of past games to read them. Some of their posts seem innocuous and honest at first glance but others do trip up some warning flags.

Is there a particular post that comes to mind? Asking cause I have freckles strongly town leaning. They're pushing, and I've not seen them ever fly low to avoid attention. To me, that feels like a town move

Fucking yikes

Okay yeah, I had the same feeling. At this point, and I'm still not confident enough to say this, but I'm very comfortable voting Nibel.

Man this is gonna be an interesting show when other people chime in

Sorry, nothing to do with the game. I just kept reading your title as doormat administrator all this time for some reason. Gave me the giggles.

Nibel isn't a bad option either for the reasons tweet brought up earlier. Like that post from xenos.

I agree with the sentiment but curious about what reasons you're talking about. And what Xenos post?

why the nibel votes?

Tbf, they tried to sneak onto a wagon.

No idea how his behaviour during the build up of the wagon got no attention.

Which wagon are you talking about? Freckles or...???

I'm going to bed too. Day likely ends in a mislynch.

If I die please look into sky/Craig combination. Aurelian/xenos/frincles should never be lynched(least sure on frincles). Hans/gad/hayumi/bachi/gram I also think are townie pretty sure in that order. Nibel/jenri are good places to review as well.

I just realized I have nothing on Jenri. Nothing. Not town, not scum, not NA. Not sure I like that.

Jinri is a total no show in this second half of the game, Craig is ok I think

Well, that explains the above I guess

20 pages behind already. Shows me for not checking the site each day.

Brooo

Anyways

Vote Nibel

 

[Aurelian]

I very much do not agree with the town reads Aurelian has received, and I think it’s worth noting that since he got them, when he’s been around he’s basically stuck to the same hymn sheet. I don’t see any progression in his thoughts or response to new information

'stuck to the same hymn sheet'

Exactly what new information have I ignored?

 

[Gaddamnit]

Is there a particular post that comes to mind?

To be clear, I'm asking about which posts gave you red flags, Aurelian.

 

[Aurelian]

To be clear, I'm asking about which posts gave you red flags, Aurelian.

The latter dozen or so.

I think they started strong and their suspicions around Sky and Bachi were well formed and didn't look bad enaging Magic as well. Not a fan though of his change of perspective later with Sky. However when his wagon materialized he seemed to give up entirely after it gained strong momentum, even offering to let himself be easily hammered without trying to fight it at that point. From that it's in my eyes a 50/50 coin flip of a scum player giving up or a townie resolved they can't survive.

 

[Grammaton]

'stuck to the same hymn sheet'

Exactly what new information have I ignored?

like, the thread

use your eyes etc

 

[Aurelian]

like, the thread

use your eyes etc

Give a specific example

 

[Aurelian]

To be clear, I'm asking about which posts gave you red flags, Aurelian.

Also what are your thoughts about Tweet, Craig, and Hayumi + Jinrei?

 

[Grammaton]

I'm reading you paranoid as fuck

every single post toward or about you of what you perceive to be criticsism of your reactions = "shush scumboi" is... well, yeah, fucking defensive.

And it's just weird, point blank.

I'm fairly sure you're hard tunneling that's either going to 1) prove you correct, further cementing your other reads 2) prove you incorrect, further cementing your other reads

And frankly there's no winning in this game with you like this, because any type of reaction that even slightly colors you as suspect in someone else's eyes is going to be seen as scum. Scummity scum scum scum.
What do you expect me to do here when I see all of this unfolding?

I don't feel you're scum (atleast for now), but again, your defensiveness is fucking weird. Flat out. You're defensive in general, but not as aggressively defensive that any and all discussion halts.

Here's the only tother thing that's truly pinged me that you and I know I normally wouldn't bother with, but alas

You can't open in a game with, "I'm not scared."
Do you understand regardless of whether this is some 4D bait or whatever the fuck, Town is going to look at shit like this and go "...but why"? Because sometimes Town isn't on the 4D Koolaid, yeah?

You can't open in a game with "but you were scum in this game and did XYZ!!!" and refused to admit or acknowledge the possibility that your read on them on this basis is silly?

You're deathtunneling anyone who is even remotely in line with Xenos' view of you/someone who's got or shared similar sentiments.
That's literally all this is.

And not you're going to bite back with "no you and your mom defensive and wrong, and though I may not say it, you agreeing even just slightly withvsomeone else I have pegged as a scum read is AUTOSCUM"

@Aurelian Like I think this is a pretty good summary of what Im getting across - youre playing with a very self centred worldview and I would wager youre looking upon anyone townreading you favourably, and scumreading you unfavourably, but I dont really see anything to suggest that youre really trying to understand why that might be the case. Sadly, I cant prove a negative in the way you want me to. I expect nothing other than passive aggression in response, so if thats all youre going to do, save yourself the trouble

 

[Chairman Nibel]

This sentence gave me a migraine sorry lol wut?


Tbf, that's what I'd expect from, well, everyone at that point. Just the way Juice did things was bizarre at that point

This? I've skimmed the thread but I don't think I've seen anyone provide anything reasonable to explain why they're going for Freckles, not in the past 6-7 pages anyways. Something about this feels artificial, if that makes sense.

Is there a particular post that comes to mind? Asking cause I have freckles strongly town leaning. They're pushing, and I've not seen them ever fly low to avoid attention. To me, that feels like a town move

Okay yeah, I had the same feeling. At this point, and I'm still not confident enough to say this, but I'm very comfortable voting Nibel.

Sorry, nothing to do with the game. I just kept reading your title as doormat administrator all this time for some reason. Gave me the giggles.

I agree with the sentiment but curious about what reasons you're talking about. And what Xenos post?

Tbf, they tried to sneak onto a wagon.


Which wagon are you talking about? Freckles or...???

I just realized I have nothing on Jenri. Nothing. Not town, not scum, not NA. Not sure I like that.

Well, that explains the above I guess

Brooo

Anyways

Vote Nibel

Another taking the occasion to sneak in the wagon. I already explained my view, but people think I'm sheeping Sky for whatever reason.

 

[Aurelian]

@Aurelian Like I think this is a pretty good summary of what Im getting across - youre playing with a very self centred worldview and I would wager youre looking upon anyone townreading you favourably, and scumreading you unfavourably, but I dont really see anything to suggest that youre really trying to understand why that might be the case. Sadly, I cant prove a negative in the way you want me to. I expect nothing other than passive aggression in response, so if thats all youre going to do, save yourself the trouble

Your basically saying I'm playing to survive instead of solve and more interested in how I appear to others? That's the gist of it right? I mean that would be a fair narrative if that's all I've done in the game. But I've chased my targets, made my stance on Sky, Craig, and Xenos fairly clear and chased them to that end. I don't think what your suggesting is entirely true from an objective perspective either.

 

[Aurelian]

Also kind of stumped that @Grammaton that you would use an accusation from Retro, a player you already underscored in a more recent post of yours as having "rapidly deteriorated" credibility in your eyes to press your perspective on me. Reeks of bad faith.

 

[Dr. Watson]

@Retrolize i appreciate you don’t feel great, however your position in my eyes is rapidly deteriorating. We need you to play mafia, not act as a glorified secretary

We went over this, the vote tracking isn't for you guys - it's a nice addition for you all, yes

 

[Dr. Watson]

Gram, what's your case on Bachi?
Aka has it developed further or is it the same as it was

 

[Dr. Watson]

My timer says we've got like less than 20 minutes left, is that correct?

 

[Aurelian]

If Bachi ends up lynched and flipping town then I'm locking in Sky, Craig, and Gramm as my primary POE.

 

[Aurelian]

And in the event I'm killed in the night phase, my legacy reads:

Town:
Magic

Soft town:
Tweet
Bachi
Freckles

Null:
Retro
Nibel
Xenos
Jinrei
Hayumi
Lethal

Scum lean:
Gramm
Craig
Sky

 

[Aurelian]

Gad to town with Magic as well

 

[xenos5]

G’Morning.

My timer says we've got like less than 20 minutes left, is that correct?

I think we’ve got around 26 minutes left in this phase. Since I believe it started at 9AM two days ago.