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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Says the guy whose trying to pretend Mustache literally sees every future all at once in the other thread, despite the fact we can blatantly tell that's not the case BECAUSE he is caught off guard several times.

In WorstGen, I have people repeat that same shit despite in the manga, you very clearly see Yhwach taking time to find the right "Future" to hit Ichigo with at one point...
Also they love to forget Yhwach actually tends to laser focus in a certain future at that as well and only switches if there is an obstacle in his way or he got tricked(Like with Orihime blocking him outright with her barrier).
 

Crimson Dragoon

Exceptional
Lmfao no, the firepower of the Disney canon Palpatine is far beyond anything that Frieren could ever hope to comprehend. EU Palpatine would solo anyone in her verse. Both versions of Palps do have the power to take down Frieren.
If we’re talking Legends, a nobody like Brakiss would stomp Frieren, let alone Darth Fucking Sidious
 

Much like Yor Briar (Spy x Family) Frieren isn't that broken or standout of a character, she just stands out because her in character response to a fight starting is to immediately vibe check her opponent. In an extremely lethal manner. Ironically Fern is even better at that, though her comparative lack of hax defences make her a lesser matchup in all other regards.

Point being, this discussion is all ignoring that in character none of these three will respond to a fight as quickly as she will, and I'm pretty doubtful any of them can deal with her opener.

Sauron has nothing. Voldemort is likely to shield if anything, and that won't work. Palpatine will see it coming due to Force reactions but he can't block it and the strongest version of him absolutely does not have the agility to dodge it.

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14 likes for a literal "Nah, I'd win" post... unbelievable. It's funnier when you realize Frieren would be going at the amazing speed of... Mach 1, something every person on this list(past Voldemort) is far faster than and can react far quicker then Frieren about.
 

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This is considered a benchmark for a mage in Frieren. This is a better combat feat than anything the trio have either performed or survived.

...Man, the Frieren wank in SB is fucking shameful, for real...
This is literal Overlord levels of wank and is basically gonna eclipse DS and JJK for real.

Remember that this is literally in the same thread as this:



and this:



This isn't even getting into the most bullshit feats Cal does in Jedi Survivor nor what Disney Legends does with Darth Vader that they are refusing to touch to point out Frieren has no chance(i.e. Cal stopping an "Great Red Spot" tier Storm with The Force).
God, no one looks good on either side.
 

While there is a lot of Frieren over-estimating going on lately

Nah, you think?! This thread is proof of that alone and we can literally dig through the gills for the series Frieren legit defeats vs. what you fuckers wank out of your asses to pretend she has a chance in.

this is one of those cases where she is well within her league.

ONLY against Voldemort.

One of the issues Sauron has is that LoTR is just not built for VS debates as it's written as if it were mythology;

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You can do VS. Debates with Mythological Characters, Death Battle literally did it with Heracles vs. Sun Wukong and many people wanted them to do more including DB themselves... Sauron as well as most of the other LoTR characters is no exception to this.

characters do things whilst drenched in ambiguity and without explanation of how;

Dude, they don't need to explain how they did a feat, if they did a feat, then that's more than enough. Do we need an explanation of how different Elves are than Numenoorians to explain why Legolas can "jump good"?

they're depicted in an imaginative state for the reader to watch in their minds.

You can literally say that about all fiction, how is this supposed to be a rebuttal? :jordangif :kobe

Honestly the Silmarillion is the world's most eloguent lore dump.

Yes it is... that's the point of the Silmarillion's existence... still doesn't stop it from literally having feats be stated in it's pages which means it's fair game for any VS. debate.

Like I know I keep saying it and it honestly amazes me that they really have become this:
Most of these users are from the dumping grounds of the other VS. sites that didn't want these rejects anymore:risigif
 
The movie Eye is still >> by holding Barad-dur and the lands of Mordor in place.

The fuck are we talking about here.

Someone who acted as if they actually read The Silmarillion and watched LoTR which we can easily tell they didn't...
Story in SB's life.


Here's an example of someone showing that "glorious" lack of reading comprehension:

Now the lightnings increased and slew men upon the hills, and in the fields, and in the streets of the city; and a fiery bolt smote the dome of the Temple and shore it asunder, and it was wreathed in flame. But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed; and in that hour men called him a god and did all that he would. When therefore the last portent came they heeded it little. For the land shook under them, and a groaning as of thunder underground was mingled with the roaring of the sea, and smoke issued from the peak of the Meneltarma. But all the more did Ar-Pharazon press on with his armament.

Apparently, Sauron never got hit by the Lightning...

Wrong.
Also, the whole "defying the lightning" thing is useless as a feat.

And that's mainly because it doesn't actually say he got hit by the lightning, merely that he defied it. I could stand on the beach and defy the ocean without even getting wet.
Honestly if he had gotten hit directly with some heavenly lightning directly from Illuvitar I couldn't see him coming out of it entirely unharmed.
Unless of course Illuvitar intentionally made the attack so weak that it wouldn't harm Sauron, which on its own would make it useless as a feat.

despite the sentence literally stating he "defied the lightning"

to confront with assured power of resistance : disregard
: to resist attempts at : withstand
: to challenge to do something considered impossible : dare

 

I find it weird how people assume Infinity can’t tank Blues, Reds & Purples rather than going for the most sensible take which is Limitless users not being invulnerable to their own moves.

It’s consistently shown in-universe that Infinity can tank anything that isn’t hax tailor made to bypass it.
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I legit don't understand how people can continually make up shit about Limitless despite being described at length multiple times and even given weaknesses at that(Jogo and Nanami actually could have potentially dealt with Limitless they way they did... if they was strong enough to matter against Gojo which they wasn't).

When in the hell was it ever stated Red/Blue/Purple can bypass Limitless? Because if that was the case, then Red and Blue should be as much of a danger to Gojo is despite him using them at close range or teleporting with Blue.
It's pretty apparent MShadows is now a JJK Fanboy but this is some massive headcanon here.
 

GaRbS

Illustrious
@GaRbS What's your worstgen pfp from?
It's Scion (Valdoll in Japan), the final boss from the CAPCOM fighting game, Red Earth (Warzard in Japan).
No, there are actually many times Servants can go Lightspeed or even faster(There are quite a few points in F/SN-F/Z-HA era alone where Servants are stated to attack "As fast as light"),
Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.
 
Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.

No they aren't because you haven't proven at all which of them are mistranslations...
It's also funny because I'm certain you got that from the FGO Reddit where a dude was giving incorrect info for 10 years but the only things that was gotten from Beast's Lair... was nothing from F/SN whatsoever(It was primarily Interviews and of that how the other authors).

I'm guessing you are gonna use the Rheingold mistranslation as the major basis for this?

EDIT: Besides that, what "hyperbole"? Like this is why your arguments are shit and why I and others dog you and most of SB for it?
Like you want to basically point out that something isn't consistent is hyperbole but this isn't applied to other series where those same issues are applied at all. You then want to act as if there's "flowery language" despite that also being a common issue with fiction as a whole.
You can't keep using "No You" Arguments with nothing there, just giving a negative is not a basis for an argument, give some actual meat for your negative opinion or the shit is discarded.
 
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I legit don't understand how people can continually make up shit about Limitless despite being described at length multiple times and even given weaknesses at that(Jogo and Nanami actually could have potentially dealt with Limitless they way they did... if they was strong enough to matter against Gojo which they wasn't).

When in the hell was it ever stated Red/Blue/Purple can bypass Limitless? Because if that was the case, then Red and Blue should be as much of a danger to Gojo is despite him using them at close range or teleporting with Blue.
It's pretty apparent MShadows is now a JJK Fanboy but this is some massive headcanon here.
I mainly don't get why that's considered the "most reasonable" assumption when AFAIK it's never been mentioned his own energy bypasses Limitless/Infinity???
 

(thread highlights for those who don't want to read everything)

the real infinity is the circular debate it causes

The real Infinity is people choosing to only pick and choose what they want to see and hear all along...



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I mainly don't get why that's considered the "most reasonable" assumption when AFAIK it's never been mentioned his own energy bypasses Limitless/Infinity???

I have never heard of Gojo's energy being able to bypass Infinity, that was the whole point of why Gojo wasn't surprised or shocked that his 200% Hollow Purple overwhelmed Limitless...
This was something the series was building up to that you can just plain overwhelm Limitless with pure force... it's just funny that force is barely Sub-Town Levels:risigif
 

GaRbS

Illustrious
No they aren't because you haven't proven at all which of them are mistranslations...
Yes, yes I have.
It's also funny because I'm certain you got that from the FGO Reddit where a dude was giving incorrect info for 10 years but the only things that was gotten from Beast's Lair... was nothing from F/SN whatsoever(It was primarily Interviews and of that how the other authors).

I'm guessing you are gonna use the Rheingold mistranslation as the major basis for this?
You assumed wrong.
 

Using DeepL
ABSOLUTE FUCKING KEK!

Dude, you can't be fucking serious? You would have a better job bringing an actual translator worth a shit.

You assumed wrong.

You really did just use DeepL as a basis for an argument... the same DeepL that not even FGO Reddit takes as a first, second or last resort...
Yeah, you really proved me wrong... at making me believe you couldn't dig yourself any deeper than you already have :maury :jordangif :heston:jordangif:risigif
 
For all of the shit I gave to TheWorld for using DeepL and others have never used DeepL for any true legit translations, you unironically use DeepL rather than anything from Beast's Lair? Like atleast with Rayshift.Io, I can understand it due to the potential faults the FGONA Translation does with how they constantly work on translations but come on man...
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You really did go with the equivalent of Google Translate:heston
 
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