• We are currently rolling out incremental alterations to the forum. Don't freak! You aren't going crazy.

Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Status
Not open for further replies.

A_emoji_laugh.gif

There's nothing more hilarious than believing Sukuna can just "dodge the Atomic Breath" when we know that's utter horseshit :diolaugh
 

Astaro

Resplendent
V.I.P. Member
Is this Shin Godzilla as in the really fucked up one directed by Hideaki Anno? Saw that movie and it’s honestly one of the most grounded and weakest portrayals of the monster.

It really wasn’t all that impressive and it’s Atomic Breath is horribly telegraphed, even beginning as a gout of fire before Godzilla can force out enough radioactive energy to make it into a beam



It also doesn’t have any notable speed or durability feats in the movie worth taking about, especially since the movie goes out of the way to emphasize this version of Godzilla is essentially bloated, profusely bleeding, and cancerous walking corpse of an animal whose body is mutating and becoming increasingly unstable as a result of its radiation
 

Cryso Agori

V.I.P. Member
Is this Shin Godzilla as in the really fucked up one directed by Hideaki Anno? Saw that movie and it’s honestly one of the most grounded and weakest portrayals of the monster.

It really wasn’t all that impressive and it’s Atomic Breath is horribly telegraphed, even beginning as a gout of fire before Godzilla can force out enough radioactive energy to make it into a beam



It also doesn’t have any notable speed or durability feats in the movie worth taking about, especially since the movie goes out of the way to emphasize this version of Godzilla is essentially bloated, profusely bleeding, and cancerous walking corpse of an animal whose body is mutating and becoming increasingly unstable as a result of its radiation

That's when he first evolves his atomic breath.

Later there is no charge up, when he goes into a coma he evolves an automatic radar system that allows him to snipe anything moving in his range, even drones.

He can shoot from his spines and tail too and the beam is many times faster than Sukuna himself. You and sb are also ignoring that shin withstood the bombs from the bombers and that Shin can regen and evolve.



In this deleted scene we see a piece of Shin can stay alive, grow and evolve on its own. So if Sukuna somehow managed to get off his domain without getting sniped and it actually cut Shin apart all it would do is mass scatter his cells and allow him to evolve as new creatures.
 
That's when he first evolves his atomic breath.

Later there is no charge up, when he goes into a coma he evolves an automatic radar system that allows him to snipe anything moving in his range, even drones.

He can shoot from his spines and tail too and the beam is many times faster than Sukuna himself. You and sb are also ignoring that shin withstood the bombs from the bombers and that Shin can regen and evolve.



In this deleted scene we see a piece of Shin can stay alive, grow and evolve on its own. So if Sukuna somehow managed to get off his domain without getting sniped and it actually cut Shin apart all it would do is mass scatter his cells and allow him to evolve as new creatures.


This is also ignoring that Shin Godzilla took an entire Artillery Barrage from Helicopters and Tanks when it first evolved into Godzilla and took no damage at all(it didn't even feel them) and it took HEAVY Bunker Busters to even do that level of damage to Godzilla to begin with(And it didn't even severely injure it, it just pissed it off).

I don't see how Sukuna is supposed to damage it in any way but this is SB who tends to wank the piss out of shit even though simple eyeballing and watching the movie can prove it wrong.
 

Paxton

One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds
V.I.P. Member
They mention Gabriel being able to stop a slash from Carissa but the thing with that is what Gabriel stopped was just an inferior laser sword made from shards of one of the Curtana Second replicas, not the entire sword itself which is what’s stated to cut down even Aiwass
Also, like.. how is WW3 Gabriel stopping it even an anti-feat (if it were true)? :tupac
 

R S's attempt to shit on the Grim Comet in the final episode of Yashahime is fucking adorable as his attempt to try and "explain" what the Manga went with it's interpretation of the Grim Comet:



8b30a0c507b974a33dacd7ba00d6f6c8.png


Honestly? I would take this as canon far more than I would take ANYTHING from Overlord by leaps and bounds and if we are going with the fact that The Grim Comet is literally Amaterasu's shedded malevolence given form, HOO FUCKING BOY, the doors that opens(And it honestly makes so much more sense that's what The Grim Comet is rather than just some random Comet with Demons on it) for Inuyasha by proxy.

EDIT: It's also funny that not only does Rumiko(or the person who is writing Yashahime) not only did something that Nasu did with Amaterasu... but something I also want to do similarly with Amaterasu :jordangif
 


HAHAHAHAHAH!!! R S caught lying in fucking 4K!
Goddamn, so what he was trying to downplay... was the core of the actual Grim Comet that was whittled down... from this?!
:heston

In any other forum, this would get you completely laughed off of it and no one taking your ass seriously, even in Reddit and VSB of all places. Really speaks volumes for just how bad this shit is...

And R S's response gets worse and worse


This is why I have no respect for Overlord fans, not even gonna dignify his shit here outside of just mocking his terrible ass attempts at lying with the blatantly fucking obvious in sight.
 

The statement about one gem being enough to blow away a house is from Rin herself, Shirou has nothing to do with it.
Link to citation

Again that doesn't mean anything when we later on have her wielding the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch and despite having to channel enough magical energy(Even if it's coming from her alternate selves, that energy would still have to come into Rin one way or the other) to perform shit on the level of Excalibur, it's not destroying her at all and it's just tearing up her muscles(Which she still powers through because Mages are built different). It's funny how they never want to take Nasu statements at their word unless it's a way to downplay it because you later have Medea compliment Rin's Magecraft while she's canonically dealing with them easily meaning it's way more than "Can destroy a house".

So, your basic assumption is that Rin is off about capabilities of by her gems by many orders of magnitude.
Moreover, the story tells us several times, how are her gems powerful, with the statements being pretty consistent.
One gem is enough to blow away a house.
Three of them are enough to destroy a mansion .
Three jewels with fourth used for synergy are enough to destroy a church.

Yeah, just ignore the fact that all of those vary in Magical Energy put into them and the fact that they are ultimately inefficient usage of Magical Energy vs. any used in a Noble Phantasm which makes comparing them in that fashion utterly moot(Also ignore that again Japanese Mansions would be just as huge as any American Mansion making this an even stupidier comparison but that's SB at it's core).

Does it? I always see this repeated as a fact, but I'm not sure if that's the case.
If Archer's Magic Resistance blocked the spatial freeze, he wouldn't be affected at all. Even D rank magic resistance doesn't dampen the spells, but completely blocks them instead. But, he got immobilized.

Except he actually broke free on his own in the VN:

Here, EMIYA kicks Shirou away in time for Medea to catch him in a time stop spell. Here, EMIYA breaks free from Medea's time stop spell with his powers (presumably, he flexed his magical energy as his magic resistance is only D ranked).

And even the Anime had him actually beginning to move and talk during it which makes it even more ridiculous to bring that up.

It can't be K&B either, because he threw them at caster before he got frozen and they don't return to him until after he broke out. (And the MR boost is only applied when both are "equipped".) Moreover, Caster spams high level magic that can one shot Archer like candy, but for some reason the spell she uses to immobilize him is weak enough that he can completely nullify it just with his magic resistance?
Last but not least, Shirou thinks he used his powers to break the spatial freeze. Which would be consistent with there being delay between Archer getting frozen and freeing himself.

I like how he's trying to act as if this is an inconsistency... when it's well known like with Medusa's Cybele and other Noble Phantasms, you CAN flex Magical Energy to break out of them too because and I will repeat myself:
Enough Magical Energy can fuck with physics, fuck with magical spells and even fuck with concepts like space and time.

Edit: Apparently, I was wrong here. I just found scene where Caster freezes Saber in same manner, and Saber frees herself after a moment using her magic resistance. This raises some further questions about mechanics of magic resistance, but it just flat out makes basic premise of theory wrong.

Saber arbitrarily lowered her Magical Resistance, this is explicitly shown in UBW...
 

Paxton

One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds
V.I.P. Member
SB is genuinely retarded

all those quotes, unless I'm somehow misinterpreting things, never actually say the limit of Rin's jewels is "house busting"

only that they CAN do that

and even if that were what the quotes were saying, that's so blatantly horse shit that I'm surprised they're even humoring that as an argument
 
SB is genuinely retarded

all those quotes, unless I'm somehow misinterpreting things, never actually say the limit of Rin's jewels is "house busting"

only that they CAN do that

and even if that were what the quotes were saying, that's so blatantly horse shit that I'm surprised they're even humoring that as an argument

Like I said before, they are looking at the statement only to downplay but don't actually even try and to READ THE STATEMENT.

The 2nd Scene of the very thing they are using to downplay one of Rin's Jewels:
6NuY7Xj.png


"Can blow away a House without a trace", I wonder if they realize how ridiculous that is considering Tornados and Hurricanes exist...

A tornado is a violently rotating column of air that is in contact with both the surface of the Earth and a cumulonimbus cloud or, in rare cases, the base of a cumulus cloud. It is often referred to as a twister, whirlwind or cyclone,[1] although the word cyclone is used in meteorology to name a weather system with a low-pressure area in the center around which, from an observer looking down toward the surface of the Earth, winds blow counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern.[2] Tornadoes come in many shapes and sizes, and they are often (but not always) visible in the form of a condensation funnel originating from the base of a cumulonimbus cloud, with a cloud of rotating debris and dust beneath it. Most tornadoes have wind speeds less than 180 kilometers per hour (110 miles per hour), are about 80 meters (250 feet) across, and travel several kilometers (a few miles) before dissipating. The most extreme tornadoes can attain wind speeds of more than 480 kilometers per hour (300 mph), are more than 3 kilometers (2 mi) in diameter, and stay on the ground for more than 100 km (62 mi).[3][4][5]

And even an F-5 Tornado can't easily tear a house apart "without a trace" but again that requires having some actual thought.

Secondly:
xMsM56X.png


As you stated yourself, "blowing away a mansion" can mean many, many things but again, they think that Mansion is just the basic bitch Mansion and not say the actual mansions you see rich people live in that is fucking huge(It's funny because they also miss that Shirou's house is a Japanese Mansion and it's actually pretty big for it's size).
They also don't count, you know, destroying the FOUNDATION of either the House or the Mansion either which would also require even more power than just "destroying the house or mansion" alone.

And finally:
rgQUt92.png


This is literally the deep basement of the Church and would destroy the Temple underneath it and the Church itself including the Foundation and the underground portion of it too... which Medea casually stops and absorbs/destroys...

Hilariously, this would actually be on par with Medea's Concentrated Rain of Light in destruction but again, no imagination whatsoever.
 

Paxton

One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds
V.I.P. Member
At least FTL (Accelerator's wings incease his stats much greater than before by a high margin. Including speed), likely Immeasurable (Briefly kept up with an avatarless Aiwass) | Immeasurable (Unfathombly superior to his previous forms in all stats)

:mjpls
 

Crimson Dragoon

Exceptional
Super starscream is at least star level, how strong is Benenash?
 
Grail mud scaling really does invalidate a lot of Servant vs JJK threads lol

You’d have to limit a ridiculous amount of sources to make it halfway debatable

It does and even then, you would still have to bend over backwards to justify why Shirou doesn't solo the setting even in his "weakest" incarnation which is basically before the Routes even begin in earnest, let alone even someone like Hans Andersen or Shakespeare.
 

OtherGalaxy

ยสี่สี่สี่สี่สี่สี่สี่สี่ สี่สี
V.I.P. Member
Grail mud scaling really does invalidate a lot of Servant vs JJK threads lol

You’d have to limit a ridiculous amount of sources to make it halfway debatable

On a that note, @OtherGalaxy reminder that level 1500 Benetnash still loses to Super Starscream even with limiting feats and scaling to only Galaxy Force/TFC itself :tupac
we gotta reevaluate him jumping in front the Primus beam at some point because honestly that might be more ridiculous than the comic tie in boosts :skully
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top